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The simplicity in christ.
dont make things so hard.
I just see it like this,
if denying christ is done when we sin, then the only way we can not deny christ is to be sinless.
if however, denying christ,. And faith are not equal, I can have a lack of faith, and still not deny christ, and just be a child who still lacks some faith.
If denying is faith based, then the verses contradict,
if i deny christ (lack of faith) he will deny me, so if i am faithless, god will not be faithfull.
dont make things so hard.
I just see it like this,
if denying christ is done when we sin, then the only way we can not deny christ is to be sinless.
if however, denying christ,. And faith are not equal, I can have a lack of faith, and still not deny christ, and just be a child who still lacks some faith.
If denying is faith based, then the verses contradict,
if i deny christ (lack of faith) he will deny me, so if i am faithless, god will not be faithfull.
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your right, there is one way, there is also only one faith (although that faith varies from greats faith to weak faith)
Your either saved or your not saved, if your saved your secure, if your unsaved, as john said, your bin a state of condemnation already (always have been) because you had no faith.
there is no inbetween,,
Your either saved or your not saved, if your saved your secure, if your unsaved, as john said, your bin a state of condemnation already (always have been) because you had no faith.
there is no inbetween,,
Dull of spirit?
With the baptism of Holy Spirit, how can we be dull of Spirit?
Stunned, deny Him is not in the original manuscript. Him was added. That makes the thought different. There is the beginning of faith. If we deny? There's the choice of the unbeliever, will we say yes to the Lord. Then it's says if we are faithless He remains faithful.
Look at the Greek. Please!
Then concerning mustard seed faith. A small seed, but a bush that cannot be stamped out! Why?
Because of the rooting system. This plant has roots that go down to depths said to be 23 feet. Plus so many tiny tendrils, it's just impossible to root them out.
Its a picture the Lord Himself gave us. Apparently, He knew what would come at us.
This scripture just came to me. The last sentence.
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
With the baptism of Holy Spirit, how can we be dull of Spirit?
Stunned, deny Him is not in the original manuscript. Him was added. That makes the thought different. There is the beginning of faith. If we deny? There's the choice of the unbeliever, will we say yes to the Lord. Then it's says if we are faithless He remains faithful.
Look at the Greek. Please!
Then concerning mustard seed faith. A small seed, but a bush that cannot be stamped out! Why?
Because of the rooting system. This plant has roots that go down to depths said to be 23 feet. Plus so many tiny tendrils, it's just impossible to root them out.
Its a picture the Lord Himself gave us. Apparently, He knew what would come at us.
This scripture just came to me. The last sentence.
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
ONE MORE TIME! They Never were part of the BRIDE, if they leave. That act PROVES they NEVER had a Genuine Relationship with JESUS CHRIST as LORD. You are counting non-Born Again Church goers as part of the BRIDE. THEY ARE NOT AND NEVER WERE! Taking up space on a pew does NOT make you a Born Again Christian, any more than sitting in a garage would make you a Car.
1 John 2:19 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.
1 John 2:19 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.
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Dear Sir, Eternally-grateful is a kind and loving person. Casting a shadow of wrong doing over E-g and a whole group (small?) of brother's and Sister's in the Lord is both shameful and bearing false witness. I personally have never even met you and then you call us all, "a cohort of self-appointed inquisitors." and you are 73yrs of age.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 10:27-30, "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; neither will any man snatch them out of My hand. My Father, Who gave them to Me, is greater than all; and no man is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand: I and My Father are in accord."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."[/FONT]
So when all else fails we question the salvation of another. 
[SUP]13 [/SUP] “Enter through the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the road is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who go through it.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] How narrow is the gate and difficult the road that leads to life, and few find it.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] You’ll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
[SUP]17 [/SUP] In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] A good tree can’t produce bad fruit; neither can a bad tree produce good fruit.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] So you’ll recognize them by their fruit.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ⌊only⌋ the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?’
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
In context, this passage relates to the fact that the Pharisees had continuously denied Jesus while the disciples continued to speak about Him in every city they visited. We might paraphrase His teaching this way: "Whoever confesses me before men (such as you disciples), I will confess him before my Father in heaven. But whoever denies me before men (like the Pharisees), I will deny him before my Father in heaven.
Those who confess Jesus are those who recognize Him as being the true Messiah and trust in Him as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation. Those who deny Jesus (and those who give mere lip service confession) but refuse to trust in Him alone for salvation place themselves beyond any possibility of salvation, since salvation is found only in Him (John 3:15,16,18; 10:9; 14:6).
The word for "deny" is an aorist tense. This points to the fact that Jesus is not talking about a single instance of denial (as was the case with Peter, who actually denied Jesus three times (Luke 22:56-62) but is referring to life in its entirety. Hence, the person who throughout his life denies Christ (as was typically the case with the Pharisess and includes unbelievers who may even give mere "lip service confession" - Matthew 7:21-23, but lack saving faith in Christ) will be denied by Christ before the Father.
Those who confess Jesus are those who recognize Him as being the true Messiah and trust in Him as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation. Those who deny Jesus (and those who give mere lip service confession) but refuse to trust in Him alone for salvation place themselves beyond any possibility of salvation, since salvation is found only in Him (John 3:15,16,18; 10:9; 14:6).
The word for "deny" is an aorist tense. This points to the fact that Jesus is not talking about a single instance of denial (as was the case with Peter, who actually denied Jesus three times (Luke 22:56-62) but is referring to life in its entirety. Hence, the person who throughout his life denies Christ (as was typically the case with the Pharisess and includes unbelievers who may even give mere "lip service confession" - Matthew 7:21-23, but lack saving faith in Christ) will be denied by Christ before the Father.
He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end.I know that there is nothing better for them than to rejoice and to do good in one’s lifetime; moreover, that every man who eats and drinks sees good in all his labor—it is the gift of God.
That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by. Furthermore, I have seen under the sun that in the place of justice there is wickedness and in the place of righteousness there is wickedness. I said to myself, “God will judge both the righteous man and the wicked man,” for a time for every matter and for every deed is there. I said to myself concerning the sons of men, “God has surely tested them in order for them to see that they are but beasts.” For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same. As one dies so dies the other; indeed, they all have the same breath and there is no advantage for man over beast, for all is vanity. All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust. Who knows that the breath of man ascends upward and the breath of the beast descends downward to the earth? I have seen that nothing is better than that man should be happy in his activities, for that is his lot. For who will bring him to see what will occur after him?
I neither agree or disagree or take sides with this fight, but for the edification of readers, it is important that we show them all the verses that go with the one.
That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by. Furthermore, I have seen under the sun that in the place of justice there is wickedness and in the place of righteousness there is wickedness. I said to myself, “God will judge both the righteous man and the wicked man,” for a time for every matter and for every deed is there. I said to myself concerning the sons of men, “God has surely tested them in order for them to see that they are but beasts.” For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same. As one dies so dies the other; indeed, they all have the same breath and there is no advantage for man over beast, for all is vanity. All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust. Who knows that the breath of man ascends upward and the breath of the beast descends downward to the earth? I have seen that nothing is better than that man should be happy in his activities, for that is his lot. For who will bring him to see what will occur after him?
I neither agree or disagree or take sides with this fight, but for the edification of readers, it is important that we show them all the verses that go with the one.