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The main reason you say.....were the following men and the troubles, struggles or misfortune they suffered due to a lack of trust?
Stephen being stoned to death
Paul shipwrecked and in the deep
Peter in prison and then crucified
John exiled to Patmos
etc.
Solomon said that time and chancr happen unto all.....saved and lost alike......People that 100% trust Christ endure many things that have nothing to do with the above quote you made migo.....it is simply TIME and CHANCE.....we cannot OVERLOOK this truth and or attribute everything and anything to God causing one to suffer trouble and or misfortune......
Stephen being stoned to death
Paul shipwrecked and in the deep
Peter in prison and then crucified
John exiled to Patmos
etc.
Solomon said that time and chancr happen unto all.....saved and lost alike......People that 100% trust Christ endure many things that have nothing to do with the above quote you made migo.....it is simply TIME and CHANCE.....we cannot OVERLOOK this truth and or attribute everything and anything to God causing one to suffer trouble and or misfortune......
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Well.....
a. Did he instantly die physically?
b. Did God have to shed blood, make skins and cover his shame and sin?
c. Did that nature now pass to all men?
d. Do men need to be BORN AGAIN to inherit the kingdom of God?
e. Do men ALIVE in the flesh need "d" above?
f. Can a man alive in the flesh, but not born again from above, SPIRITUALLY understand the word of God which is spiritual in nature and origin?
a. Did he instantly die physically?
b. Did God have to shed blood, make skins and cover his shame and sin?
c. Did that nature now pass to all men?
d. Do men need to be BORN AGAIN to inherit the kingdom of God?
e. Do men ALIVE in the flesh need "d" above?
f. Can a man alive in the flesh, but not born again from above, SPIRITUALLY understand the word of God which is spiritual in nature and origin?
My view.....a misunderstanding and application of the word dead...........a complete, exhaustive study of the word and the application of the word carries the concept of SEPARATION......now view it that way....when a person PHYSICALLY dies their spirit is separated from their body.....the same concept is true for a lost man.....they are separated from God and since a LOST MAN cannot inherit the kingdom, they must be held somewhere......and for sure I will not argue the absurdity peddled by some on this site that push the false narrative of annihilation......the bible is clear....Lost men and women will be separated from God into hell and then moved with hell to the lake of fire where they will suffer eternally......
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It has been on the news alot. Is your property anywhere near or are you in Queensland. I can't remember?
I have prayed that the fires go out and quickly. I hope it wasn't started by an arsonist. I really can't understand why you would want to cause so much damage for the attention.
I have prayed that the fires go out and quickly. I hope it wasn't started by an arsonist. I really can't understand why you would want to cause so much damage for the attention.
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