Mary, the Ark of the New Covenant
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Nowhere do the Apostles , who have expounded Scripture in their Epistles as well as reveal that which was hidden in the OT, nowhere do they teach any thing coming close to linking Mary with the Ark. This, as well as other heretical teachings, can only be falsely deduced by the faulty reasoning of mankind...a prime example of what happens when one poo-poos sola scriptura.
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the ark of the covenant is not an old testament type of mary...it just doesn't fit... for one thing...the ten commandments were never to be taken out of the ark...if this prefigured mary then mary would have never actually given birth to jesus...
if anything the ark of the covenant is a type of jesus...the word of God taking on human flesh...and if anything in the old testament is a type of mary it would more likely be the tabernacle...the tent that temporarily contained the ark of the covenant...
i also should point out that the argument given here for the perpetual virginity of mary is pretty much blasphemous... mary and joseph were married...if joseph was no longer permitted to 'touch' mary because she had given birth to a child conceived by the holy spirit...then that would basically mean God stole a man's wife... so this doctrine really attributes adulterous behavior to God and mary...
if anything the ark of the covenant is a type of jesus...the word of God taking on human flesh...and if anything in the old testament is a type of mary it would more likely be the tabernacle...the tent that temporarily contained the ark of the covenant...
i also should point out that the argument given here for the perpetual virginity of mary is pretty much blasphemous... mary and joseph were married...if joseph was no longer permitted to 'touch' mary because she had given birth to a child conceived by the holy spirit...then that would basically mean God stole a man's wife... so this doctrine really attributes adulterous behavior to God and mary...
Mary has kept herself pure in heart and the bloodline from what she had came from was purely hebrew descent which means that her bloodline in which she had came from was also pure in order to had created someone that is pure. so I guess she was that last of the Mohicans. Now it has branched to another branch, that can produce many fruits. I know Mary had children afterward; but her heart had stayed pure. That's what God look at.
1 Samuel 16:7
But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
1 Samuel 16:7
But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
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If Jesus would have come from a sinless Mary He would
not have fit the role of a kinsman redeemer.
But His genealogy represented all mankind. She
could not have been sinless according to her genealogy
and could not have been the ark either.
His flesh was the Ark. The tabernacle also
represented Jesus. Mary was His mother yes.
Also the perpetual virginity doesnt even need to be
there. After Jesus birth it would no longer matter
even to the argument.
not have fit the role of a kinsman redeemer.
But His genealogy represented all mankind. She
could not have been sinless according to her genealogy
and could not have been the ark either.
His flesh was the Ark. The tabernacle also
represented Jesus. Mary was His mother yes.
Also the perpetual virginity doesnt even need to be
there. After Jesus birth it would no longer matter
even to the argument.
MARTIN LUTHER, ABOUT MARY
Hello Tintin.
Your spiritual father, Martin Luther, disagrees with you.
Here's what Martin Luther, the father of Protestantism, had to say about Mary...
"The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart."
- Martin Luther (Sermon, September 1, 1522)
"She is the highest woman and the noblest gem in Christianity after Christ . . . She is nobility, wisdom, and holiness personified. We can never honor her enough. Still honor and praise must be given to her in such a way as to injure neither Christ nor the Scriptures."
- Martin Luther (Sermon, Christmas, 1531)
"One should honor Mary as she herself wished and as she expressed it in the Magnificat. She praised God for his deeds. How then can we praise her? The true honor of Mary is the honor of God, the praise of God's grace . . . Mary is nothing for the sake of herself, but for the sake of Christ . . . Mary does not wish that we come to her, but through her to God."
- Martin Luther (Explanation of the Magnificat, 1521)
Furthermore, Luther gives the Blessed Virgin the exalted position of "Spiritual Mother" for all Christians, and she is of course the Mother of God:
"It is the consolation and the superabundant goodness of GOD, that man is able to exult in such a treasure. Mary is his true Mother."
- Martin Luther (Sermon, Christmas, 1522)
"Mary is the Mother of Jesus and the Mother of all of us even though it was Christ alone who reposed on her knees . . . If he is ours, we ought to be in his situation; there where he is, we ought also to be and all that he has ought to be ours, and his mother is also our mother."
- Martin Luther (Sermon, Christmas, 1529)
Mary is free from the stain of original sin. Martin Luther also taught this...
"It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary's soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God's gifts, receiving a pure soul infused by God; thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin"
- Martin Luther (Sermon: "On the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God," 1527)
"She is full of grace, proclaimed to be entirely without sin- something exceedingly great. For God's grace fills her with everything good and makes her devoid of all evil."
- Martin Luther (Personal {"Little"} Prayer Book, 1522)
Next we'll see what Martin Luther had to say about Mary's perpetual virginity...
Hello Tintin.
Your spiritual father, Martin Luther, disagrees with you.
Here's what Martin Luther, the father of Protestantism, had to say about Mary...
"The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart."
- Martin Luther (Sermon, September 1, 1522)
"She is the highest woman and the noblest gem in Christianity after Christ . . . She is nobility, wisdom, and holiness personified. We can never honor her enough. Still honor and praise must be given to her in such a way as to injure neither Christ nor the Scriptures."
- Martin Luther (Sermon, Christmas, 1531)
"One should honor Mary as she herself wished and as she expressed it in the Magnificat. She praised God for his deeds. How then can we praise her? The true honor of Mary is the honor of God, the praise of God's grace . . . Mary is nothing for the sake of herself, but for the sake of Christ . . . Mary does not wish that we come to her, but through her to God."
- Martin Luther (Explanation of the Magnificat, 1521)
Furthermore, Luther gives the Blessed Virgin the exalted position of "Spiritual Mother" for all Christians, and she is of course the Mother of God:
"It is the consolation and the superabundant goodness of GOD, that man is able to exult in such a treasure. Mary is his true Mother."
- Martin Luther (Sermon, Christmas, 1522)
"Mary is the Mother of Jesus and the Mother of all of us even though it was Christ alone who reposed on her knees . . . If he is ours, we ought to be in his situation; there where he is, we ought also to be and all that he has ought to be ours, and his mother is also our mother."
- Martin Luther (Sermon, Christmas, 1529)
Mary is free from the stain of original sin. Martin Luther also taught this...
"It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary's soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God's gifts, receiving a pure soul infused by God; thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin"
- Martin Luther (Sermon: "On the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God," 1527)
"She is full of grace, proclaimed to be entirely without sin- something exceedingly great. For God's grace fills her with everything good and makes her devoid of all evil."
- Martin Luther (Personal {"Little"} Prayer Book, 1522)
Next we'll see what Martin Luther had to say about Mary's perpetual virginity...
The ark of the covenant is a shadow of Jesus Christ himself. He is the vessel that brought the new covenant into the world. The tablets of law, the manna, and Aaron's rod in the ark of the covenant signify that Jesus' was selected by GOD to be high Priest; that Jesus lived by every word of GOD; and that he was the embodiment of the righteousness of the law.
The idea that Mary is the ark is just silly.
The idea that Mary is the ark is just silly.
Actually, Jesus IS the Word of GOD, the Living Word, in the old testament, and the new.
Christian theology 101. The Word of God was not the ark, but contained inside the ark. The ark is a vessel, not the Word. You are confusing the two.
And refusing to understand or even trying to comprehend the parallels between the old and new covenants is simply short sighted.
The idea that Mary is the ark of the new covenant is beautiful and wonderful and divine, not "silly". And it's not just an idea. Open your heart.
God is awesome like that.
Christian theology 101. The Word of God was not the ark, but contained inside the ark. The ark is a vessel, not the Word. You are confusing the two.
And refusing to understand or even trying to comprehend the parallels between the old and new covenants is simply short sighted.
The idea that Mary is the ark of the new covenant is beautiful and wonderful and divine, not "silly". And it's not just an idea. Open your heart.
God is awesome like that.
Christ is the fulfillment of many shadows in the OT. The 10 commandments are not the whole word of GOD; they symbolize his righteousness. The ark was a vessel; Jesus is a vessel.
The ark resided in the holiest place, as does Christ now in heaven. No man could see the uncovered ark in the holiest place without dying, except for the high priest once a year. And once at the end of the age the uncovered ark of the new covenant in the holiest place in heaven will be revealed to the world just before GOD pours out his wrath on them.
And the temple of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant appeared in his temple, and there were lightnings and sounds and thunders and an earthquake and large hail. Revelation 11:19
To suggest that this refers to Mary is pretty untenable and, yes, silly.
The ark resided in the holiest place, as does Christ now in heaven. No man could see the uncovered ark in the holiest place without dying, except for the high priest once a year. And once at the end of the age the uncovered ark of the new covenant in the holiest place in heaven will be revealed to the world just before GOD pours out his wrath on them.
And the temple of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant appeared in his temple, and there were lightnings and sounds and thunders and an earthquake and large hail. Revelation 11:19
To suggest that this refers to Mary is pretty untenable and, yes, silly.
I all sounds to me like some more of man using his reasoning to make 2 and 2 equal to six. Man has always done this, even creating Gods out of his mind. If it is so or not does not affect how I love the Lord, and that is what God asks of me. If I make Mary into something she isn't, it will not go well for me for I will be trying to change God. So I am going to leave Mary alone as the woman God chose to have His son. Nothing more and nothing less.
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The ark is the center of the heart. The heart is the "most holy place". The mind is the "holy place". The temple is the body. The courtyard is your sphere of influence.
Mary and many others have the ark of the covenant inside them. There are instructions on how to make it, but you don't have to understand them.
The mercy seat is wide enough for two, one's self on the right hand of the Father. But most people pay attention only to the cubits.
Mary and many others have the ark of the covenant inside them. There are instructions on how to make it, but you don't have to understand them.
The mercy seat is wide enough for two, one's self on the right hand of the Father. But most people pay attention only to the cubits.
Once again you are confusing the ark for what is INSIDE of the ark. It was what was inside the ark, when it was uncovered - revealing its contents, that brought forth "lightnings and sounds and thunders and an earthquake and large hail." The scripture that you posted verifies this very thing. This is no mystery, HeRose.
The ark itself was harmless. A vessel for what was contained inside of it.
btw, You quoted Revelation. Read Revelation some more. Go deeper.
The Ark appears in God's temple, followed in the very next verse by a description of Mary giving birth to Jesus Christ.
'Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant...
A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head... She gave birth to a son, a male child (Jesus Christ), who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”'
Rev 11:19, 12:1
The ark itself was harmless. A vessel for what was contained inside of it.
btw, You quoted Revelation. Read Revelation some more. Go deeper.
The Ark appears in God's temple, followed in the very next verse by a description of Mary giving birth to Jesus Christ.
'Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant...
A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head... She gave birth to a son, a male child (Jesus Christ), who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”'
Rev 11:19, 12:1
Revelation 11:19 doesn't say the ark was uncovered; it says the temple was opened and the ark seen. When I said uncovered I meant without its fabric cover that was draped over it during transport so the people would not see it and die; I did not mean without its lid, or mercy seat.
The ark was harmless? Tell that to Uzzah:
And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth [his hand] to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook [it]. And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for [his] error; and there he died by the ark of God. 2 Samuel 6:6-7
The ark was the holiest vessel of the tabernacle, just as Jesus is the holiest vessel of the new temple.
The ark was harmless? Tell that to Uzzah:
And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth [his hand] to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook [it]. And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for [his] error; and there he died by the ark of God. 2 Samuel 6:6-7
The ark was the holiest vessel of the tabernacle, just as Jesus is the holiest vessel of the new temple.
That is God killing him for his disobedience. The ark was not fatal to his touch, HeRose. Try to comprehend these scriptures that you post. Uzzah disobeyed God by laying his hand on the ark, and God punished him for it, for his disobedience, "God smote him there for his error". Killing him right then and there for doing what he was commanded by God not to do.
You are confusing things again.
You are confusing things again.
Mary is ans was absolutely blessed to carry our Savior Christ, being a virgin his birth thus he was born a life-giving Spirt, and it wasd to become Father's ministry through the Son Jesus Christ.
Now whether she remained a Virgin or not is not an eternal issue. Christ dying and bein risen to life on the third day is the way, the truth , and the life. Mary definatley blessed and her Job was to carry the Son to earth Birth, and when Christ was born her hy-men was then broke and can't from the time of birth of the Savior, could not ne a virgin any longer even if she still had no sex after with any man.
Regardless mention new Covenant, but we not only got a new Covenant, which came to be by the death at the cross Hebrews 9:15-17, we also got new laws, the Laws of Love, which are not in the ten Commandments, and we got a new priesthood not in the order of Aarron
Hebrews 7:11[ Need for a New Priesthood ] Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
Hebrews 7:12For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
Hebrews 9:15And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
And if you will notice after Mary gave birth and raised Christ, her Job was done and ther is no mention that she is the way to being saved, or anyone else except Christ is the way the truth and the loife, no one gets to the Father except by Christ
John 14:6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
And I thank God for mother Mary, explicidly, but she is not the way to salvation, a vehicle used to brikng Christ into this world
Luke 8:21But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
[h=3]Matthew 12:47-49[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]47 [/SUP]Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
[SUP]48 [/SUP]But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” [SUP]49 [/SUP]And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers!
I tell you so much to learn and discern, yet no matter what, Christ is the way, the truth and the life, the life is in his resurrection for us those that believe
Thank you for your post, and thank you for your regard for Mary, yet who is the most important here above all
Colossians 1:16
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him
Colossians 2:15Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
Everything in old and new all point to the Christ. So who is it we are to worship? and yes let us be thankful forall the Saints that lead us to Christ our salvation
Now whether she remained a Virgin or not is not an eternal issue. Christ dying and bein risen to life on the third day is the way, the truth , and the life. Mary definatley blessed and her Job was to carry the Son to earth Birth, and when Christ was born her hy-men was then broke and can't from the time of birth of the Savior, could not ne a virgin any longer even if she still had no sex after with any man.
Regardless mention new Covenant, but we not only got a new Covenant, which came to be by the death at the cross Hebrews 9:15-17, we also got new laws, the Laws of Love, which are not in the ten Commandments, and we got a new priesthood not in the order of Aarron
Hebrews 7:11[ Need for a New Priesthood ] Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
Hebrews 7:12For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
Hebrews 9:15And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
And if you will notice after Mary gave birth and raised Christ, her Job was done and ther is no mention that she is the way to being saved, or anyone else except Christ is the way the truth and the loife, no one gets to the Father except by Christ
John 14:6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
And I thank God for mother Mary, explicidly, but she is not the way to salvation, a vehicle used to brikng Christ into this world
Luke 8:21But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
[h=3]Matthew 12:47-49[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]47 [/SUP]Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
[SUP]48 [/SUP]But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” [SUP]49 [/SUP]And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers!
I tell you so much to learn and discern, yet no matter what, Christ is the way, the truth and the life, the life is in his resurrection for us those that believe
Thank you for your post, and thank you for your regard for Mary, yet who is the most important here above all
Colossians 1:16
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him
Colossians 2:15Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
Everything in old and new all point to the Christ. So who is it we are to worship? and yes let us be thankful forall the Saints that lead us to Christ our salvation