Let's play Bible Trivia!

[TheDivineWatermark]

Oh, and to answer your last "Trivia Question" (may as well play along, while I'm here ) is:

Smyrna and Philadelphia



[by the way, I believe Romans 2:29 is speaking of JEWS who are Jews INWARDLY ("he is a Jew who IS ONE inwardly...")... the context not speaking of something like "Gentiles BECOME Jews once they come to faith/become saved/etc"... or the like (so Rev2:9 and 3:9 understood in this light)]


Ooo… does this mean I have to come up with another "Trivia Question" now? eeks. I'll have to think of one... might take too long... anyone wanna go ahead of me, it's perfectly fine with me...

 

[Deade]

^ [edit to add] Something like a 256-yr difference (between what Hebcal shows, and the actual Hebrew year [as of the time of the writing of that article, awhile back... some years back])


So, I was saying that Nisan 10 [per Ex12:3-6 (the selection and following examination of the lamb)] was on Palm Sunday... making Nisan 14 to be Thursday of that week.

Where is your scriptural proof that the 10th was on Sunday, because the pope said so?

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Here's another brief excerpt... I'll get to your other question later as soon as I have some more free time :


From Sir Robert Anderson in "The Coming Prince" - pg 96 of 158 -

https://whatsaiththescripture.com/Text.Only/pdfs/The_Coming_Prince_Text.pdf

"And here again we must keep to Scripture. Though God has nowhere recorded the Bethlehem birth-date of Christ, no date in history, sacred or profane, is fixed with greater definiteness than that of the year in which the Lord began His public ministry. I refer of course to Luke 3:1, 2. I say this emphatically, because Christian expositors have persistently sought to set up a fictitious date for the reign of Tiberias. The first Passover of the Lord's ministry, therefore, was in Nisan A.D. 29; and we can fix the date of the Passion with absolute certainty as Nisan A.D. 32. If Jewish or infidel writers set themselves to confuse and corrupt the chronology of these periods, we would not be surprised. But it is to Christian expositors that we owe this evil work. Happily, however, we can appeal to the labors of secular historians and chronologists for proofs of the divine accuracy of Holy Scripture."


[end quoting; bold and underline mine]

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[quoting again]

"5. The Julian date of 1st Nisan 445 was the 14th March.
6. Sixty-nine weeks of years — i.e. 173, 880 days — reckoned from the 14th March B.C. 445, ended on the 6th April A.D. 32.
7. That day, on which the sixty-nine weeks ended, was the fateful day on which the Lord Jesus rode into Jerusalem in fulfillment of the prophecy of Zechariah 9:9; when, for the first and only occasion in all His earthly sojourn, He was acclaimed as "Messiah the Prince the King, the Son of David." "

[end quoting; same source, 95-96]


[again, Hebcal does not show correct date that year]

 

[Deade]

Question: How many men did David leave at the brook Besor while pursuing the Amalekites that had sacked Ziklag

 

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he reigned as Caesar from 14 to 37 AD so his fifteenth year would have been 29 AD. This is the earliest year in which Jesus could have been baptized, but is not necessarily the exact year

Your conclusion is dependent on this being accurate.. I would not trust that the information about the year of the start of the reign of Caesar is accurate.

So for me i would trust in the 30 AD timing based on accurate astronomical information now available. The week of the Passover in 30 AD aligns accurately with the account of the week of the execution of Jesus..

Passover .. Day 4 ends on Wednesday sunset.
High Sabbath of the first day of Unleavened bread.. Day 5 Ends on Thursday sunset
Normal day.. Ends on Friday sunset
Weekly 7th day Sabbath.. Ends on Saturday Sunset.. This is when Jesus was raised from the dead..

 

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Question: How many men did David leave at the brook Besor while pursuing the Amalekites that had sacked Ziklag View attachment 189237

He left 200 men there..

Question:: How many Years did Paul wait after receiving the truth on the road to Damascus before going to Jerusalem to visit Peter and the Apostles there?

 

[Mountaindude28]

The Biblical day founded by God is not the same as our days.. The Biblical day starts at sundown and ends at the following sundown.. So the true Passover starts at Sundown and Jesus had His Passover meal at the correct time.. Jesus had his Passover meal on the night of Passover and then was executed on the day of Passover..

Genesis 1: KJV
5 "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."

I see your point but it is off a little. Remember, one of the stipulations that the High Priests wanted Yeshua dead so quickly was BEFORE Passover. If your answer is true, then the Priests clearly failed. But how do we have further proof, well:

a) Yeshua died before the High Shabbat (John 19:31)
b) If Yeshua is the Passover Lamb, you cannot eat a Passover meal until the Lamb is killed. Yeshua was killed on "Preparation Day" or "Erev Pesach" (John 19:31)
c) The Greek word "arton" in Luke 22:19 = bread. If Passover started, it is a biblical command NOT to eat bread (leavened food). This is not only a biblical sin, but it is a BIG transgression in the Torah. Thus, Yeshua could not be sinless if this was so. What you do eat on Passover is Matzah but Yeshua didn't break Matzah.
d) If Yeshua died on Passover, then all the Priests and every Jew sinned that day because it is a Sabbath and thus no work can be done, especially killing on one of the 3 pilgrimage festivals.


There is more but it would take more explanation. But these points alone should make the point very clear. I agree 100% of G-d's day. I hope this helps.

 

[Deade]

He left 200 men there..

Question:: How many Years did Paul wait after receiving the truth on the road to Damascus before going to Jerusalem to visit Peter and the Apostles there?

Three years!

Jonathan and his armour bearer used what sign from the Lord to attack the Philistine garrison outside Gibeah?

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Your conclusion is dependent on this being accurate.. I would not trust that the information about the year of the start of the reign of Caesar is accurate.

So for me i would trust in the 30 AD timing based on accurate astronomical information now available. The week of the Passover in 30 AD aligns accurately with the account of the week of the execution of Jesus..

Passover .. Day 4 ends on Wednesday sunset.
High Sabbath of the first day of Unleavened bread.. Day 5 Ends on Thursday sunset
Normal day.. Ends on Friday sunset
Weekly 7th day Sabbath.. Ends on Saturday Sunset.. This is when Jesus was raised from the dead..

I think I've mentioned this before, but I also take into consideration what is stated in 1 Corinthians 15:20 [blb] -

"20 But now Christ has been raised out from the dead, the firstfruit [G536 - aparchē ] of those having fallen asleep."


...thus fulfilling "Firstfruit" ON the very day of His Resurrection [I believe He "[actively] ascended" that very day, as well, by the way (per His words to MM)], according to Leviticus 23:10-12, which states,

"10 “Speak to the Israelites and say, ‘When you enter the land I am giving you and reap its harvest, you are to bring to the priest the sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest. 11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD so that it may be accepted of your behalf; the priest is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath. [i.e. on "Firstfruit"]
12 On the day you wave the sheaf, you shall offer a year-old lamb without blemish as a burnt offering to the LORD,"


More later... I'm in a rush to get somewhere

 

[Deade]

...thus fulfilling "Firstfruit" ON the very day of His Resurrection [I believe He "[actively] ascended" that very day, as well, by the way (per His words to MM)], according to Leviticus 23:10-12, which states,

You argue the resurrection was on a Sunday, but it was actually on a Saturday evening. Christ was buried just before sundown: and 3 days/3 nights add up to a just before sundown resurrection. Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday. The Romans said it was Friday because of the sundown Sabbath was approaching. But it says in John 19:14 it was the preparation day (crucifixion day) which is the day before the annual Sabbath of the First Day of Unleavened Bread. Ask any Jew what the preparation day is. An annual Sabbath is called a high day.

John 19:31: "The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

John 20:1: "The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre."

Three days and three nights raises Him on Saturday evening. He had already risen unseen by early Sunday. Jesus was talking with Mary saying he had not ascended to His Father yet:

John 20:16-18: “Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.”

John 20:19: “Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.”

Later that same day He appeared to His disciples and they could touch Him. That is when He told Thomas to touch His wounds and then He ate with them. So, we can say for sure the ascension was on Sunday. We are given a picture of His ascension as the wave sheaf day: [look up wave sheaf day for yourself] when the first fruits were waved before God as a tribute. This was always done on the first Sunday after Passover.

Before Sundown Wednesday – before Sundown Thursday – Day 1

Before Sundown Thursday – before Sundown Friday – Day 2

Before Sundown Friday – before Sundown Saturday – Day 3

Three days and three nights raises Him on Saturday evening before sundown. He had already risen unseen by early Sunday.

 

[memyselfi]

I watched a documentary today on the 'Dust Bowl".... Making a valid question... After how many years does G-d command us to let the Earth rest?

 

[memyselfi]

What two Books in the Bible do not mention G-d's name?

Ester and Song of Songs or Solomon.

 

[Deade]

I watched a documentary today on the 'Dust Bowl".... Making a valid question... After how many years does G-d command us to let the Earth rest?

We are commanded to let the land rest one in seven years. That is why we have to use pesticides and fertilizer because we don't obey God.

 

[Deade]

How often is the year of jubilee and what does it entail?

 

[memyselfi]

How often is the year of jubilee and what does it entail?

It is the sabbatical year after 7 cycles of 7 years, so the 50th year. It entails a lot... release of indebtedness and all types of bondage. All debts, captives/slaves set free, property owners returned the land to original owners, no labor and labor contracts were released for the year, All land and people were to rest for one year.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

You argue the resurrection was on a Sunday, but it was actually on a Saturday evening. Christ was buried just before sundown: and 3 days/3 nights add up to a just before sundown resurrection. Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday. The Romans said it was Friday because of the sundown Sabbath was approaching. But it says in John 19:14 it was the preparation day (crucifixion day) which is the day before the annual Sabbath of the First Day of Unleavened Bread. Ask any Jew what the preparation day is. An annual Sabbath is called a high day.

John 19:31: "The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

John 20:1: "The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre."

Three days and three nights raises Him on Saturday evening. He had already risen unseen by early Sunday. Jesus was talking with Mary saying he had not ascended to His Father yet:

John 20:16-18: “Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.”

John 20:19: “Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.”

Later that same day He appeared to His disciples and they could touch Him. That is when He told Thomas to touch His wounds and then He ate with them. So, we can say for sure the ascension was on Sunday. We are given a picture of His ascension as the wave sheaf day: [look up wave sheaf day for yourself] when the first fruits were waved before God as a tribute. This was always done on the first Sunday after Passover.

Before Sundown Wednesday – before Sundown Thursday – Day 1

Before Sundown Thursday – before Sundown Friday – Day 2

Before Sundown Friday – before Sundown Saturday – Day 3

Three days and three nights raises Him on Saturday evening before sundown. He had already risen unseen by early Sunday.

I did supply the scripture reference you are directing me to see in Leviticus. I'm just saying that "FIRSTFRUIT of the resurrection" [1Cor15:20] (that is, His RESURRECTION day) fell on "Firstfruit" ("on the morrow after the Sabbath" - Lev23:10-11).

Here is a quote (the most succinct I could find on the subject. Caveat: this doesn't mean I endorse everything at this site or the author's other writings, as I am not very familiar with it on the whole, but this quote [and article here] does at least make the point that I earlier referred to):

[quoting]

"Here are the facts of the matter. Only the yeear 32 A.D fits the bill. Timespans terminating in 30 A.D., 31 A.D., 33 A.D. or 34 A.D. just won’t cut it. Timespans ending in 31 A.D. and 33 A.D. land in Nisan months that occur too early in the year to fit the 173,880 days. And these timelines actually begin in embolismal years. So they start late. These make for Nisan to Nisan timelines that are too short. They are lot long enough to fit in the required number of days for the 69 weeks(sevens) of years. Timespans other than the timespan which terminates in 32 A.D. simply cannot accommodate this long 173,880 day period which overflows 25 days beyond the 476 years.

"We can see that only the timespan #2, beginning in the year 445 B.C. and terminating in 32 A.D. will fit. This is the timespan advanced by Sir Robert Anderson in his classic work, ‘The Coming Prince’. Only this timeline will succeed in connecting into two Nisan moons, the beginning Nisan moon being the one for Nehemiah and the ending Nisan moon being the one for the Passover of our Lord’s crucifixion."

--Gavin Finley M.D. , http://oneyahweh.com/w/index.php/2009/03/12/32-a-d-was-the-crucifixion-year/

[end quoting]

[bold and underline mine, except for the word "begin" where bold is original]


[I also consider the wording in John 12:1-2 (along with Matt26:13 and its related Matt24:14 which will take place in the future trib years)… but that's the subject for a different thread ]

 

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I see your point but it is off a little. Remember, one of the stipulations that the High Priests wanted Yeshua dead so quickly was BEFORE Passover. If your answer is true, then the Priests clearly failed. But how do we have further proof, well:

a) Yeshua died before the High Shabbat (John 19:31)
b) If Yeshua is the Passover Lamb, you cannot eat a Passover meal until the Lamb is killed. Yeshua was killed on "Preparation Day" or "Erev Pesach" (John 19:31)
c) The Greek word "arton" in Luke 22:19 = bread. If Passover started, it is a biblical command NOT to eat bread (leavened food). This is not only a biblical sin, but it is a BIG transgression in the Torah. Thus, Yeshua could not be sinless if this was so. What you do eat on Passover is Matzah but Yeshua didn't break Matzah.
d) If Yeshua died on Passover, then all the Priests and every Jew sinned that day because it is a Sabbath and thus no work can be done, especially killing on one of the 3 pilgrimage festivals.


There is more but it would take more explanation. But these points alone should make the point very clear. I agree 100% of G-d's day. I hope this helps.

They wanted Jesus dead before the High Sabbath of the first day of Unleavened bread.. That was the yearly Sabbath that they did not want Jesus to be hanging on the cross during.. Because it is a curse to have someone hanging on a Sabbath.. The feast of unleavened bread lasts 7 days and has a Sabbath on the first day and the last day.. This feast starts on the day after Passover..

The Jews because of their traditions of men, changed the time they prepared Passover and ate Passover and from what i know they are still eating their passover meal on the wrong night.. They should be having their Passover meal on the day of Passover but they are having it at the start of the next day, the first day of the feast of unleavened bread.. They should be Torah compliant as Jesus and His apostles where by preparing their meal and having it at the start of the Passover at sunset the start of the Passover day.. So the Jews where breaking the Passover Law by having their meal at the wrong time..

Passover itself is not a Sabbath.. there is no call for no work to be done on that day.. It cannot be a Sabbath because it is also a preparation day for the First day of unleavened bread which is a Sabbath where no work shall be done..

Leviticus 23: KJV
4 "¶ These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. {5} In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD’S passover. {6} And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. {7} In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. {8} But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein."

These days where No servile Work was to be done are linked to dates of a month not linked to a certain day of the week.. So these Sabbaths can happen on any day of the week depending on what year it is..

PS:: Note in the above verse 5, which mentions the Passover it does not include the stipulation that no servile work was to be done on the passover therefore the Passover is not a Sabbath..

 

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Three years!

Jonathan and his armour bearer used what sign from the Lord to attack the Philistine garrison outside Gibeah?

1 Samuel 14: KJV
6 "And Jonathan said to the young man that bare his armour, Come, and let us go over unto the garrison of these uncircumcised: it may be that the LORD will work for us: for there is no restraint to the LORD to save by many or by few. {7} And his armourbearer said unto him, Do all that is in thine heart: turn thee; behold, I am with thee according to thy heart. {8} Then said Jonathan, Behold, we will pass over unto these men, and we will discover ourselves unto them. {9} If they say thus unto us, Tarry until we come to you; then we will stand still in our place, and will not go up unto them. {10} But if they say thus, Come up unto us; then we will go up: for the LORD hath delivered them into our hand: and this shall be a sign unto us."

Next question: Who killed the Brother of Goliath who was like his brother,, a giant?
Bonus point if you are able to give the name of Goliath's brother..

 

[Lafftur]

Question: Of the 7 churches addressed in Revelation 2, 3, which two have nothing bad spoken of them View attachment 189220

Hello Deade,

I know Philadelphia is one of the two. I'm not sure of the other............hmmmm

My guess for the other would be Pergamum?

 

[Deade]

Hello Deade,

I know Philadelphia is one of the two. I'm not sure of the other............hmmmm

My guess for the other would be Pergamum?

No, devinewatermark answered in post #2681: It was Smyrna and Philadelphia.