Not By Works

[KJV1611]

Yep

Just like those who interpreted the KJV english bible, just ordinary men who interpreted greek, hebrew chaldean and latin words into the english language and called their book the king james cersion. Not inspired

You tell me not to derail the thread and here you go again lol.

 

[Macabeus]

Why don't you try to help those people instead of bashing, belittling and making fun of them like you do everybody who disagrees with you?

I don't believe in works salvation.... you don't see me treating them like they're sub-human just because they don't understand something that God allowed me to understand.

Can you answer this question without bashing, belittling and making fun of me? I think not.

Some people have that kind of nature to belittle everyone they disagree with. I disagree with you on certain positions, even strongly disagree, but have a belittled or made fun of you?

I am accused of having a ‘tude, but I can demonstrate that in each case where I have had a ‘tude, someone used insulting language before I did

and probably 3/4 of the people who are accused of works salvation aren’t. I know. Because I am accused of teaching works salvation by several here, because I believe that regeneration produces a new nature that in turn GRADUALLY and PROGRESSIVELY produces newer and newer walk

They call that works salavation. Even though I believe in saved and kept by the power of God alone

They don’t know how to discuss matters civilly without mocking and accusing people of positions that they do not hold

 

[VCO]

Why do you keep saying wrong? Both words Hell and Sheol mean the same thing.... a place where dead people go.

NOT IN THE LEAST. HELL is the LAKE OF FIRE, THE EVERLASTING BLAZING FURNACE.

 

[KJV1611]

Some people have that kind of nature to belittle everyone they disagree with. I disagree with you on certain positions, even strongly disagree, but have a belittled or made fun of you?

I am accused of having a ‘tude, but I can demonstrate that in each case where I have had a ‘tude, someone used insulting language before I did

and probably 3/4 of the people who are accused of works salvation aren’t. I know. Because I am accused of teaching works salvation by several here, because I believe that regeneration produces a new nature that in turn GRADUALLY and PROGRESSIVELY produces newer and newer walk

They call that works salavation. Even though I believe in saved and kept by the power of God alone

They don’t know how to discuss matters civilly without mocking and accusing people of positions that they do not hold

I would say that you're one of the coolest people in here... I've seen you get slammed and you keep right on going without name calling. Look at how you and I disagree on ALMOST EVERYTHING lol and we get along fine.

I think there's hope for you lol..... Just kidding, you are A OK in my book.

 

[dcontroversal]

Are you not able to answer a simple question? You're a Hebrew expert aren't you... this should be simple but you wont touch it. You can say King Jimmy all you want but even bibles that use SHEOL use SHEOL in both places. The problem is that you can't tell us why they did it because you DENY that Christ went to SHEOL and you can't fabricate a Hebrew Language myth to cover your rear.

No they don't......I pointed out the fact they are two different words but your complete lack of contextual honesty gives you a severe case of ocular ineptness....!

Do not address me with your drivel again.....

 

[dcontroversal]

Why don't you try to help those people instead of bashing, belittling and making fun of them like you do everybody who disagrees with you?

I don't believe in works salvation.... you don't see me treating them like they're sub-human just because they don't understand something that God allowed me to understand.

Can you answer this question without bashing, belittling and making fun of me? I think not.

Why don't you go make your own thread to whine bag in!

And if you think me calling a spade a spade is akin to any of the drivel in your post....you have a very bad day coming in the near future pal.....

 

[VCO]

NOT IN THE LEAST. HELL is the LAKE OF FIRE, THE EVERLASTING BLAZING FURNACE.

QUOTE:
Perhaps no doctrine is harder to accept emotionally than the doctrine of hell. Yet it is too clear and too often mentioned in Scripture either to deny or to ignore. Jesus spoke more of hell than any of the prophets or apostles did—perhaps for the reason that its horrible truth would be all but impossible to accept had not the Son of God Himself absolutely affirmed it. It had special emphasis in Jesus' teaching from the beginning to the end of His earthly ministry. He said more about hell than about love. More than all other teachers in the Bible combined, He warned men of hell, promising no escape for those who refused His gracious, loving offer of salvation.


In the Sermon on the Mount alone, the Lord gives several specific and direct warnings about hell: "Whoever shall say, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell" (Matt. 5:22), and, "It is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell" v. 29; cf. v. 30; 18:8-9; Mark 9:43.


Jesus declares that the wicked "sons of the kingdom shall be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matt. 8:12) and that unbelieving Capernaum would "descend to Hades" (11:23; cf. Luke 10:15). He asked the evil and hypocritical scribes and Pharisees, "How shall you escape the sentence of hell?" (Matt. 23:33). On many other occasions Jesus alludes to hell and warns about damnation (5:20; 7:13, 19, 23, 27; 10:28; 12:36; 16:18; 18:8-9; 21:43-44; 23:14-15; 24:40-41, 51; 25:30, 46; Mark 3:29; Luke 12:9-10, 46; 16:23; John 5:29; 15:6).


Hell is not merely the fate of forever reliving bad memories or of going out into nothingness, as many people believe and teach. Nor is it a place where sinners will continue their sinning, unrestrained and unrebuked. There will be no pleasure at all in hell, not even the perverted pleasure of sin—only its punishment.


When an interviewer asked a young punk rock singer what she was looking forward to at the end of her career, she replied, "Death. I'm looking forward to death." When asked why, she said, "I want to go to hell, because hell will be fun."


Such deception is tragic beyond words. Nothing could less describe hell than fun. The human mind cannot begin to conceive of the eternal horror that is hell. Even the biblical figures related to hell are only suggestive, because the finite mind cannot comprehend infinite pain and torment any more than it can comprehend infinite joy and bliss. But from God's Word we learn four basic truths about the furnace of fire that will help us to partially grasp its terror


MacArthur New Testament Commentary, The - MacArthur New Testament Commentary – Matthew 8-15. END QOUTE.

 

[dcontroversal]

You know, when a salvation loser that butchers the word daily while peddling some false salvation that one does not possess unto the end likes o e of your posts......must mean you are not standing for the truth!

 

[dcontroversal]

I'm okay. Had an apartment inspection with the landlord this morning. I just ate some chips and spinach artichoke dip and now I'm watching a documentary about Jim Morrison on Youtube.. lol

Ole Jim....he said a mouth full in that one song when he sang-->Cancel my subscription to the resurrection, send my credentials to the house of detention.....

He married a witch which involved drinking blood and died not long after......and he spoke at length one time about killing a man on a highway going west...

 

[KJV1611]

NOT IN THE LEAST. HELL is the LAKE OF FIRE, THE EVERLASTING BLAZING FURNACE.

The lake of fire is only mentioned in the book of Revelation and none of those equate hell to the lake of fire. Where did you get that hell is the lake of fire VCO?

 

[KJV1611]

You know, when a salvation loser that butchers the word daily while peddling some false salvation that one does not possess unto the end likes o e of your posts......must mean you are not standing for the truth!

What about a guy who peddles God sacrificed a bunch of babies so that Christ could come.... wasn't that you?

 

[dcontroversal]

With the warrior comment I meant that once you're used to fighting your entire life you tend to carry that with you. IM WORKING ON IT! Thanks for apology acceppted!

Don't let his drivel fool you migo....Jesus, John, Paul, Elijah and many others used sarcasm, pointed comments, derogatory designations when dealing with false teachers......he has no right to open his mouth and judge how I speak to those that peddle a losable or maintainable salvation.....

 

[dcontroversal]

Every time I'm off this site for a few days/weeks, I come back on and see new people arguing minute points and straying off the OP of this thread. Why is that?

Simple.....Satan does not want the message of biblical salvation to be continually laid bare......hence those in here derailing while rejecting truth, context and the i spired verbiage of the bible

 

[dcontroversal]

As followers of Jesus Christ, can we not define our arguments in the peace and love as He did without denigrating one another? Before anyone responds, I confess I am as guilty sometimes as another with harsh words, condemnation. I'm working on this. My words either glorify Christ or hurt His cause. It's all up to me. How miserably I fail.

Star.....were the following men and words biblical and acceptable when dealing with those that corrupt the word of God?

White washed coffins filled with the bones of dead men

Blind leaders of the blind

Hypocrites and generation of vipers and snakes

Maybe your god is asleep or on a journey

The works of your father the devil you will do

Using a whip to drive men out

In anger tossing the tables of stone and GRINDING UP a golden calf and making the people drink it

etc.....I am sick of some whine bagging because I cut no slack to a few on here that totally devalue the word of God, Jesus, his work and sacrifice.......and it is a sad DAY INDEED when BELIEVERS coddle false teachers and as a believer we CANNOT SPEAK JUST LIKE THE MEN OF THE BIBLE DID AT TIMES using heat, sarcasm, pointed names or designations.......it is no wonder Christianity is a joke today with no power..........

 

[dcontroversal]

What about a guy who peddles God sacrificed a bunch of babies so that Christ could come.... wasn't that you?[/QUOTE
Wasn't me pal.....I have never said any such thing....feel free to find that quote!!!!

 

[Hevosmies]

it is a sad DAY INDEED when BELIEVERS coddle false teachers and as a believer we CANNOT SPEAK JUST LIKE THE MEN OF THE BIBLE DID AT TIMES using heat, sarcasm, pointed names or designations.......it is no wonder Christianity is a joke today with no power..........

GREAT! Christianity is in last days apostasy I BELIEVE, firmly.

Point me a to a time in history when its been this bad and i'll believe you!

 

[KJV1611]

@dcontroversal
I may not have the detail exactly right but it had something to do with the 144,000, do you remember that thread?

 

[dcontroversal]

@dcontroversal
I may not have the detail exactly right but it had something to do with the 144,000, do you remember that thread?

Pull up a quote where I SAID that GOD sacrificed a bunch of babies so Christ could come.....or apologize for spreading bs about me openly....simple as...!!

 

[KJV1611]

Pull up a quote where I SAID that GOD sacrificed a bunch of babies so Christ could come.....or apologize for spreading bs about me openly....simple as...!!

Let me see if I can find, may take a while.

 

[dcontroversal]

Let me see if I can find, may take a while.

You won't find me saying any such thing....I have never said that God sacrificed a bunch of babies so that Jesus could come....might as well apologize now and get it over with.....

Hey Gang.....see how they operate....openly accuse me of saying I said God sacrificed a bunch of babies so Jesus could come.......

has ANYONE EVER SEEN ME SAY THAT?