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GodsGrace101

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Odd. "Aim for perfection" 2 cor 13:11

This is Paul sharing His heart. So you do not agree with Paul, the apostle.
And when I last looked, I was not yet like Jesus. So the gap between where I am and where I want to be
needs work. Sounds like you are not willing to learn, obey or be taught by God. You know what that means?
Modern day fallacy.
I wonder what's next sometimes??

I love my bible. It tells me all I need to know.
God presented Himself first.
Then I learned so much from reading the N.T.
And it's so easy to understand.
I didn't even know there were persons that had such differing beliefs.
I thought the Holy Spirit taught everyone the same beliefs.
I was pretty shocked to find out differently,,,,TTYTT.

But I like to keep posting what God has taught me and what I've learned.
 

Budman

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The CCC is not something easily usable and that one goes to for ONE PARAGRAPH.
CCC #1129 "The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation. "

And that's enough.

Unless of course, you know more than the RCC regarding their doctrine.

Pope Boniface VIII ...." we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

Unless of course, you know more than a Pope regarding salvation.

No sacraments - not subjecting oneself to the Roman Pontiff = NO SALVATION.

:D
 

GodsGrace101

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Akin to spam: Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages.
What are you doing here M?
I thought your life was calling.
I'm rather surprised that you read these stupid, pointless, annoying messages.

I rather have a lot of fun here!
Of course, I'm a lady of leisure.
 

GodsGrace101

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CCC #1129 "The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation. "

And that's enough.

Unless of course, you know more than the RCC regarding their doctrine.

Pope Boniface VIII ...." we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

Unless of course, you know more than a Pope regarding salvation.

No sacraments - not subjecting oneself to the Roman Pontiff = NO SALVATION.

:D
Wow.
What a testa dura.
You don't even believe what's written in black and white.
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Unless, of course, it's YOUR black and white.

Testa Dura....
A hardhead.
 

Budman

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Wow.
What a testa dura.
You don't even believe what's written in black and white.
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Unless, of course, it's YOUR black and white.

Testa Dura....
A hardhead.
Poor Fran - beaten at her own game.

Waiting for you to say you know better than the Catechism and a Pope.
 

Magenta

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What are you doing here M?
I thought your life was calling.
I'm rather surprised that you read these stupid, pointless, annoying messages.

I rather have a lot of fun here!
Of course, I'm a lady of leisure.
Your stupid pointless annoying messages largely go ignored, it is true, but in this case, your post was brought to my attention, and I am free to respond despite your nasty inclinations and snarkiness.
 

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I have spent the last several hours praying about this so what I say I do not say lightly. I have never done anything like this before especially online, but I must obey what I feel in my heart. I have already been told that many of you will disagree and laugh at me..... But again I don't care that is a price I'm willing to pay.

I Speak today to anyone who has disagreed with me over the last several days but especially to
dictator Decon......E G or eternally grateful........... BUDMAN......VCO.....HV something,......... The fact that you could not sense that I was led here to help you............just like Aquila and Priscilla helped Apollo's and showed him the way more perfectly, says a lot to me about your spiritual condition you have ears but you will not hear me. Anyone reading my post should have felt something in their heart and said yes, yes this too is truth. But not you, you have Harden your heart and stiffened your necks. Henceforth I have been told to demand... Yea command, everyone who stands in disagreement with me...... Do not ever address me on this forum any longer..... I hate to do this I don't want to do this, but I must!! do not ever talk to me again. You have had your time to learn but you have refused. From this day forward.......I have been told to Warn all of you that disagree with me that even if you try to address me on this form again that the isolation, devastation and destruction found in the book of Naomi 3: 2 -12 will then be placed upon your heads and it will soon become your isolation desolation and destruction....... Laugh..... Make fun of me but you have been warned!

YOU HAVE LOST IT! Now you have been REDUCED to OCCULT threats from the SUPPOSED book of NAOMI 3:2.

HOW SAD! Have a nice life, because the I am not sure you will like the Hereafter.

This Psuedo Christian false prophet has been EXPOSED.
 

GodsGrace101

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Your stupid pointless annoying messages largely go ignored, it is true, but in this case, your post was brought to my attention, and I am free to respond despite your nasty inclinations and snarkiness.
They go ignored?
LOL

Matthew 7:5
 

PennEd

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I have spent the last several hours praying about this so what I say I do not say lightly. I have never done anything like this before especially online, but I must obey what I feel in my heart. I have already been told that many of you will disagree and laugh at me..... But again I don't care that is a price I'm willing to pay.

I Speak today to anyone who has disagreed with me over the last several days but especially to
dictator Decon......E G or eternally grateful........... BUDMAN......VCO.....HV something,......... The fact that you could not sense that I was led here to help you............just like Aquila and Priscilla helped Apollo's and showed him the way more perfectly, says a lot to me about your spiritual condition you have ears but you will not hear me. Anyone reading my post should have felt something in their heart and said yes, yes this too is truth. But not you, you have Harden your heart and stiffened your necks. Henceforth I have been told to demand... Yea command, everyone who stands in disagreement with me...... Do not ever address me on this forum any longer..... I hate to do this I don't want to do this, but I must!! do not ever talk to me again. You have had your time to learn but you have refused. From this day forward.......I have been told to Warn all of you that disagree with me that even if you try to address me on this form again that the isolation, devastation and destruction found in the book of Naomi 3: 2 -12 will then be placed upon your heads and it will soon become your isolation desolation and destruction....... Laugh..... Make fun of me but you have been warned!
Well... I was gonna reply to this, but saw the message from admin.

Of course this person needed to be banned, but I feel a little disturbed and sad not only for him, but I think he said he was the Pastor of a small Church.

This is a deranged individual. I pray in Jesus Name, he gets the help he needs, and causes no harm to those he impacts.
 

BillG

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Well... I was gonna reply to this, but saw the message from admin.

Of course this petson needed to be banned, but I feel a little disturbed and sad not only for him, but I think he said he was the Pastor of a small Church.

This is a deranged individual. I pray in Jesus Name, he gets the help he needs, and causes no harm to those he impacts.
What message
 

stonesoffire

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It would be nice to see scripture from the New Testament that says “justification by faith alone”.


People that proclaim this either can’t read, or they don’t comprehend what their reading.




JPT


Act 13:38  "Therefore, brothers, you must understand that through him the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you,


Act 13:39  and that everyone who believes in him is justified and freed from everything that kept you from being justified by the Law of Moses.
 

GodsGrace101

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Act 13:38  "Therefore, brothers, you must understand that through him the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you,


Act 13:39  and that everyone who believes in him is justified and freed from everything that kept you from being justified by the Law of Moses.
I just want to say that Acts 13:39 is stating that we cannot be justified by the Law of Moses.
Let's just make clear that persons were justified in the O.T. too.
As faith saves today...persons in the O.T. were also saved by faith.
This has always been true.
 

posthuman

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Maybe he means Nahum?
There's no book of Naomi in the book of mormon. There's a couple Nephis.

Naomi is Ruth's mother in law. I think he meant Nahum but it got autocorrected and he didn't notice; Nahum 3 is a judgment against Nineveh
 

stonesoffire

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I just want to say that Acts 13:39 is stating that we cannot be justified by the Law of Moses.
Let's just make clear that persons were justified in the O.T. too.
As faith saves today...persons in the O.T. were also saved by faith.
This has always been true.
By atoning blood.

Perhaps I should restate this as "by faith in blood atonement".
 

GodsGrace101

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By atoning blood.

Perhaps I should restate this as "by faith in blood atonement".
I think you do mean Jesus' blood.
His sacrifice happened 2,000 years ago,,,but in God's time it always existed....
Time for God is not separated....it's not past, present and future.
The sacrifice always existed.
Time with God is something interesting to ponder...
but probably not many of us really understand it.

P.S. Ooops. Your last sentence just came out.
But I knew what you meant.
 

lightbearer

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I have spent the last several hours praying about this so what I say I do not say lightly. I have never done anything like this before especially online, but I must obey what I feel in my heart. I have already been told that many of you will disagree and laugh at me..... But again I don't care that is a price I'm willing to pay.

I Speak today to anyone who has disagreed with me over the last several days but especially to
dictator Decon......E G or eternally grateful........... BUDMAN......VCO.....HV something,......... The fact that you could not sense that I was led here to help you............just like Aquila and Priscilla helped Apollo's and showed him the way more perfectly, says a lot to me about your spiritual condition you have ears but you will not hear me. Anyone reading my post should have felt something in their heart and said yes, yes this too is truth. But not you, you have Harden your heart and stiffened your necks. Henceforth I have been told to demand... Yea command, everyone who stands in disagreement with me...... Do not ever address me on this forum any longer..... I hate to do this I don't want to do this, but I must!! do not ever talk to me again. You have had your time to learn but you have refused. From this day forward.......I have been told to Warn all of you that disagree with me that even if you try to address me on this form again that the isolation, devastation and destruction found in the book of Naomi 3: 2 -12 will then be placed upon your heads and it will soon become your isolation desolation and destruction....... Laugh..... Make fun of me but you have been warned!
I understand you were banned for this post. Sorry to see you go