"Not by works" - false!
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Dearest @posthuman I designed this panel following our discussions yesterday
Thank you for the inspiration and for your love of God's Word
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God will separate the wheat from the tares and the sheep from the goats, and we can have faith that He knows what He is doing and that all will be accomplished according to His good plan on His timetable. As to Egypt, they had many false gods including Pharaoh who was likewise considered to be a god, and who hardened his heart multiple times against God even after all the plagues that were sent on his land and his people. Yes God did harden his heart, yet Pharaoh had already hardened it multiple times himself before God did that, and we are specifically told it was for the purpose of showing forth His supremacy and the ultimate impotence of false idols in the face of His power.
The first plague, turning water into blood, revealed the impotence of Khnum, the
guardian of the river, Hapi, the spirit of the Nile, and Osiris, whose blood was the Nile.
The second plague, the frogs, revealed the impotence of Hapi and Heket,
who were symbolized by frogs and were related to Egyptian fertility rites.
The third plague, that of lice, revealed the impotence of Seb, the earth god.
The fourth plague, that of flies, revealed the impotence of Uatchit, the god of flies.
The fifth plague, the disease on cattle, revealed the impotence of Ptah,
Mnevis, Hathor, and Amon, Egyptian gods associated with bulls and cows.
The sixth plague, the plague of boils, revealed the impotence of Sekhmet,
the goddess of epidemics, and Imhotep, the god of healing.
The seventh plague, the hail mixed with fire, revealed the impotence of Nut, the sky goddess,
Isis and Seth, Egyptian agricultural deities, and Shu, the god of the atmosphere, weather, and sky.
The eighth plague, the swarms of locusts, revealed the impotence
of Serapia, the deity who was to protect Egypt from locusts.
The ninth plague, that of darkness, revealed the impotence of Re,
Amon-re, Aten, Atum, and Horus, all of who were related to the sun.
Finally, the tenth plague, the death of the firstborn sons of Egypt, revealed
the impotence of Pharaoh himself, who was worshiped as a deity in Egypt.
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The first plague, turning water into blood, revealed the impotence of Khnum, the
guardian of the river, Hapi, the spirit of the Nile, and Osiris, whose blood was the Nile.
The second plague, the frogs, revealed the impotence of Hapi and Heket,
who were symbolized by frogs and were related to Egyptian fertility rites.
The third plague, that of lice, revealed the impotence of Seb, the earth god.
The fourth plague, that of flies, revealed the impotence of Uatchit, the god of flies.
The fifth plague, the disease on cattle, revealed the impotence of Ptah,
Mnevis, Hathor, and Amon, Egyptian gods associated with bulls and cows.
The sixth plague, the plague of boils, revealed the impotence of Sekhmet,
the goddess of epidemics, and Imhotep, the god of healing.
The seventh plague, the hail mixed with fire, revealed the impotence of Nut, the sky goddess,
Isis and Seth, Egyptian agricultural deities, and Shu, the god of the atmosphere, weather, and sky.
The eighth plague, the swarms of locusts, revealed the impotence
of Serapia, the deity who was to protect Egypt from locusts.
The ninth plague, that of darkness, revealed the impotence of Re,
Amon-re, Aten, Atum, and Horus, all of who were related to the sun.
Finally, the tenth plague, the death of the firstborn sons of Egypt, revealed
the impotence of Pharaoh himself, who was worshiped as a deity in Egypt.
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What is the gospel aside from the Truth embodied in God's Son, Who gave His life that we can attain to life ever after and be reconciled to Him by grace through faith in His shed righteous blood on our behalf due to His everlasting, unfailing love? God is more than capable of revealing Himself through His eternal Living Word to those who are not exposed to the revealed written Word.
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"16In the past, he let all nations go their own way. 17Yet he has not left himself without testimony: He has shown kindness by giving you rain from heaven and crops in their seasons; he provides you with plenty of food and fills your hearts with joy.” - Acts 17:16-17
"13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)" - Romans 2:13-15
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"13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)" - Romans 2:13-15
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How can God wished ALL should be saved
... if faith cometh by hearing the gospel
.... and we know ALL do not hear the gospel ????
Your answer is unclear.
Are you saying one does not need to hear the gospel to be saved?
Are you saying one who has not heard the gospel can be saved by his righteousness. (His works)????
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How can God wished ALL should be saved
... if faith cometh by hearing the gospel
.... and we know ALL do not hear the gospel ????
Your answer is unclear.
Are you saying one does not need to hear the gospel to be saved?
Are you saying one who has not heard the gospel can be saved by his righteousness. (His works)????
???????
How can God wished ALL should be saved
... if faith cometh by hearing the gospel
.... and we know ALL do not hear the gospel ????
Please provide scripture to verify your claim that "God can and does talk to people" about salvation as salvation is the context of my question. I assume God's talk to those that have not heard the gosple is about salvation? Can you tell us of people who have not heard the gospel that "God talks to" and about that conversion? Did God tell them about Christ?
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Agreed ... NO ONE SEEKS GOD. The will of all those whom God did not select is not changed and they go to hell as a result.
Agreed. The word is never received unless the Spirit first regenerates the person thus changing their will. Since God has chosen to save people by the hearing of the gospel, none that have not heard the gospel are regenerated. All remain spiritually dead.
... if faith cometh by hearing the gospel
.... and we know ALL do not hear the gospel ????
Please provide scripture to verify your claim that "God can and does talk to people" about salvation as salvation is the context of my question. I assume God's talk to those that have not heard the gosple is about salvation? Can you tell us of people who have not heard the gospel that "God talks to" and about that conversion? Did God tell them about Christ?
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Agreed ... NO ONE SEEKS GOD. The will of all those whom God did not select is not changed and they go to hell as a result.
Agreed. The word is never received unless the Spirit first regenerates the person thus changing their will. Since God has chosen to save people by the hearing of the gospel, none that have not heard the gospel are regenerated. All remain spiritually dead.