Not By Works

[FollowHisSteps]

Yes it will be, I fear you one day will found out how dreadful
I am his child. He is my Abba. I can come to him freely because he adopted me. Not because I was worthy or earned it. But because he loved me.
he loved me when I was his enemy, How much more will he love me as his child?
Thats called conditional life. Not eternal life. Eternal means forever. if it can ever stop being , it is not eternal.
Again, You have an issue with language
John 6: And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
Jesus said otherwise.
You do that with your gospel of works my friend. You reject the blood as being sufficient to do what it was supposed to do. WASH away ALL SIN.
Yeah, Look what John said. Did John contradict himself?
1 John 3:
Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
So if a person who is living in sin has NEVER SEEN GOD. How could they ever have BEEN SAVED, and then LOST IT?
If I child of God can not LIVE IN SIN because he has been BORN OF GOD. How could they ever sin so much that they could be lost?
Once again, You need to go to a church and learn about the bible. Because you have either been led astray or have led yourself astray.

I am his child. He is my Abba.

Jesus said of His sheep they obey Him, they listen to Him, they follow Him.
His children are holy, pure, washed, redeemed and desire to walk in His will.

So we can claim God is our daddy, except He is also a Holy God who burns sinners
for their sin, and hates those who rebel and continue in evil.

If one has no repentance and no desire to walk in His ways, then Father is ones
judge and not a friend, someone to fear and be terrified of because of His judgements.

Closeness to His word can bring arrogance and presumption, where fear and trembling
would produce reality of who we are as redeemed saints walking in His grace.

Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.
We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check.
James 3:1-2

But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.
James 3:17

The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, "I am trembling with fear."
But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God.
You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,
to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven.
You have come to God, the judge of all men, to the spirits of righteous men made perfect,
to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks.
If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth,
how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven?
Heb 12:21-25

 

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you first.

which sins have you given up? what day and time?

Actually this would be easy to come up with many sins, even if you did not give them up.. This is the internet. Cant prove anything

 

[eternally-gratefull]

2 Timothy 1:7
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”

All these lawyers who want to put people under fear. Saying God will only accept you IF you obey him, are again trying to put you under fear, Take your sound mind away, and denies the love of God, And reject the thought that God gave us the spirit which gives us POWER to obey him, Because HE ADOPTED US.

WE OBAY BECAUSE WE ARE SAVED, NOT TO GET SAVED! They have it backwards. And will in the end, suffer for their pride and refusal to repent.

 

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2 Timothy 1:7
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

Romans 8:15
For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”

All these lawyers who want to put people under fear. Saying God will only accept you IF you obey him, are again trying to put you under fear, Take your sound mind away, and denies the love of God, And reject the thought that God gave us the spirit which gives us POWER to obey him, Because HE ADOPTED US.

WE OBAY BECAUSE WE ARE SAVED, NOT TO GET SAVED! They have it backwards. And will in the end, suffer for their pride and refusal to repent.

Jesus said " if you love Me. keep my commands."

the legalists flip that in their minds and say " you will keep my commands if you love Me". putting command keeping first.

I think we should accept Scripture as is, and not manipulate it.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

The enemies of the Kingdom

In warfare you kill your enemies. In battle to trade blows and the victor is he who has
damaged the other party more.

In the Kingdom, it is the one who has blessed most the best.
We are to encourage one another in doing good, in praising Jesus and the Father and
thanking them for the blessing they bring us every day, Amen.

But even if I am being poured out like a drink offering on the sacrifice and
service coming from your faith, I am glad and rejoice with all of you.
So you too should be glad and rejoice with me.
Phil 2:17-18

We are a drink offering to our Lord and King.

But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet.
For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.
He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him.
Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.
1 Thess 5:8-11

Thank you Jesus for your people and the light they bring to your word and your salvation.
For as long as anyone reads your word and reaches out to you, so shall life flow and seeds
be planted. Amen, Praise the Lord.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jesus said " if you love Me. keep my commands."

the legalists flip that in their minds and say " you will keep my commands if you love Me". putting command keeping first.

I think we should accept Scripture as is, and not manipulate it.

They have a feel good religion. Like the pharisees. They teach what wisdom would think it should teach. We have to obey to be saved, Because thats what got us into trouble in the first place

What they fail to realise is the love of God overcame that. Because since the fall. Our ability to obey (according to his standard) has become impossible. So instead of leaving us to our own futility and giving us no hope. He took our sin on his flesh and offered us hope. He did what we were unable to do. Out of his abundant mercy and love

So although their humanistic theology sounds good. That is all it does. They reject the cross. Because the wisdom that God would come and die for us and demand nothing in return is foolish to them. Because they have yet to come to the point, like the tax collector, of understanding That if he did demand what his justice requires we would still fall so far short we would still end up in Hell.

Like a friend of mine says, Every morning I wake up and I am not in Hell. Thats a good day!

 

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The enemy of the kingdom is the one who takes the weapons the supreme commander gave them to defeat the enemy, and reject them, while taking the propoganda of the enemy commander and believing in that while following that commander with the failure to understand he is working for the enemy

The supreme commander gave us the cross. They reject it.. Because they have bought the propoganda of the enemy.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Hatred of fear

In Christ we have no fear.
Work out your salvation in fear and trembling.

These appear a contradiction. If we abide in Christ, love rules our heart and we know Gods
will, walking fulfilling Gods law so not under judgement as law breakers.

Fear comes from lawbreaking.

We are mortals, redeemed saints who have limitations and are always one step away from sin.
We need always to know humbleness and our weakness and frailty so that we know the God
whom we serve and how privileged we are to be called friends.

Moses saw God, and was petrified. Even he made one mistake not giving honour to the Lord
and suffered judgement. Not loss of salvation, but not seeing the promised land.

So in all these things, knowing God is not safe or easy, or something to be taken for granted.
It takes everything we have and everything we are.

There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment.
The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
1 John 4:18

Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
Phil 2:12

We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels,
the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers
or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars
and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.
1 Tim 1:9-11

Fear is not a sin, it is the beginning of wisdom

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Prov 9:10

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death--even death on a cross!
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence,
but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
Phil 2:5-12

This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome,
for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.
Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
1 John 5:3-5

If you find the world overcoming you, search out Christ, for He declares is you are born of God
you overcome the world, Amen, Praise your name, Jesus

 

[Hevosmies]

Two of the most important things in your life are as follows, in order of importance:

1. Being saved and knowing you are saved!
2. Being in the will of God and knowing it!

If you know those two things you got it made in the shade!

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Is obeying impossible? No.
But knowing God without a cleansed purified heart full of love? No.

For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God,
who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh--
though I myself have reasons for such confidence. If anyone else thinks he
has reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more:
circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin,
a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee;
as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless.
But whatever was to my profit I now consider loss for the sake of Christ.
What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness
of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things.
I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ
Phil 3:3-8

Our problem is our hearts and not knowing Jesus.
So those who claim they can leave their hearts alone, and claim all the promises
of Jesus are simply lying.

The promise is to walk like Jesus, which Paul did.

Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
1 Cor 11:1

 

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Why is it people refuse to humble themselves enough to give it all to God. And then attack those who have?

Workers for want you to fear. Or deny your fear by watering down the law to a point where you can look at your own life and not live in fear that you are a sinner. Of course in doing so, they get you to look at other people who are WORSE sinner then you are.

They use things like. Well, I do not commit murder. Or hey, I do not look at porn. I have never raped anyone or I have been healed from drug addiction (not realisng even athiests have been healed of drug addiction) so I must be ok with God. God loves me, so he will not cast me out as long as I continue to live the way I do. And preach in his name and attack these sinners who call themselves christian.

its all a ploy by satan to deceive people into falling for religion. It worked powerfully with the jews. As and we see, it has worked powerfully in the church.

If you can not look at yourself as wretched people apart from God at this very moment, (Paul saw himself in this state) One must search deeply and find out why you think you are righteous. And why you think you deserve salvation. because you have yet to be like paul. Who was a pharisee who puffed his chest because he was so righteous, and above th law so he was ok. While attacking tax collectors who fall on their knees as sinners. Then became one of the most powerful teachers of Grace ever.

Repent. Before it is too late. Not psuedo repentance. But true, mind emptying, bancrupt in spirit repentance, which leads to salvation

 

[YourTruthGod]

Let us think about sin a little. All sins lead to death. One sin destroys eternally as much as another.
So let us imagine murder as the sin, because it is graphic.

You walk into church and everyone you meet has blood on their hands, would you immediately run out
and call the police? Yes.

When you meet someone who appear nice and friendly, puts out their hand with blood dripping off it,
would you then not run away and want nothing to do with them? Yes.

This is sin, this is the horror of such behaviour, and its deadly judgemental consequences.

For sin we declare God will torment sinners in hell for all eternity, literally roast them alive.
But there is a group who say, yes we believe this, except we can sin with impunity and God just
ignores it because we are safe, got the special inside pass, nothing happening here guys.

This is literal foolishness. If one knows a Holy God who kills people to helping steady a cart,
executes people for gathering wood on the sabbath, yet will ignore sinners sinning who claim
to know Jesus is just spiritual suicide.

Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.
Heb 12:14

If you do not know Holiness you will never see the Lord, be saved.

Right; it is like because they say they believe in God, God will not know they are sinning when they do, or as if God is going to pretend you are not sinning?

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Two views of repentance

1. Repenting of ones sins before God and walking in His ways
2. Admiting one is a sinner and continuing in sin while believing you are now innocent.

In a world of wealth like Laodicea or today, it is possible to be a continual sinner and appear
to be reasonably ok. One can convince oneself though ones conscience and memory tell you
otherwise it does not matter.

In a world where sin is literally death and destruction, those who walk in the light are crystal
clear and salt to the rest.

It is obvious Peter did not compromise with sin

But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do;
for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."
1 Peter 1:15-16

No did Paul

For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life.
1 Thess 4:7

It is up to who you want to follow, God and His word or false teachers.

 

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Right; it is like because they say they believe in God, God will not know they are sinning when they do, or as if God is going to pretend you are not sinning?

Let be honest

Who does this?

Those who do not admit to sin because they do not know what sin is? (Water down the law)

Or those who have repented of their rejection and anti-god views and come to God in faith, who have acknowledged they not only have been healed of many sins, They are still GROWING in Christ and learning more and more as they grow how deep a sinner they really are?

 

[FollowHisSteps]

The weird twist

"Believers" who are sinning openly are wrongly being convicted of sin and should not repent before God and
walk in His ways but reject Gods people and holiness as a false religion.

If you want to setup your own church with your own version of the bible, go ahead, it is a free world.
Judgement for sin remains and the destruction it brings into peoples lives is as real as day and night.
Our world is full of pornography, sexual immorality, greed, divorce, child abuse, rape, murder, hatred,
bitterness, envy, anger.

And our response should be to just accept it and Praise God.

The prophets have always called people to repentance, to admit their sin, to grieve over it, to desire to
live righteously and actually start respecting and loving people. In Jesus we have the means to achieve
this with a changed heart. Praise God, Amen.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Yes it will be, I fear you one day will found out how dreadful

I am his child. He is my Abba. I can come to him freely because he adopted me. Not because I was worthy or earned it. But because he loved me.

Hebrews 10:26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” 31It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

he loved me when I was his enemy, How much more will he love me as his child?

He loved His creation, and loves you personally if you love Him by obeying Him.

Proverbs 8:17 I love those who love me,

1 Corinthians 8:3 But whoever loves God is known by God; and 2 John 1:6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands.

Psalm 91:14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him;

1 Samuel 2:30 "Therefore the LORD, the God of Israel, declares: 'I promised that members of your family would minister before me forever.' But now the LORD declares: 'Far be it from me! Those who honor me I will honor, but those who despise me will be disdained.

John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."

So if a person who is living in sin has NEVER SEEN GOD. How could they ever have BEEN SAVED, and then LOST IT?

Hebrews 10: 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

 

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Repentance.

1. We are Gods enemy, everything we do is against God. We are not righteous, We can do no good. And our eternal destiny is hell, we are dead to God because of our rejection of him, and because of this, EVERYTHING we do we do with a self serving focus. Meaning everything we do is sin. We deserve hell, and there is nothign we can do to save ourselves

2. God is not the evil God satan claims he is. He does love us, So much that he took on human form. Lived a life I was required to live but could not. And suffered and hung on a cross because of my sin. He promises if I empty myself and recieve his gift, He WILL save me, He WILL justify me, He WILL perfect me, He WILL Redeem me, He WILL ressurect me, He WILL give me eternal life. He WILL raise me from dead to life. He will make me into a new creature, and he WILL start the work of sanctifying me.

A person who has repented has gone from thinkning of self 24/7 to realising he is in an ongoing battle to grow. See and learn from the times he fails to love others. But instead of love self. He realise this journey is lifelong, and as paul said, we must continue to run the race. Not being proud. Thinking we have made it (become sinless) but realise our flesh is there, it is powerful. This war between the spirit and the flesh will be lifelong. And I must instead of worry about how good I am, or be broken by all my mistakes. Come to the throne of our father because he loves us, Not withstand his chastening when we sin, And work out the result of our salvation in fear. Knowing our true desire (to work and be an ambassador of God) can be destroyed if we are not held above reproach. Knowing many before have had great ministries. These were destroyed because of a moment of fleshly desire which they could not withstand. And Although God did forgive them. We see the result of the ministries never are able to reach the point it was before. As paul said, He feared that as a leader of God, and trying to bring people to Christ, he would commit some sin which would cause the world to look at him, and he would lose his light. Unable to teach, because his reputation has been destroyed.

Look at king davids life. Before his sin, he was a powerful leader of God and his people. After, although he was forgiven, His power and life as a leader of God had been broken, and never really fully recovered.

Face it people. These lawyers who say they have repented because they obey God. And have come to perfection. They have not repented. They are still in the drawing state, God is trying to draw them, but their pride is too deep. And until they see their error and their brokeneness, they will never see what we see..

 

[Hevosmies]

Its easier to roll down a hill than it is to climb up a hill!

The default position of man is to roll down a hill, it takes a work of God for someone to start climbing up!

Dont give up swimming upstream even though its hard, dont turn back and look at the people laying back and going downstream, its a big fall ahead! The Niagara falls buddy! Keep swimming up. It will pay off in the end. The longer you swim upstream, the easier it gets, the more you resist temptation the easier it gets.

 

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Another liar.

True children of God do not continue in sin and think it is ok and they do nto even have to confess it.

These men believe satans lie. Creating this strawman as a means to prove to themselves they are ok.

They can not see what we believe, because in order to do so, they would have to repent. So instead, they just lie and slander others with half truths and false truths that do not resemple the people they are attacking at all.