Just so you know. Daniel 7:25
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There is a warning in scripture about Paul's writings, so we need to study his writings very carefully and make sure we are not using them to teach against what Jesus taught because if we miss what he is trying to say, it comes with some steep warnings, we should take serious.
2 Peter 3:15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
So lets examine Col 2:16-17.
The context starts before this so lets bring it in so we can try to figure what Paul is saying here and is he teaching something different than Jesus taught, or is there more to the story than the single verse everyone uses.
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
So we know from these verses Paul is referring to the following
1. something handwritten
2. ordinances
3. was contrary and against
4. nailed to the cross
So if this referring to any of the Ten Commandments?
1. Was the Ten Commandments handwritten?
No: Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.
2. Was the Ten Commandments called ordinances?
NO: 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
3. Was the Sabbath contrary and against?
NO: Holy and blessed by God is not the definition of contrary and against
Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
4. Was the Sabbath nailed to the Cross?
No! Jesus in His own Words taught the Sabbath would be kept by His faithful decades after the Cross and until the second coming of Jesus Christ Mat 2:20 The Sabbath continues in the New Heaven and New Earth for His saints Isa 66:22-23
So what is Paul referring to.
There is more than one sabbath in the scripture and Paul made it so clear what he was referring to never countermanding Christ on what He taught or how he lived and what even Paul taught as he kept every Sabbath faithful as well Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 etc
Where does Paul get the words "... against us ... contrary to us..." from, in the context of the passages he is quoting from in the Old Testament, and what does it mean there?
Deuteronomy 31:26 KJB - Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
Deuteronomy 31:28 KJB - Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them.
Deuteronomy 30:19 KJB - I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Paul is referring to what was written in the book of the law handwritten by Moses set outside the ark as witness against.
The Ten Commandments finger written by God was placed inside the ark of the covenant and we are blessed when keeping Rev 22:14
What were the ordinances
Deuteronomy 31:26 KJB - Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.";
Colossians 2:14 "handwriting of ordinances";
Ephesians 2:15 "the law of commandments contained in ordinances";
Hebrews 9:1 "... also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.";
Hebrews 9:10 "... meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances ...";
Ezekiel 43:18 "... These are the ordinances of the altar in the day when they shall make it, to offer burnt offerings thereon, and to sprinkle blood thereon."
Luke 1:6 "... walking in all the commandments and ordinances ...";
Numbers 9:12 "They shall leave none of it unto the morning, nor break any bone of it: according to all the ordinances of the passover they shall keep it.";
2 Chronicles 33:8 "... to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses."]
It had to do with all the sacrificial system, animal sacrifices written in the book of the law- that all pointed to Jesus. There is no animal sacrifices in the Ten Commandments
Colossians 2 KJB, parallels Ephesians 2 KJB, and Hebrews 9-10 KJB. The language is the same. The "ordinances" in Colossians 2 deals with "shadows", such as the daily "meat and drink" offerings of a worldly sanctuary and carnal ordinances, the seasonal "feast days", the monthly "new moons", and the year based "sabbaths", in the singular, every 7 and 50th years, as Paul is citing Psalms 98:1-3; and Ezekiel 45:17 KJB with other texts.
The Sabbath of the LORD thy God is always called "my [as in God's] sabbaths", and the others in Leviticus 23:4 onward are called "your [the peoples] sabbaths" [Leviticus 26:35 KJB] which are "beside [given in addition to] the sabbaths of the LORD" [Leviticus 23:38 KJB]. The Ten Commandments, including the Sabbath of the 4th Commandment, are "light" [Proverbs 6:23, Isaiah 8:20, 51:4 KJB], never a "shadow", are "spiritual" [Romans 7:14 KJB], never "carnal" [Hebrews 9:10 KJB].
Colossians 2:14 - "ordinances"
Ephesians 2:15 - "law of commandments contained in ordinances"
Hebrews 9:1 - "ordinances of divine service"
Hebrews 9:10 - "carnal ordinances"
Colossians 2:16 - "in meat, or in drink" [offerings]
Hebrews 9:10 - "meats and drinks" [offerings]
Colossians 2:12 - "also ye are risen with him"
Ephesians 2:6 - "raised us up together"
Colossians 2:16 - "a shadow of things to come"
Ephesians 2:7 - "in the ages to come"
Hebrews 9:11 - "of good things to come"
Hebrews 10:1 - "the law having a shadow of good things to come", "those sacrifices", "offered year by
You can read more about this in detail here https://www.christianforums.com/threads/col-2-14-17-the-real-truth-from-gods-word.8021854/
2 Peter 3:15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
So lets examine Col 2:16-17.
The context starts before this so lets bring it in so we can try to figure what Paul is saying here and is he teaching something different than Jesus taught, or is there more to the story than the single verse everyone uses.
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
So we know from these verses Paul is referring to the following
1. something handwritten
2. ordinances
3. was contrary and against
4. nailed to the cross
So if this referring to any of the Ten Commandments?
1. Was the Ten Commandments handwritten?
No: Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.
2. Was the Ten Commandments called ordinances?
NO: 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
3. Was the Sabbath contrary and against?
NO: Holy and blessed by God is not the definition of contrary and against
Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
4. Was the Sabbath nailed to the Cross?
No! Jesus in His own Words taught the Sabbath would be kept by His faithful decades after the Cross and until the second coming of Jesus Christ Mat 2:20 The Sabbath continues in the New Heaven and New Earth for His saints Isa 66:22-23
So what is Paul referring to.
There is more than one sabbath in the scripture and Paul made it so clear what he was referring to never countermanding Christ on what He taught or how he lived and what even Paul taught as he kept every Sabbath faithful as well Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 etc
Where does Paul get the words "... against us ... contrary to us..." from, in the context of the passages he is quoting from in the Old Testament, and what does it mean there?
Deuteronomy 31:26 KJB - Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
Deuteronomy 31:28 KJB - Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them.
Deuteronomy 30:19 KJB - I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Paul is referring to what was written in the book of the law handwritten by Moses set outside the ark as witness against.
The Ten Commandments finger written by God was placed inside the ark of the covenant and we are blessed when keeping Rev 22:14
What were the ordinances
Deuteronomy 31:26 KJB - Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.";
Colossians 2:14 "handwriting of ordinances";
Ephesians 2:15 "the law of commandments contained in ordinances";
Hebrews 9:1 "... also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.";
Hebrews 9:10 "... meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances ...";
Ezekiel 43:18 "... These are the ordinances of the altar in the day when they shall make it, to offer burnt offerings thereon, and to sprinkle blood thereon."
Luke 1:6 "... walking in all the commandments and ordinances ...";
Numbers 9:12 "They shall leave none of it unto the morning, nor break any bone of it: according to all the ordinances of the passover they shall keep it.";
2 Chronicles 33:8 "... to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses."]
It had to do with all the sacrificial system, animal sacrifices written in the book of the law- that all pointed to Jesus. There is no animal sacrifices in the Ten Commandments
Colossians 2 KJB, parallels Ephesians 2 KJB, and Hebrews 9-10 KJB. The language is the same. The "ordinances" in Colossians 2 deals with "shadows", such as the daily "meat and drink" offerings of a worldly sanctuary and carnal ordinances, the seasonal "feast days", the monthly "new moons", and the year based "sabbaths", in the singular, every 7 and 50th years, as Paul is citing Psalms 98:1-3; and Ezekiel 45:17 KJB with other texts.
The Sabbath of the LORD thy God is always called "my [as in God's] sabbaths", and the others in Leviticus 23:4 onward are called "your [the peoples] sabbaths" [Leviticus 26:35 KJB] which are "beside [given in addition to] the sabbaths of the LORD" [Leviticus 23:38 KJB]. The Ten Commandments, including the Sabbath of the 4th Commandment, are "light" [Proverbs 6:23, Isaiah 8:20, 51:4 KJB], never a "shadow", are "spiritual" [Romans 7:14 KJB], never "carnal" [Hebrews 9:10 KJB].
Colossians 2:14 - "ordinances"
Ephesians 2:15 - "law of commandments contained in ordinances"
Hebrews 9:1 - "ordinances of divine service"
Hebrews 9:10 - "carnal ordinances"
Colossians 2:16 - "in meat, or in drink" [offerings]
Hebrews 9:10 - "meats and drinks" [offerings]
Colossians 2:12 - "also ye are risen with him"
Ephesians 2:6 - "raised us up together"
Colossians 2:16 - "a shadow of things to come"
Ephesians 2:7 - "in the ages to come"
Hebrews 9:11 - "of good things to come"
Hebrews 10:1 - "the law having a shadow of good things to come", "those sacrifices", "offered year by
You can read more about this in detail here https://www.christianforums.com/threads/col-2-14-17-the-real-truth-from-gods-word.8021854/
Matthew 2:
20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life.
Sorry - I don't see the Sabbath anywhere in that verse...
What verse did you really mean to refer to?
You are misunderstanding the 'grammar of the language' - verse 22 is an "aside" from the verses before it and after it. What verse 23 is describing does not take place after the New Heaven and New Earth is created; rather, it takes place during the Millennium. Verse 23 is a continuation from/of verse 21.
20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life.
Sorry - I don't see the Sabbath anywhere in that verse...
What verse did you really mean to refer to?
You are misunderstanding the 'grammar of the language' - verse 22 is an "aside" from the verses before it and after it. What verse 23 is describing does not take place after the New Heaven and New Earth is created; rather, it takes place during the Millennium. Verse 23 is a continuation from/of verse 21.
Matthew 2:
20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life.
Sorry - I don't see the Sabbath anywhere in that verse...
What verse did you really mean to refer to?
You are misunderstanding the 'grammar of the language' - verse 22 is an "aside" from the verses before it and after it. What verse 23 is describing does not take place after the New Heaven and New Earth is created; rather, it takes place during the Millennium. Verse 23 is a continuation from/of verse 21.
20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life.
Sorry - I don't see the Sabbath anywhere in that verse...
What verse did you really mean to refer to?
You are misunderstanding the 'grammar of the language' - verse 22 is an "aside" from the verses before it and after it. What verse 23 is describing does not take place after the New Heaven and New Earth is created; rather, it takes place during the Millennium. Verse 23 is a continuation from/of verse 21.
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day
This was Jesus predicting the destruction of Jerusalem almost 40 years after His Cross that He would have a faithful who would be keeping the Sabbath so obviously Paul is not contradicting Jesus saying the Sabbath ended at the Cross, but was referring to the sabbath(s) annual feast days that has to do with food and drink and ordinances etc. the context Col 2:14-17.
Jesus only makes one New Earth and New Heaven which is after the millennium.
Isa 66:22 “For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,” says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.
The second resurrection for the wicked does not happen until after the millennium, He makes everything new once the sinners and anyone not written in the Book of Life are destroyed. Thats when He makes a New Heaven and New Earth the old earth is cleansed by fire as shown in Rev 20, that's when He wipes away all tears.
The weekly Sabbath started at Creation when God made everything to His perfect plan. Sin separated man from God Isa 59:2 so instead of worshipping in His presence on the Sabbath, we worship Him in Spirit, when the curse is removed and He restores everything back, His saints will once again come before Him every Sabbath for worship. So the Sabbath never ended as many people teach from a thus saith the Lord- He promised not a jot or tittle can pass from His law until all is fulfilled which is when He comes on the clouds and creates a New Heaven and New Earth and no more sin or sinners, no more death, no more tears, just peace, joy and happiness. I pray we are all there.