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eternally-gratefull

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lol im at work and have to go soon

but i saw illegitmate claims

ill be checking in to see if any others try to attack the eternal gift of salvation

by grace through faith CHRIST offers

it is only by imputed righteousness

not works

Its all good. I am at work too. Just saddened by the fact it still continues..
 

Budman

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Your Jesus who is so strong to save you even when you live in the unbelief of hypocrisy is too weak to grow you up out of your sin. That's not my Jesus.
And yet, you still sin, Ralph. You sinned yesterday, you sinned today, and you'll sin tomorrow. You are the epitome of hypocrisy - the absolute poster boy. Squealing on and on about our "living in sin" when you are as guilty as anyone.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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sin

what saves?

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Romans 11:29 - For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance.

John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.


John 6:37 - All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

John 10:28 - And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

Philippians 1:6 - Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ:


1 John Chapter 5

10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
bump for those who want to know how to get saved

(forever)

the imputed righteousness of Jesus

no other way

He is the narrow path
 

Studyman

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And yet, you still sin, Ralph. You sinned yesterday, you sinned today, and you'll sin tomorrow. You are the epitome of hypocrisy - the absolute poster boy. Squealing on and on about our "living in sin" when you are as guilty as anyone.
Really!! So you made the judgment! Exactly what sin did Ralph commit yesterday, and today.
 
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Arrogance

If anyone can says people sinned yesterday, today and tomorrow, they are not human but
claiming to be God.

A prophet speaking on behalf of God, could say someone has sinned and then specify the
sin to bring them to repentance, and reconciliation with God.

But to say someone is a slave to sin, so one can generalise about sin to the extent to say
they are worthy of being rejected from the Kingdom because of defilement.

James never judged like this.

Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?
James 4:11-12

And how can anyone say if someone else will sin, before it has happened other than
God who sees all things?

So people who speak like this exalt themselves as God himself, bringing condemnation
on others, without the position to be a judge.

In reality all they see is their own sin which they project on to others as Paul bring to light.

To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.
They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good
Titus 1:15-16

How Gods word bring light upon the heart of these unbelievers and the lack of purity
that dwells within.
 

Budman

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Really!! So you made the judgment! Exactly what sin did Ralph commit yesterday, and today.

Have no idea what sins he committed, but I'm certain he did. Same as you, and same as me. The Bible says to "be ye perfect even as your heavenly Father is perfect" (Matthew 5:48). We are to be as perfect as God. Are you? If not, you are sinning. The Bible says to "love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul" (Matthew 22:37). Do you do this every second of the day? Then you are sinning.

Unless every single thought in your head, and every single thing you do is absolutely perfect - you are sinning.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Really!! So you made the judgment! Exactly what sin did Ralph commit yesterday, and today.

If you knew what sin was, You would never ask this question. Because youy would know he is right, and would not have to name a sin, you would realise we all sin everyday whether we want to admit it or not.
 

Budman

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If anyone can says people sinned yesterday, today and tomorrow, they are not human but claiming to be God.
Nope. Just going by the book. :)
 

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There are a lot of sins in the body that is not to lead to death, but any spiritual sin will cost you a seat in the lake of fire.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Have no idea what sins he committed, but I'm certain he did. Same as you, and same as me. The Bible says to "be ye perfect even as your heavenly Father is perfect" (Matthew 5:48). We are to be as perfect as God. Are you? If not, you are sinning. The Bible says to "love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul" (Matthew 22:37). Do you do this every second of the day? Then you are sinning.

Unless every single thought in your head, and every single thing you do is absolutely perfect - you are sinning.
Amen, As Jesus said, 2 commands encompass all the law and prophets.

Love the lord your God with all your heart all your mind and all your soul.

and love your neighbor (which includes everyone, even those who curse you, or take advantage of you, or cut you off on the highway or want to rob you beat you or kill you)

and we have to do this 24/7 failure to do so is failure to live up to Gods standard. As james said, if we break the LEAST, we are guilty of ALL..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If anyone says they have not sinned yesterday are not sinning today and will nto sin tomorrow do not know the book.

Their pride needs proken, and they need to repent.
 

Budman

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As james said, if we break the LEAST, we are guilty of ALL..
Exactly! But trying to get them to admit they sin every day is like pulling teeth, or trying to catch a greased pig. :D
 
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NoNameMcgee

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There are a lot of sins in the body that is not to lead to death, but any spiritual sin will cost you a seat in the lake of fire.
all sins lead to the lake of fire

even 1 lie

1 sin of any sort

you deserve hell

and it is only by the imputed righteousness of Jesus we can be saved


this is given to a who are born again
 
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eternally-gratefull

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There are a lot of sins in the body that is not to lead to death, but any spiritual sin will cost you a seat in the lake of fire.

So spiritual sins were not redeemed on the cross? When jesus said it is finished he lied? Not sure I understand what you are saying
 

Budman

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There are a lot of sins in the body that is not to lead to death, but any spiritual sin will cost you a seat in the lake of fire.

If we have even a single sin attributed to us, we are damned.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Exactly! But trying to get them to admit they sin every day is like pulling teeth, or trying to catch a greased pig. :D

Of course not. Their pride muster be broken.

in the meantime, they will call you and I arrogant, Pridefull and claim we think we are God. Because they just do not understand what sin is. And have no desire to learn, because they may have to admit they are wrong,.
 

Budman

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Of course not. Their pride muster be broken.

in the meantime, they will call you and I arrogant, Pridefull and claim we think we are God. Because they just do not understand what sin is. And have no desire to learn, because they may have to admit they are wrong,.
Amen my brother. You take away their main weapon - accusing us of sinning to make grace abound, while they act holier than thou and guiltless.
 

Gabriel2020

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Yes, all sins were redeemed on the cross.,but spiritual sin is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost that leads to death. That means denying it's existence, it's actions, and the power of God. Also to turn away from the faith.