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I see justification of a response again without examples. I am not here to say its right or wrong, just not helpful.
You say I am promoting salvation by water baptism.
What I actually did was quote the ministry of John the Baptist.
Luke 3:3
He went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
Luke 3:4
A voice of one calling in the desert, 'Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.
Matt 3:6
Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River.
It is interesting that before Jesus's ministry peoples sins were being forgiven through repentance and baptism.
And it is this baptism we practice today.
Now I am not promoting salvation through baptism, I am raising this part of scripture to explore my own understanding
and how this fits in with ideas about sin, righteousness, and salvation.
This is what forums are for, to discuss the bible and have fellowship with the body of Christ.
God bless you.
You say I am promoting salvation by water baptism.
What I actually did was quote the ministry of John the Baptist.
Luke 3:3
He went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
Luke 3:4
A voice of one calling in the desert, 'Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.
Matt 3:6
Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River.
It is interesting that before Jesus's ministry peoples sins were being forgiven through repentance and baptism.
And it is this baptism we practice today.
Now I am not promoting salvation through baptism, I am raising this part of scripture to explore my own understanding
and how this fits in with ideas about sin, righteousness, and salvation.
This is what forums are for, to discuss the bible and have fellowship with the body of Christ.
God bless you.
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Yet when people ask you it’s like all you do is say acts 2
it’s sort of like the girl last night was asked a direct question. She refused to answer
Of course she is banned because if a serious heresy. Yet the problem is still the same
people are afraid to answer. Just give a verse and say there God said it believe it.
now you have done this very thing
so is that being open to discussion?
it’s sort of like the girl last night was asked a direct question. She refused to answer
Of course she is banned because if a serious heresy. Yet the problem is still the same
people are afraid to answer. Just give a verse and say there God said it believe it.
now you have done this very thing
so is that being open to discussion?
You are making a good point if there is something we disagree on.
I mentioned acts 2, as a point of agreement. Do you think I disagree with you regarding how
the apostles preached and the disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit?
When the hearers of Peters preaching were convicted, they asked
Acts 2:37-38
"Brothers, what shall we do?"
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Is there something here you want to raise with me?
You will need to be clearer in what you are wanting of me, because I am happy to oblige.
Have you a need I can help with, advice I can give, encouragement to share etc. I am here to serve
God bless you
I mentioned acts 2, as a point of agreement. Do you think I disagree with you regarding how
the apostles preached and the disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit?
When the hearers of Peters preaching were convicted, they asked
Acts 2:37-38
"Brothers, what shall we do?"
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Is there something here you want to raise with me?
You will need to be clearer in what you are wanting of me, because I am happy to oblige.
Have you a need I can help with, advice I can give, encouragement to share etc. I am here to serve
God bless you
I assume you are asking me what I believe about this passage.
Peter taught "Repent and be baptised".
Acts 2:38
"Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
And the obvious thing is so we can be forgiven of our sins, which is then sealed with the Holy Spirit.
Now some churches extend this to infant baptism, confirmation etc. which I do not follow.
Some think faith is not relevant before the age of responsibility.
Interestingly Paul talks about children being holy through the faith on one of their believing parents,
which implies they are saved up to the age of responsibility. He never went so far as to declare them saved
in the sense of the in dwelling Holy Spirit, but this creates a dilemma of is their salvation lost if they come
of age and do not express their personal faith?
1 Cor 7:14
For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy
Peter taught "Repent and be baptised".
Acts 2:38
"Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
And the obvious thing is so we can be forgiven of our sins, which is then sealed with the Holy Spirit.
Now some churches extend this to infant baptism, confirmation etc. which I do not follow.
Some think faith is not relevant before the age of responsibility.
Interestingly Paul talks about children being holy through the faith on one of their believing parents,
which implies they are saved up to the age of responsibility. He never went so far as to declare them saved
in the sense of the in dwelling Holy Spirit, but this creates a dilemma of is their salvation lost if they come
of age and do not express their personal faith?
1 Cor 7:14
For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy
i sleep for one night and i come back to this crazy doctrine called serpent seed. i had to read about it. looks like its more crazy people believing that again.
one verse debunks the whole idea.
Genesis 4:1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.”
eve acquired it from the Lord not satan and it says adam was the father not satan. how do the serpent seed people get around this verse or do they just not know it exists? why are people so gullible
i googled actually what they say and they just completely twist the verse hahahaha. they twist man from the Lord to say man from the angel of the Lord (new jerusalem translation they say) and they twist the knew wife to say: "
And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve"
some re-translation of hebrew there. no credible translation does that. these peopel are so desperate to hold their retarded view they dont mind changing that completely. i smell heretics believe in this garbage doctrine. what a joke i really dont know why humans are so dumb. like i sent to big bro a message about some guy who bought a banana attached to a wall with tape for like 30,000 euros or what was it? some absurd amount of money anyhow. i really wonder about it whats in the drinking water here?
i am going crazy guys
one verse debunks the whole idea.
Genesis 4:1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.”
eve acquired it from the Lord not satan and it says adam was the father not satan. how do the serpent seed people get around this verse or do they just not know it exists? why are people so gullible
i googled actually what they say and they just completely twist the verse hahahaha. they twist man from the Lord to say man from the angel of the Lord (new jerusalem translation they say) and they twist the knew wife to say: "
And Adam eventually acknowledged the distinguishing sign that had come upon Eve"
some re-translation of hebrew there. no credible translation does that. these peopel are so desperate to hold their retarded view they dont mind changing that completely. i smell heretics believe in this garbage doctrine. what a joke i really dont know why humans are so dumb. like i sent to big bro a message about some guy who bought a banana attached to a wall with tape for like 30,000 euros or what was it? some absurd amount of money anyhow. i really wonder about it whats in the drinking water here?
i am going crazy guys
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