Mental Illness

[persistent]

I am making no concrete judgment here but mainly looking at factors.

It's like after Adam and Eve SINNED and generations of Sin are compounded to a cause and effect, look at all of the birth defects other than mental Illness like attracted to same sex and not being fully developed correctly and many other possible outcomes.

It seems if there was no SIN these would be non issues. But because of Sin, and added to generations of Sin look at how things have changed.

I truly believe had Adam and Eve not SINNED no child would have ever been born defective.

But because they did Sin followed by generations of Sin these are now the cause and effect of that Sin.

For a 19th century preacher Spurgeon was ahead of his time. He didn't come right out and say they were sinning, but he was criticizing business of his day for contaminating certain foods. He mentioned cutting pepper with red lead. Whether people knew about the effects of lead on humans at that time I don't know but we know the effects now. So this practice could have had a serious impact on the society of that time and would that impact future generations? Other practices were also mentioned which possibly had far reaching effects. Another source that hits on the ill effects of certain industries is the writings of Charles Dodgson, aka Lewis Carroll, in referring to the 'mad hatter' he is indicating effects of lead on haberdashers. Maybe generational sins can be seen in father to son business practices?

 

[Aaron56]

I left the Mental Health field after 23 years. I was first a practitioner and then an executive.

I'd be glad to answer any questions.

 

[wattie]

I am making no concrete judgment here but mainly looking at factors.

It's like after Adam and Eve SINNED and generations of Sin are compounded to a cause and effect, look at all of the birth defects other than mental Illness like attracted to same sex and not being fully developed correctly and many other possible outcomes.

It seems if there was no SIN these would be non issues. But because of Sin, and added to generations of Sin look at how things have changed.

I truly believe had Adam and Eve not SINNED no child would have ever been born defective.

But because they did Sin followed by generations of Sin these are now the cause and effect of that Sin.

There is a difference between mental illness and disability. Illness isn't initially at least to do with a physical, permanent disfunction so much as a change in chemicals in the brain leading to affects on the mood.

These chemical changes in the long run can lead to actually the brain getting long lasting physical damage, and then Illness becomes disability.

Disability is associated with the likes of downs syndrome, autism and asperges, prada willi, fetal alcohol syndrome etc.. where the brain and/or other parts of the body is missing things or is damaged from the start.

For the case of disability, this can be the result of sin from past generations coming thru a new born baby. Although downs syndrome is often related to a woman having a child later in life and that affecting the baby.

I used to work with intellectual disability and as a volunteer in mental health support.

But yeah.. thanks for the encouraging replies.

 

[BreatheFocusBet]

Well like you posted there are alot of factors that contribute to somebody becoming mentally ill.

At the moment in my life:

*lost my job
*trying to break an addiction
*have renewed issues with my eyesight
*am dealing with the after affects of recovering from food poisoning.
*have hurt my back

So its an alert/danger time for me for mental illness developing.

This though is not 'generational' it's my own life factors.

I think this post is for you as well,

God bless

 

[studentoftheword]

The_Watchers_2017 said ---- would be fortunate if others would share their thoughts towards this Topic. Do YOU believe Mental Illness is a condition of Generational SIN?

My view

I personally think we need to understand 2 things ----what the Generational Curse is ----and what God's curses are ---these are 2 separate things -------

I believe mental illness is a curse-------- but not a generational curse------ and I also believe that some mental illness is cause by Satan as well ------

The curses in Deuteronomy 18 apply to unbelievers today and these are from God to people who disobey His Word --------and madness and confusion of the mind is one of the curses ------this stands today Folks ------I just posted this below --SEE VERSE 28 below -----------there is much more to read on the curses for disobeying God =----read all for yourselves if you so wish ----

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 28:15-68&version=NIV

Deuteronomy 28:15-68

New International Version
Curses for Disobedience
15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:

16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.

17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.

18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.

20 The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.[a]

21 The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess.

22 The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish. 23 The sky over your head will be bronze, the ground beneath you iron.

24 The Lord will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed.

25 The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth.

26 Your carcasses will be food for all the birds and the wild animals, and there will be no one to frighten them away.

27 The Lord will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured.

28 The Lord will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind.

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The Generational Curse has to do with Iniquity ----it is not the sin that is passed on ---it is Iniquity ----which is the Character of the sin ------not the sin itself

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/sin/what-is-iniquity-meaning-and-importance-in-the-bible.html

Definition of Iniquity
As found in the Bible, “iniquity” is defined as being wicked or immoral in nature or character. Primarily, it indicates "not an action, but the character of an action", and is so distinguished from "sin". Therefore, we have the phrase "the iniquity of my sin" (Psalms 32:5). Iniquity can be described as the essence of wrongdoing or evil, while sin is this quality actually enacted in the world.


“For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments” (Deuteronomy 5:9-10)

Hebrew - English Dictionary
H5766 - Iniquity
Strong's No.:H5766Hebrew:עֶוֶלTransliteration:ʻevelPhonetic:eh'-velWord Origin:From H5765Bible Usage:{iniquity} {perverseness} unjust ({-ly}) unrighteousness ({-ly}) wicked (-ness).Part of Speech:Noun

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I say
This is what is passed on to future Generations -----it is the perverse ---unjust ----unrighteousness --and wicked Nature ----it is the Character of the sin -----it is not the sin itself that is passed on --------


Deuteronomy 24:16 - The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

 

[Dino246]

Do YOU believe Mental Illness is a condition of Generational SIN?

SOME mental illness is likely the result of generational sin. I would reject the idea that all of it is.

 

[Evmur]

Mental Illness, Psychological Disorder, whatever term available is broken down into categories based on behavior traits that all arrive from the brain.

But I wish to discuss a Biblical reasoning for how Mental Illness begins within any given human being.

Yes, we can find fault in the use of medications during pregnancy, there's also environmental problems that can lead to a developing fetus becoming mentally ill, there's smoking and drinking during pregnancy, there's accidental conditions like a trauma created by a fall or vehicle collision or many other possible factors, and some Mental Illness can be formed from physical and mental abuse which can be found in several narcissistic patients. The fact is there's many possible ways someone could become mentally ill including Genetics.

But when I look at these possible factors, I see something very distinct. I can see SIN.

I see SIN from environmental issues because of how greedy humans dealt with certain chemicals, I see SIN from the medications of greedy manufacturers telling pregnant women their baby would be safe, look at the metal content discovered in baby food causing Autism and other issues, I also see SIN from a pregnant woman choosing to drink and smoke during pregnancy, I see SIN in Genetics.

I see so much possible ways how SIN created cause and effect it made me realize that ultimately Mental Illness is a condition of Generational SIN that is mentioned over and over in the Holy Word of God.

Another reason I believe this is Generational SIN because every human I ever met dealing with Autism, Narcissism, Asperger, Psychological Disorder has believed I suffer Mental Illness for believing in GOD. That really strikes me odd. These people have been medically diagnosed and live in a literal alternative world but believe people who think GOD is real are straight up nuts and off their rockers.

Generational SIN seems to explain this the best.

I would be fortunate if others would share their thoughts towards this Topic. Do YOU believe Mental Illness is a condition of Generational SIN?

all my kith and kin gave up all hope for my sanity many years ago just when they think I am getting better I start talking about Jesus.

 

[oyster67]

It's an interesting topic. Jer 31:29 may exist as a turning point where it no longer applied.

"In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge." - Jer 31:29 KJV

I believe that, until this future time comes, we will need to be born again because of the sin imputed upon us through Grandfather Adam's fall.

At the very least we can't expect handicaps like blindness, deafness, etc. to be the result of sin.

I believe that they are the result of Adam's sin. We are all born in need of being cured. All who receive spiritual healing will eventually receive bodily healing as well. God has very good plans for each and every one of His children.

 

[oyster67]

all my kith and kin gave up all hope for my sanity many years ago just when they think I am getting better I start talking about Jesus.

We be your new kith and kin, brother.

It's OK to be crazy about Jesus!