Mount Zion revealed.

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Why would God need to express it in another way through you when it's already very clear in the Bible?

You're not the only one who communicates with God. We ALL have the Holy Spirit to tell us Himself.


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No.It's a spiritual truth that's I'm trying to show you.God calls the firmament heaven.The firmament separates the waters that are below from the waters that are above.

Us and everything you see with the naked eye ,including everything beyond space that which can be seen,if it were possible to get there,is the waters below the firmament.

And every that is unseen with the physicals eyes that we have no understanding of is the waters above the firmament.
 
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The OP has invented his own take on Mount Zion, which has no support in Scripture.
1 Peter 2:6
Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Hebrews 12:22-28
But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem
, and to an innumerable company of angels,

To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
 
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1 Peter 2:6
Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Hebrews 12:22-28
But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem
, and to an innumerable company of angels,

To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
The author of Hebrews agrees with me.Can I ask you what you believe I'm saying?
 
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Why would God need to express it in another way through you when it's already very clear in the Bible?

You're not the only one who communicates with God. We ALL have the Holy Spirit to tell us Himself.


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Can't you also explain what you think I'm saying?
 

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Can't you also explain what you think I'm saying?

No. You tend to draw the attention back to yourself and not God. Smh....

I have the Holy Spirit and the Bible. All that needs to be understood of God and His ways have already been laid out in His word. I don't need your new age "insight" and won't give it anymore attention by explaining what I think you're saying.


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No. You tend to draw the attention back to yourself and not God. Smh....

I have the Holy Spirit and the Bible. All that needs to be understood of God and His ways have already been laid out in His word. I don't need your new age "insight" and won't give it anymore attention by explaining what I think you're saying.



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You don't have the slightest clue so you're resorting to personal attacks.
The title of my thread is Mount Zion revealed.Scripture says that Zion/heaven/New Jerusalem,whatever you want to call it,is within.
I used part of my testimony to illustrate how it happens.Just like how things happened in scripture physically,it happen spiritually
to me.And you, and everyone else reading this.

Physically,
God entered my mind.
His word's made me believe.
I repented and He gave me a change of heart.


Ecclesiastes 1:9
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be
; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Take this verse and read what I said about Moses coming down the Mountain and what I've said about Jesus becoming flesh and dwelt among men.

Don't read the other stuff,yet,till if you understand what I'm talking about.

You seem to think that I'm preaching things you need in order for you to be saved.
Which isn't true.I'm trying to show you what happens in the Spirit.It's not something new.
 

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Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
Where does it say that your body is the Ark, and a door, and also Mount Zion? Isn't that what you posted? "How our body is a Ark and how it is a door, and how it is Mount Zion.

Also, this verse is speaking about Christ. But there is a Mount Zion in the New Jerusalem in Heaven.
 
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Where does it say that your body is the Ark, and a door, and also Mount Zion? Isn't that what you posted? "How our body is a Ark and how it is a door, and how it is Mount Zion.

Also, this verse is speaking about Christ. But there is a Mount Zion in the New Jerusalem in Heaven.
We agree that the verse mentioned is speaking of Jesus.Hebrews 12:22-28 is talking about all those who believe in the testimony of Jesus are entering the Holy City.

and in Luke 17:21 Jesus himself says the Kingdom of God is within.

To enter the kingdom in heaven,it starts with a thought.For me,it was when I picked up the Bible from the dresser.
And something like this happen.

Revelation 14:1
“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

I had the Word of God on my mind.His name is the Word of God.It was written in my forehead.

That's what Revelation 14 means by having God's name written on the foreheads of the 144,000.

So what I'm getting at is that the Kingdom of heaven comes at the renewing of the mind.
Because our brain is shaped like a stone with a cleft,that's the chief corner stone.
They look like two stone tablets.The word of God was 'written' on them.Spiritually speaking.

I'll get to the other stuff tomorrow.
Do you understand what I'm trying to say in this post?
 
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We agree that the verse mentioned is speaking of Jesus.Hebrews 12:22-28 is talking about all those who believe in the testimony of Jesus are entering the Holy City.

and in Luke 17:21 Jesus himself says the Kingdom of God is within.

To enter the kingdom in heaven,it starts with a thought.For me,it was when I picked up the Bible from the dresser.
And something like this happen.

Revelation 14:1
“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

I had the Word of God on my mind.His name is the Word of God.It was written in my forehead.

That's what Revelation 14 means by having God's name written on the foreheads of the 144,000.

So what I'm getting at is that the Kingdom of heaven comes at the renewing of the mind.
Because our brain is shaped like a stone with a cleft,that's the chief corner stone.
They look like two stone tablets.The word of God was 'written' on them.Spiritually speaking.

I'll get to the other stuff tomorrow.
Do you understand what I'm trying to say in this post?
Spiritually,this is like Moses on the mountain.After reading his word,God separated me from the unbelievers like he commands us to.
He separated the waters that were below from the waters that were above with the firmament called heaven in Genesis 1:8.
God called the firmament itself heaven,in Genesis.
The word of God is a firmament.
Kingdom of heaven within.
 
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Spiritually,this is like Moses on the mountain.After reading his word,God separated me from the unbelievers like he commands us to.
He separated the waters that were below from the waters that were above with the firmament called heaven in Genesis 1:8.
God called the firmament itself heaven,in Genesis.
The word of God is a firmament.
Kingdom of heaven within.
Have to mention this part since we're talking about repentance.So now those who went through this,are in Noahs Ark,
symbolically speaking.
You are above the waters below. And Noaks Ark is the word of God.You are walking on the waters.
 
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Colossians 1:16-20
For by him
were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
 
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So you are in Noah's Ark, and you are reaching your hands down the waters below and pulling people out,and into the Ark.
 
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So you are in Noah's Ark, and you are reaching your hands down the waters below and pulling people out,and into the Ark.
And the amazing part about this is that your hands are two stone tablets also.
All things were created by him,for him.All things consist by him.He reconciles all things unto himself.
He does this by his Spirit,water,blood.That's what this scripture is saying.
 
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So you are in Noah's Ark, and you are reaching your hands down the waters below and pulling people out,and into the Ark.
Sorry.I'm busy right now.
And also symbolically you are like a merchant sailing the seas with your treasures.
The ones who you put up into Noahs Ark are your treasures.Those are the people who repent and believe you when you testify of Jesus.
The Word of God is the true treasure,but it's in you.You are a witness to it.Those who you pull out from the waters below are also witnesses to it.


Matthew 6:19-21
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.


But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven.For where your treasure is,there will your heart be also.

Win souls.That's the game.For where your treasure is,there will your heart be also.Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

As above so below.But Babylon as no love in it.There's no light in it.
 

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Sorry.I'm busy right now.
And also symbolically you are like a merchant sailing the seas with your treasures.
The ones who you put up into Noahs Ark are your treasures.Those are the people who repent and believe you when you testify of Jesus.
The Word of God is the true treasure,but it's in you.You are a witness to it.Those who you pull out from the waters below are also witnesses to it.

Matthew 6:19-21
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven.For where your treasure is,there will your heart be also.

Win souls.That's the game.For where your treasure is,there will your heart be also.Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

As above so below.But Babylon as no love in it.There's no light in it.
Lifted, are you okay?
 
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Lifted, are you okay?
There's a firmament is my head.What doe's the firmament do?It's a separates.The world of God separates us from the world.This is the kingdom of God within.

Now I'm not not saying this is you.because God will give this person something,and another person something else.Then we come together as a Church as one,Right?
But there's people who will hear me speaking these things and think it's foolish.
 
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There's a firmament is my head.What doe's the firmament do?It's a separates.The world of God separates us from the world.This is the kingdom of God within.

Now I'm not not saying this is you.because God will give this person something,and another person something else.Then we come together as a Church as one,Right?
But there's people who will hear me speaking these things and think it's foolish.
Because I'm speaking things that are from above and they're from below.
 
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This is the part where Moses comes down in the spirit.He came down to the foot of Mountain.Mount Sinai.
If the top of the mountain is your head,the foot of the mountain will be your feet.
There's things going on here while this happens that mirrors scripture in the OT.But from above,in the spirit.
On earth as it is in heaven,scripture states.I'll explain some of it.

When he comes down to the foot of the mountain to a stiff necked people,that is us.

He's holding the tablets in his hands.What I mean by this is that our mind has his Word 'written' on it.We are thinking on his Word.
And something is happening with our Pineal Gland. It's 'lit' up just like how the face of Moses was lit by being in the presence of the Spirit of the Lord.

The Pineal Glands function has to do with our sleep and awake cycles.So the same thing is happening above in the heaven.,
in the spiritually asleep and spiritually awake.

I hope this is understand able :LOL:.I gotta cook now.Brb.