Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.
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Luke 21:7-17
King James Version
7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
I'll be praying like Jesus in the garden of gethsemane when these things happen.
King James Version
7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
I'll be praying like Jesus in the garden of gethsemane when these things happen.
No, my friend, we are "gathered together unto Him" at the same time of "the coming of the Lord", according to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 KJV.
Right after Paul tells us of the gathering and the coming, he uses the singular noun "the day of Christ is at hand" and "that day shall not come". He doesn't say "these two different days that are separated by 7 years" -- he says "day". The gathering and the coming happen on the SAME DAY
Right after Paul tells us of the gathering and the coming, he uses the singular noun "the day of Christ is at hand" and "that day shall not come". He doesn't say "these two different days that are separated by 7 years" -- he says "day". The gathering and the coming happen on the SAME DAY
From the OT prophecies, e.g. Isaiah 41:15-16, Joel 3:17-18. But year, of course, that's "irrelevant" to you, isn't it.
Yes there is. "Absent from the Body Present with the Lord", 2 Cor 5:6. In the FIFTH seal, believers are dead, their souls are crying out for justice, and in the SIXTH seal they're worshiping and praising the Lord, 2 Cor 5:6 is perfectly fulfilled. And when did I ever suggest that they're "resurrected"? No, not yet until Lord returns at the end.
It doesn't matter because you're too dumb to understand that, and you profess to be wise and refuse to listen.
Yes there is. "Absent from the Body Present with the Lord", 2 Cor 5:6. In the FIFTH seal, believers are dead, their souls are crying out for justice, and in the SIXTH seal they're worshiping and praising the Lord, 2 Cor 5:6 is perfectly fulfilled. And when did I ever suggest that they're "resurrected"? No, not yet until Lord returns at the end.
It doesn't matter because you're too dumb to understand that, and you profess to be wise and refuse to listen.
The first to receive the Gospel were Two Gentiles in the Garden.
The Jews/Israel were not fully created/called forth until the completion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Anyone who says Matthew chapter 24 is for the Jews is a false teacher and a liar whether they know it or not.
The earthbound/unregenerate nation Israel will be revived only when the LORD Returns.
As with all nations, only a remnant is Saved.
The Jews/Israel were not fully created/called forth until the completion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Anyone who says Matthew chapter 24 is for the Jews is a false teacher and a liar whether they know it or not.
The earthbound/unregenerate nation Israel will be revived only when the LORD Returns.
As with all nations, only a remnant is Saved.
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Of course you wouldn't = you do not believe God's Word on the matter.
I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. 3For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my [a]countrymen according to the flesh, 4who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; 5of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.
Israel’s Rejection and God’s Purpose
6But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel,
7nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” 8That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. 9For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son.”
10And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac 11(for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12it was said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.” 13As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”
Israel’s Rejection and God’s Justice
14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” 18Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
19You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
22What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25As He says also in Hosea:
“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26“And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”
27Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel:
“Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
The remnant will be saved.
28For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness,
Because the Lord will make a short work upon the earth.”
29And as Isaiah said before:
“Unless the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed,
We would have become like Sodom,
And we would have been made like Gomorrah.”
30What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; 31but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law [d]of righteousness. 32Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone. 33As it is written:
“Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense,
And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
When you say Matthew ch24 is not speaking to His Saints/His Elect/His Body, you speak from the mouth of the Serpent,
you deny the word's of teh LORD Jesus Christ and are anti-christ in spirit to believe a lie = pre-trib rapture.
I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. 3For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my [a]countrymen according to the flesh, 4who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; 5of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.
Israel’s Rejection and God’s Purpose
6But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel,
7nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” 8That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. 9For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son.”
10And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac 11(for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12it was said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.” 13As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”
Israel’s Rejection and God’s Justice
14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” 18Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
19You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
22What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25As He says also in Hosea:
“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26“And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”
27Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel:
“Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
The remnant will be saved.
28For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness,
Because the Lord will make a short work upon the earth.”
29And as Isaiah said before:
“Unless the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed,
We would have become like Sodom,
And we would have been made like Gomorrah.”
30What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; 31but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law [d]of righteousness. 32Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone. 33As it is written:
“Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense,
And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
When you say Matthew ch24 is not speaking to His Saints/His Elect/His Body, you speak from the mouth of the Serpent,
you deny the word's of teh LORD Jesus Christ and are anti-christ in spirit to believe a lie = pre-trib rapture.
This could be wide span that covers the whole history of the church age, but since it's limited to that 3.5 years, then it's just the final 3.5 years given to Satan.
The first were the three thousand baptized in Acts 2:41. This is very significant because it was the reverse of three thousand unbeliving Israelistes executed at mount Sinai back in Exodus.
The first were the three thousand baptized in Acts 2:41. This is very significant because it was the reverse of three thousand unbeliving Israelistes executed at mount Sinai back in Exodus.
The Gospel was first prophesied by God to satan in the Garden in front of Adam and Eve.
Adam & Eve were then given the Gospel by the LORD, again, when HE made them a covering of animal skin.
There is no doubt that it was from a lamb as this was passed on to Abel from his parents(Adam&Eve).
Genesis is the Gospel Foretold/Prophesied.
Adam & Eve were then given the Gospel by the LORD, again, when HE made them a covering of animal skin.
There is no doubt that it was from a lamb as this was passed on to Abel from his parents(Adam&Eve).
Genesis is the Gospel Foretold/Prophesied.
There is a sense of arrogancy when someone post such a long drawn out comment, and think that people have time to just sit and read their thoughts. Is it not thoughtful to isolate your most deep thoughts, narrow them and keep them short and to the point. I don't think this forum is for your book writing or personal attention. You posted so much I got nothing.
ABSOLUTELY AGREE
The Gospel is the WORD, which all who are saved beginning with Adam & Eve, believed on and it was/is by faith in the WORD that all are saved.
'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men."
"And the Word(Gospel) became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
Can you decipher the meaning of the Color code?
PEACE my Brother and Good talking with you.
The Gospel is the WORD, which all who are saved beginning with Adam & Eve, believed on and it was/is by faith in the WORD that all are saved.
'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men."
"And the Word(Gospel) became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
Can you decipher the meaning of the Color code?
PEACE my Brother and Good talking with you.
That's what's amazing about the application of the word "WORD", logos. This is a very common word that could be referring to any piece of information, it could be the divine order of the universe, the Torah, the OT prophecies, even the messianic DNA code, but as you said, ultimately, that's the gospel.