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Well we know if they HAD eternal life, it is still eternal, even today,

If they did not HAVE eternal life, they never had it, and nothing changed. [/
Well we know if they HAD eternal life, it is still eternal, even today,

If they did not HAVE eternal life, they never had it, and nothing changed.
Read Revelation 21:8. What does it say about liars. I suppose you think “believers” who do not repent of their fornication have eternal life too. Several antinomians have said that on this website.
 
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Exactly!!

Some people believe that the very egregious sins were not dealt with by the cross.

Human pride states..... "well I would never do those things therefore that person must not be saved or has not made Jesus Lord of their life."
Jesus said it best, ALL sin WILL be forgiven

He does not separate sin, because scripture states the penalty of ALL sin is death.

People focus on some sins to make themselves look batter, because they have not understood how sinfull they really are and are not secure in christ, so they need to find hope, their hope is that they are not a bad as a sinner as these people.

Its a sign of legalism, we see it in the jews, we see it in much of the church. Same tactic of satan
 

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Read Revelation 21:8. What does it say about liars. I suppose you think “believers” who do not repent of their fornication have eternal life too. Several antinomians have said that on this website.
are you saying if someone says a lie and doesnt repent of it and dies they are unsaved? im not sure anyone is always honest. even my dear mother has lied to me.
 
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Dying in grace would mean they died saved, they suffered what is called the sin unto death

Dying out of grace would be dying seperation from god, or spiritually dead, there is no hope

I believe Antimonium (gk against law) is what is used by lawyers to put people who believe we have been freed from the law into a bubble, like calvinist, dispension etc etc

I could be wrong
My bible says all liars have their part in the lake of fire. Revelation 21:8

Same for fornicators and adulterers and thieve who do not repent . But you believe, apparently, that one can do these things and call themselves a believer
 
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Jesus said it best, ALL sin WILL be forgiven

He does not separate sin, because scripture states the penalty of ALL sin is death.

People focus on some sins to make themselves look batter, because they have not understood how sinfull they really are and are not secure in christ, so they need to find hope, their hope is that they are not a bad as a sinner as these people.

Its a sign of legalism, we see it in the jews, we see it in much of the church. Same tactic of satan
Revelation 21:8
 
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are you saying if someone says a lie and doesnt repent of it and dies they are unsaved? im not sure anyone is always honest. even my dear mother has lied to me.
When we sin we repent. Unrepentant sinners are not believers. But there are folks here who believe that you can fornicate till death and you’re saved. But the Bible doesn’t teach that
 
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Dying in grace would mean they died saved, they suffered what is called the sin unto death

Dying out of grace would be dying seperation from god, or spiritually dead, there is no hope

I believe Antimonium (gk against law) is what is used by lawyers to put people who believe we have been freed from the law into a bubble, like calvinist, dispension etc etc

I could be wrong
You are not wrong.. LOL;)
 
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are you saying if someone says a lie and doesnt repent of it and dies they are unsaved? im not sure anyone is always honest. even my dear mother has lied to me.
Thats law speak, if that can cause us to lose salvation, then an animal must die to bring redemption, no amount of repentance will save you,

As scripture says, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness

and since only jesus blood can wash away sin, that means jesus has to die again. Which is never going to happen, so they would be lost forever for that one sin that caused death.

They do not understand the law or what is required.
 
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You are not wrong.. LOL;)
Antinomians believe even unrepentant fornicators and adulterers have eternal life. It has been said on this site. Complete contradiction of 1 Cor 6:9-11

And sin is sin, so in antinomianism, all unrepentant sin can be practiced and one is saved.

So if I die in the state of adultery, I go to heaven. I just don’t inherit.
 

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When we sin we repent. Unrepentant sinners are not believers. But there are folks here who believe that you can fornicate till death and you’re saved. But the Bible doesn’t teach that
ok. if i lie now and die 20minutes after lying from heart attack what then?
 
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No one who is a child of god commits a sin and is not convicted of that sin, and no one who is a child does not come to know he did wrong, and no one is free from chastening of the spirit

Some people try to use the word repent as a word which frees them from being legalistic,. Well they are wrong

You repent BEFORE you come to christ, saying you must repent after is calling your own origional repentance into question, and gods integrity into question (he saved someone who has not yet repented)
 
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ok. if i lie now and die 20minutes after lying from heart attack what then?
How many sins have you commited in the last week that you do not even know or remember you commited them?

If confession of every sin is required to maintain salvation, no one is, or ever will be saved.