LIVING IN THE MILLENIA

[Truth7t7]

You know Truth7t7,
Scripture says God rules in the kingdoms of men and when we read of how he patiently gave people time to repent before destroying them because if wickedness, it should start to become clear that when Jesus walked on earth, he was really reigning over mankind in mercy, just as his Father does.

Do you believe this earth will be literally destroyed by the Lords fire at his return 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Do you believe in a future eternal kingdom in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, as seen in Revelation Chapters 21-22?

 

[GraceAndTruth]

No I didn't miss your point. Satan is only bound from deceiving the gentiles (the "nations") who place their faith in Jesus. Faith in our Lord is all that is necessary to expose the devil as a liar. And Jesus's command to go to all nations with the gospel was so people would know the truth.

people who place their faith in Jesus <----your quote
I would like to point out that both Jews and Gentiles who have that faith

Then by all means show your proof.

Where do you want me to start? It is a huge subject....what do you want me to post to your first?

 

[GraceAndTruth]

We are to give correction when it is needed and I don't care if you attack or name call me but when it comes to others I will not hesitate to correct those who foolishly name call mock or attack others.
You have given scripture yes but without understanding the scriptures and for the most part you have only given your opinions without actual evidence and when you do try to with scripture you use scripture that doesn't even fit the context.

I am no stranger to your type of thinking you think yourself to have understanding when in reality you lack thereof you just are to blind to see it, you speak your truth on a matter but are unable to listen and learn from others you easily can cherry pick scriptures but fail to see the picture as a whole and you are crude in your responces because you lack the maturity and love of the spirit

The reason for all of this is because you think yourself right when sometimes it is better to think yourself wrong and lacking in order to grow to have understanding, unless you humble yourself you will become as the pharisees and no I do not expect you to listen to my advice I am aware you cannot be reasoned with but I do hope one day God may work in your heart and you will remember these words.

right back at ya
I'm rubber you are glue.....everthing you say bounces off me and sticks to you

 

[Journeyman]

Do you believe this earth will be literally destroyed by the Lords fire at his return 2 Peter 3:10-13?

I believe Jesus coming in fire purifies this earth. He transforms what will remain and burns up what won't remain.

Do you believe in a future eternal kingdom in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, as seen in Revelation Chapters 21-22?

Of course, but the Kingdom is here already. It just hasn't been remewed yet.

 

[Journeyman]

people who place their faith in Jesus <----your quote
I would like to point out that both Jews and Gentiles who have that faith

Yes, one body in Christ.

 

[Truth7t7]

I believe Jesus coming in fire purifies this earth. He transforms what will remain and burns up what won't remain.

Of course, but the Kingdom is here already. It just hasn't been remewed yet.

We will disagree

Scripture clearly teaches this earth will be (Dissolved) by fire and replaced, not renewed.

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[Journeyman]

We will disagree

Scripture clearly teaches this earth will be (Dissolved) by fire and replaced, not renewed.

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

You might be right about this point. I do believe after the final judgement, the unsaved will no longer exist, but the saved are changed.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

We will disagree

Scripture clearly teaches this earth will be (Dissolved) by fire and replaced, not renewed.

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Scripture is always right. Our understanding may be fallible, but the scriptures always stand.

 

[Blain]

people who place their faith in Jesus <----your quote
I would like to point out that both Jews and Gentiles who have that faith


Where do you want me to start? It is a huge subject....what do you want me to post to your first?

If you claim Nero was the antichrist and that the tribulation has already happened then show his history and show all the things he did that the scriptures say that the man of sin will do.
unless you haven't read or studied it the antichrist man of sin man of lawlessness whatever you want to call him will come to the scene with the false prophet and will decieve many he will bring forth and enforce his mark in which no man can buy or sell without but anyone who takes it will be thrown into the lake of fire when everything is said and done

He will create a new world order in which he will rule he will go into the temple in the middle of a covenant with Israel and declare himself to be God and also anyone who does not take the mark will be killed this is just some of the things that he will do not to mention all the things God says he will bring in revelation
Unless you can provide all the evidence of these things according to scripture your theory is just simply wrong

 

[Blain]

right back at ya
I'm rubber you are glue.....everthing you say bounces off me and sticks to you

And perhaps that is the problem, many here including me have already given you plenty of wise council and have scripturally provided you with evidence against your stance, personally I want you to actually learn and re evaluate your understanding but you put it best you are like rubber and rubber is not very flexible it can be but is more difficult and things bounce off it so you are unable to listen and actually learn perhaps I am like glue in the sense that things stick to me meaning I am able to actually take in wise council teaching and advice from others.

Not the best analogy but true all the same

 

[GraceAndTruth]

If you claim Nero was the antichrist and that the tribulation has already happened then show his history and show all the things he did that the scriptures say that the man of sin will do.
unless you haven't read or studied it the antichrist man of sin man of lawlessness whatever you want to call him will come to the scene with the false prophet and will decieve many he will bring forth and enforce his mark in which no man can buy or sell without but anyone who takes it will be thrown into the lake of fire when everything is said and done

He will create a new world order in which he will rule he will go into the temple in the middle of a covenant with Israel and declare himself to be God and also anyone who does not take the mark will be killed this is just some of the things that he will do not to mention all the things God says he will bring in revelation
Unless you can provide all the evidence of these things according to scripture your theory is just simply wrong

No I do NOT claim Nero is antichrist......I have given tons of evidence that that is no THE antichrist......antichrist is not one peson but any and all persons who deny the FAther and the Son.

Don't post any premill false teaching to me, I am not interested.....been there, did that then found truth.

 

[Ahwatukee]

AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE.........Nero committed suicide with the help of his senate.
as the story goes, Nero was attempting to comply with the Senate's request....but was a bit reluctant, so as he stood there with a knife at his throat.......... I believe Cassius and Brutus (his good friend) struck first blows (et to Brutus? famous last word of Nero that everyone is familiar with.

My point is/was that scripture is clear that the antichrist/beast is judged when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age by being thrown into the lake of fire. Therefore Nero could not be the antichrist/beast because he committed suicide and that regardless of how he accomplished it or if anyone helped him. Simply put, Nero was not killed by the brightness of the Lord's return which is still future.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

My point is/was that scripture is clear that the antichrist/beast is judged when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age by being thrown into the lake of fire. Therefore Nero could not be the antichrist/beast because he committed suicide and that regardless of how he accomplished it or if anyone helped him. Simply put, Nero was not killed by the brightness of the Lord's return which is still future.

believer whatever you want

 

[Truth7t7]

right back at ya
I'm rubber you are glue.....everthing you say bounces off me and sticks to you

No debate, try providing a argument with scripture.

 

[Truth7t7]

If you claim Nero was the antichrist and that the tribulation has already happened then show his history and show all the things he did that the scriptures say that the man of sin will do.
unless you haven't read or studied it the antichrist man of sin man of lawlessness whatever you want to call him will come to the scene with the false prophet and will decieve many he will bring forth and enforce his mark in which no man can buy or sell without but anyone who takes it will be thrown into the lake of fire when everything is said and done

He will create a new world order in which he will rule he will go into the temple in the middle of a covenant with Israel and declare himself to be God and also anyone who does not take the mark will be killed this is just some of the things that he will do not to mention all the things God says he will bring in revelation
Unless you can provide all the evidence of these things according to scripture your theory is just simply wrong

The Antichrist and his Kingdom will be tormented by (Plagues) from the (Two Witnesses) as you falsely disregard the Plagues in judgement,a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt.

Revelation 11:3-6KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Revelation 9:3-5KJV
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

 

[Blain]

The Antichrist and his Kingdom will be tormented by (Plagues) from the (Two Witnesses) as you falsely disregard the Plagues in judgement,a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt.

Revelation 11:3-6KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Revelation 9:3-5KJV
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

I didn't falsely disregard it I was in a huge hurry because I was going to be late to my doctor appointment so I made a hasty post

 

[Blain]

believer whatever you want

So now you just resort to dumb remarks then? Out of evidence to stand against scripture maybe?

 

[Truth7t7]

I didn't falsely disregard it I was in a huge hurry because I was going to be late to my doctor appointment so I made a hasty post

I have watched your postings for weeks, and you remain silent on the (Two Witnesses) as you elevate the (Antichrist)

The two witnesses will bring all plagues seen in the book of Revelation, 5 months of torment, men desiring to die and they cant, noisome sores, water to blood, scorching heat, darkness in pain, as the world worships before the churches feet present on earth as seen in Rev 3:9 below.

A complete remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, no Hebrews were running scared, no plague came upon the Hebrews, it's going to be a replay.

As you continue to elevate the (Antichrist) in pushing fear falsely.

Revelation 3:9KJV
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Revelation 11:3-6KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Revelation 9:3-5KJV
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Revelation 16:1-11KJV
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

 

[Blain]

I have watched your postings for weeks, and you remain silent on the (Two Witnesses) as you elevate the (Antichrist)

The two witnesses will bring all plagues seen in the book of Revelation, 5 months of torment, men desiring to die and they cant, noisome sores, water to blood, scorching heat, darkness in pain, as the world worships before the churches feet present on earth as seen in Rev 3:9 below.

A complete remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, no Hebrews were running scared, no plague came upon the Hebrews, it's going to be a replay.

As you continue to elevate the (Antichrist) in pushing fear falsely.

Revelation 3:9KJV
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Revelation 11:3-6KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Revelation 9:3-5KJV
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Revelation 16:1-11KJV
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

Yes the two witnesses are used to bring them but not by their own power it comes from God which is why I said in my post to grace the things God will bring.
However I do not elevate the antichrist I speak about him yes but I would prefer you didn't phrase it as to elevate as if he was being put on a higher standard and I certainly do not push fear do you see anyone here who is afraid because I am debating about the antichrist?
I remain silent for the most part on the two witnesses because I have not done that much research on them so I am not going to talk about that which I do not know.

 

[Truth7t7]

I remain silent for the most part on the two witnesses because I have not done that much research on them so I am not going to talk about that which I do not know.

I appreciate your honesty, I have started a thread on the (Two Witnesses) waiting approval.

Does The Scripture Below Teach The Antichrist Is In Control?

The two witnesses will bring all plagues seen in the book of Revelation, 5 months of torment, men desiring to die and they cant, noisome sores, water to blood, scorching heat, darkness in pain, as the world worships before the churches feet present on earth as seen in Rev 3:9 below.

A complete remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, no Hebrews were running scared, no plague came upon the Hebrews, it's going to be a replay.

Revelation 3:9KJV
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Revelation 11:3-6KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Revelation 9:3-5KJV
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Revelation 16:1-11KJV
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.