Not By Works

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mailmandan said:
It's not complicated. What do you believe it means to "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ?" (Acts 16:31) Those who believe will be saved.

Does Satan believe on the Lord Jesus Christ? Is he saved? Obviously NOT.
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This guy is as false as they come....both he and Ralph.......
 
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EleventhHour said:
Let us use some reverse logic then... no works ....no salvation? :unsure:
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You see how sly they are.....My bible is clear and so is the following verse...

But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness
 
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Guojing said:
Actually James and Paul were addressing different groups of believers.

If you are willing to accept that, then there is no contradiction. If you try to mix the audience together, there will be.
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Actually JAMES and PAUL were addressing a MERE belief IN GOD as opposed to SAVING FAITH....the JEWS to this very day STILL have the same problem....a MERE belief IN GOD as opposed to saving FAITH into CHRIST......

"If you are willing to accept that, then there is no contradiction"
 
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posthuman said:
why do you always pretend verse 13 doesn't exist? i must have pointed it out to you a dozen times by now. it's essential to interpreting what Paul did when he arrived there to know what the Spirit had revealed to him would happen to him when he went there.
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Bones my friend, WE ALL know that these hoop jumpers, salvation losers and Cainologists ALL disregard context, verb tenses, the definitions of words etc. in order to peddle their JEEZUS which is not found in scripture.......ALL of them to a T do this incessantly.....
 
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EleventhHour said:
An your point is? This analogy means the works prove faith?

How about works where there is no faith... what does the prove?
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We have several of those clowns posting in this thread........their destiny is the MANY grouping if they do not open their eyes to the truth....JESUS saves eternally by the faith he begins, finishes and completes in US......!
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Even on the days when I feel so low , when my trust is so weak , my LORD holds me , for when I am weak , He is my strength...
I do not rely on my trust , in Him alone I trust , I trust His words to be true , His words cover me when the evil one comes along to give me doubt , just like you are doing , putting doubt into peoples minds , let God be true and every man a liar...
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The same faith that Paul had....I know in whom I have believed and am FULLY persuaded that HE IS ABLE TO KEEP THAT WHICH I HAVE COMMITTED UNTO HIM AGAINST THAT DAY.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Paul is asking the Corinthian believers to see if they are abiding in the faith in their experience.
They were saved... sanctification is in view >>>>> being in the faith
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Many do not grasp that "THE FAITH" is sometimes referencing the SYSTEM of TEACHING found in the word of GOD and has to do with daily sanctification...NOT our eternal justification and salvation before the throne....
 
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PS said:
No, I mean according to Christianity. Do you think you would still be saved?
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Ba deee Ba Deee Ba Deee that's all folks.........

She answered and her answer was valid and your point MOOT..........NO one loses salvation....EVER.....and the HOOP jumping that you and your buddies peddle saves NO ONE
 
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Rosemaryx said:
I believe when Jesus said
Matthew 12:31
“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
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AMEN and for the BELIEVER that has actually trusted JESUS....where SIN abounds....GRACE abounds the more....stay strong sister...the enemies of Christ in this thread are rank and file deep!
 
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AMEN Rose..........HE will never leave you or forsake you....NEVER buy this losable salvation drivel peddled by these clowns....JESUS KEEPS you and I BY his POWER and through the FAITH that HE BEGINS, FINISHES and COMPLETES.....
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John 17:3
And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

I know Jesus is who He says He is...
I have had many days in my early walk with our LORD where I did not understand Him , days when I thought I could lose my Salvation , or had lost my Salvation , but that was because I was relying on my own understanding , even through my dark doubts , He held me and has repeatedly told me through His word , He is faithful to keep hold of me...

To doubt our LORD is to trust in ourselves , He will never let me go , nor any other child of His , I never want to go back to doubting Jesus and live in fear that on certain days , I am not good enough , I am a daughter of the King most High ...
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PS said:
Wrong answer. Jesus was talking to the Pharisees who were of the devil who sins from the beginning. Now we come to the Christian era, and we read:

(8) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
(9) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
(10) In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 1Jn 3:8-10 KJV

In brief, a child of God cannot sin because it would grieve the Holy Spirit who dwells in them thereby committing blasphemy against the Spirit which as your post says will not be forgiven. Good luck to any OSAS member who believes they can sin and are always saved.
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Can I call this B.S.....because that is exactly what this post is....I.E. your embellishment and out of context drivel....!
 
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Rosemaryx said:
You can dig as deep as you want into your barrel , the further you dig the darker it gets , as for me , I lift up my eyes to our LORD , where my help comes from , you know the light , the LORD who tells us never will I leave you nor forsake you...
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HAHAHHAH love it and YOU Rose.....like Bruce Li........WWW HERESY SMACKDOWN .com if there was such a thing HAHAHHAHAH
 
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Judges1318 said:
Just don't forsake Him and his promise will remain rock solid for you.
And you said you were trusting in Him, so you're on the rock solid ground of God's promise. (y)
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RALPH....she did will never buy the koolaid you are selling.......SHE knows the TRUTH....and what you peddle.....is not truth!
 
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Judges1318 said:
What do they have to do with what we have been talking about? We're talking about continuing to trust in Christ for justification, not do works of righteousness related to the law to earn God's declaration of righteousness.

You must continue to trust in Christ for justification to be saved when he returns. I know you don't disagree with that. But for some reason you find it necessary to believe and stress that a person who is genuinely justified in Christ through faith would never stop trusting in Christ for justification. Why does that need to be stressed?
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FALSE...justified forever and eternally.....the above is false....what Ralph is peddling is false....
 
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RebuildJesussChurch said:
He compared it to a distance race. I know I can go to Hell. Paul knew he could be disqualified. We must follow the Lord our God wholeheartedly.

In family devotions we looked at the 1st 4 letters to the churches in Revelation. Jesus threatens to remove Ephesus’ lamp stand. Smyrna was blameless. Pergamum was in real danger. Thyratira was about to face judgement for their tolerance of wickedness and wicked teaching.

True believers of the true Jesus “serve Him with fear, and rejoice with trembling.” All Truth is held in tension. Lots of Christians are just looking for a get out of jail free card. It won’t work no matter how many millions treat Jesus with the same wishful thinking.
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FALSE....Paul never peddled the drivel you are peddling....He knew that he could be disqualified and unusable in the ministry...NO WHERE does he purport the loss of salvation.....you guys are such a spiritually inept bad joke!
 
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