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Can you imagine if you were postrib rapture you would have to change those verses because they blow a hole in postrib.
Yes Brother; The Harlot has to shove everything (all the numbers) into a blender and flip the switch in order to cover up what was long established doctrine of a cursed Israel. Now the potter (with Her Spin Doctors) is molding herself into a different formula, in order to adapt to a new public opinion, in order make it look as though she has now reformed herself; in other words: The tail has to follow the head of the beast, She is becoming wearied by her many councils in her latter days. Oh when we will be saying a four fold Hallelujah!!!

Divinewatermark is suggest we rely on "opinions" rather than balancing out EVERYTHING that is said here, providing everything we've learned since more and more (once stolen) and looted manuscripts started to surface, but revealing in most part what are "worked" copies; and (in most part) a little leaven added here and there. Many of these Copies are far removed from the originals (most by centuries). And the Harlot stakes the claim that we are having them because of her. Our Lord's Revelations were in the Hands of the ONE who has always been among those who are terrorized the people of this earth; building grand towers where she sits on many waters, where she has taken the plague of war, famine, biologicals plague, pestilence, in the process filling her cup with blood. So with all this said it is safe to say she has added and taken away from the word of God. She is the the Potter building towers in the blood soaked fields in foreign lands; doing these things with the proceeds of looting. Looting from the natives holding these lands from thousands of years before. But Justifying Her actions with Her Beast saying this is the price of getting the Gospel out there; Yes the price of betrayal of those whom she's conquered with every beast she could take a ride on. This was Her Riding Her Beasts taking the message of Her Campion of Anti-Semitism (Hippolytus of Rome) taking his message out into all the earth. So there is literally nothing we can say about about what we have received from the Great Harlot without a very extensive examination to pick out the leaved that is Absolutely there to be found. Firstly, Divinewatermark wanted to Show one verse as being an example of what he wants us to believe; which by the way is the long standing traditions of the Great Harlot, And these things are easy to prove once we have all the facts, and what we are showing here is just fraction of the total where all the numbers match!! To Be Continued.
Can you imagine if you were postrib rapture you would have to change those verses because they blow a hole in postrib.
 
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HERE BELOW I'M POINTING AT A WORD THAT SOUNDS AMBIGUOUS, AND THEREFORE NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED: IT'S THE WORD "until" --H6725 ʿaḏ -- THAT'S BEING USED IN THE LAST SENTENCE OF VSE. 25: "until a time and times and the dividing of time":

Dan 7:25b and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

When it should read: FOR:

"and they shall be given into his hand for a time, and times and the dividing of time" (for 3.5 years)

More Examples of correct usage: [Dan 7:12 KJV] 12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away:
yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

[Dan 6:7 KJV] 7 b --that whosoever shall ask a petition of any God or man for thirty days, save of thee,
O king, he shall be cast into the den of lions.​

Now that I'm realizing what's being exposed here by Friend, I cannot help but recall Jeremiah 8:8:

[Jer 8:8 NIV] 8 " 'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually
the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

This goes for me too, so that I can pay closer attention to this call to reality, and shake off the pride and the lust for being right "no matter what!"​
 

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Can you imagine if you were postrib rapture you would have to change those verses because they blow a hole in postrib.
Brother: look at this.

It was destined for people of the Harlot to ignore (((The Jewish Calendar Of The Law))); that from ancient times places the trumpets starting near the first part of the Seventh Month.

Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three 25 And shall speak words against the most High, and wear out the saints of the most High, (((and think to change times and laws)) and they shall be given into his hand for a time and times and the dividing of time.

So again it was destined for the Harlot to Ignore the times and laws of Israel; leaving then with no other recourse but to deny every word, calculation, and metaphor, to their own destruction.​
 

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You are basically lost in space on all things end times. An Armstrong guy. The Jewish peoples never accept a false Christ. They enter into an AGREEMENT with the European Union (the 10 that ARISE out of the head of the Fourth Beast) AND the Little Horn that arises in (the 10) Europe (born in Greece) amongst these 10 (all Europe).
Ok Brothers and Sisters out there: Here we have it again: RONDONMON IS SAYING THAT I SAID: "that the Jewish people accepted a false Christ". I did not say nothing of the Sort... Also Accusing Me Of Being "Lost In Space"

WHICH MADE ME SMILE (-:

Please read what I say in the post; because Rondonmon is lying about it every time... but this is to be expected.

And in fact the opposite is true of what I am being accused of! Even that in many of my post you will see that Israel is Exalted above all others for a thousand years. Almost every post of mine you will see that Israel is given their proper place. With The Great Harlot being Israel's Historic enemy; with the fallen Roman Empire being the 6th Beast, with the Revived Roman Empire (with the wound that was healed) being the 7th Beast/FUTURE... It is The RCC/THE GREAT HARLOT who's long standing doctrine was that of the Jerusalem and the Jewish people being the Harlot. But with the elapse of time, and the examination of profiles that can't possibly fit the Jewish people; have exonerated this often persecuted people of God. The Harlots doctrine of Anti-Semitism is long established, starting with Saint Hippolytus Of Rome; with vigorous hatred having sown the seed's of anti-Semitism throughout Europe first, before riding Her Sea-Beasts, taking the poison out into the rest of the world.​
 

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The False Prophet places the IMAGE.........READ IT HERE !!
I having to copy and paste what Rondonmon says here Heighted in BLUE. We are now copying a saving everything Rondonmon is saying to have record of it. And Rondomon I would encourage you to do the same (for future reference).

Rev. 13:11 And I beheld another beast(False Prophet) coming up out of the earth (means Israel); and he had two horns like a lamb(Jewish High Priest), and he spake as a dragon(in league with Satan/Little Horn). 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth(Israel) and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

The 1290 is the AoD and that happens 30 days before the Anti-Christ Conquers Israel. These AGREEMENTS are between Israel and the E.U. and MANY OTHER ATIOS in the Region. QUESTION Mr. so called expert on end times, do you think Israel can see this when I am telling you openly what they are and you can't even comprehend it?


Hello Rondonmon: (-: You have been telling us that the Beast's Image is placed in temple without The Two Witnessed having any prior knowledge of who Anti-Christ is; that is, until the Image shows up there. There are many people here that I know now that will be my witness that you have said these things. But of course you don't like me pointing out you error. Everybody you will notice that Rondonmon never Quotes me, because he never addressing any of my objections, but indicates me as saying thing entirely different than what I said, accusing me of saying things that were never said, and doing this regularly. But I'm OK with it, other than I will say this, that if you read what I say first; you will imediatly see what he is doing...

Here Rondonmon I will say it in another way: You indicating that the Two Prophets were not having a clue until the Image was installed in the Temple is like saying Israel was not having any knowledge of their enemies; for instance, like Egypt, Assyria, Babyon, Medo-Persia, Greese, or Antient Rome; that is, never feeling a sense of danger until they were attacked? But What Did The Prophets Do Rondonmon? That's Right, The Prophets were always warning Israel long before they were attacked...
 
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You are basically lost in space on all things end times. An Armstrong guy. The Jewish peoples never accept a false Christ. They enter into an AGREEMENT with the European Union (the 10 that ARISE out of the head of the Fourth Beast) AND the Little Horn that arises in (the 10) Europe (born in Greece) amongst these 10 (all Europe).
Randonmon: Your reply sounds as if Friend were conveying the idea of Jewish people accepting "a false Christ."

All that his post is saying is that:

(from Dan 9:27) (the prince of the Future Roman Empire/Emperor/The Beast) will confirm a treaty with Israel. PERIOD.

I've read over and over what this guy has been posting on this thread, and have to concede he's on the mark. I've also noticed he's a lot more open to receive correction than me or you.
 

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There is no question it is speaking about ONE DAY which STARTS the Wrath of God, that day which starts God's Wrath of course has to begin on ONE DAY, but it is not just one day, we can look at the events that must happen, just in Joel chapter and everywhere else the Day of the Lord is spoken about and see many events that have to come to pass. To be honest, the Day of the Lord lasts 1003 and 1/2 years. God starts taking the earth kingdom away from Satan, who tricked Adam & Eve out of their Dominion with a lie (Thou shalt not surely die). Thus God starts taking the kingdom back in the middle of the week via His Wrath. Then Jesus' (Day of the Lord) reign lasts a 1000 year, so in essence, Satan had 6 days (6000 years) to reign, then God gives the earth/mankind Rest for 1000 years (7th day).

All we ha e to do is look at the 2nd Woe tat lasts 5 months, thereby we know its not ONE DAY, but it is referencing the ONE DAY when Gods Wrath begins, thus on ONE DAY God starts getting His vengeance on mankind, on ONE DAY it starting raining, but the flood last much longer than one day.

The DAY of the Lord just signifies that on tis CERTAIN DAY, God starts taking the earths Dominion away from Satan by Judging mankind in a series of events that last 3.5 years.

The word used there can mean before or in the presence, the Hebrew had only 4000 words and thus multiple meanings, in this case, the Wrath can't come BEFORE the rath starts if you catch my drift, this we know it means al of these events come in the PRESENCE (Face) of God's Wrath. Because Gods Wrath CAN NOT come before Gods Wrath comes. The same thing happens with the word YOWM in Gen. 1, yes it can be a day, but it can also be a month, year, a season, a TIME PERIOD etc. etc. or about 50 things, thus it is ad will be mostly a Day, but we as men have o understand its a word used for TIME PERIODS and we must fill in the blank via he CONTEXT, thus the first YOWM (day) lasts 9.2 billion years from 13.7 billion yeas BC to the Earth was formed 4.5 BC Million years ago. The 6th day lasted about 300-350 million years and ended when God imparted his Spirit into Adam. All "MEN LIKE Animals" before Adam were thus not human beings, so all of their "discovered bones" cant tell them when God decided to place His spirit in us to create Human Beings in God's Image, thus like fools they are confused says God.

So, man (Human Beings with God's Spirit) are only 6000 years old. Hebrew was a primitive language. I recommend two movies I bought on Amazon Prime Video (in the digital library)

Patterns of Evidence: The Exodus

Pattens of Evidence: The Moses Controversy

The Last shows that the Hebrew Language was more than likely the very first Alphabet, and invented by Joseph.

Both are excellent, the first shows the Timelines set by the Egyptology standards are way off.
Rev 16:17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl upon the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying, "It is done." 18 And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder; and there was a great earthquake, such as there had not been since man came to be upon the earth, so great an earthquake was it, and so mighty. 19 The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath. Isa 24:19 The earth is broken asunder, The earth is split through, The earth is shaken violently. 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And huge hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, came down from heaven upon men; and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, because its plague was extremely severe

Isa 47:9 “But these two things will come on you suddenly in one day: Loss of children and widowhood. They will come on you in full measure In spite of your many sorceries, In spite of the great power of your spells.​

Rev 18:8 “For this reason in one day her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the Lord God who judges her is strong. 17 for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, 18 and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?' 19 "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!'

Zec 14:10 All the land will be changed into a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem; but Jerusalem will rise and remain on its site from Benjamin’s Gate as far as the place of the First Gate to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the king’s wine presses.
 

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The False Prophet places the IMAGE.........READ IT HERE !!

Rev. 13:11 And I beheld another beast(False Prophet) coming up out of the earth (means Israel); and he had two horns like a lamb(Jewish High Priest), and he spake as a dragon(in league with Satan/Little Horn). 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth(Israel) and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

The 1290 is the AoD and that happens 30 days before the Anti-Christ Conquers Israel. These AGREEMENTS are between Israel and the E.U. and MANY OTHER ATIOS in the Region. QUESTION Mr. so called expert on end times, do you think Israel can see this when I am telling you openly what they are and you can't even comprehend it?
Hello Rondonmon: Please show us one example anywhere in the Old Testament where a Prophet of Israel is clueless as to who Israel's enemies were.
 

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Can you imagine if you were postrib rapture you would have to change those verses because they blow a hole in postrib.
Brother: Well you know what happened; The Harlot needed an excuse to Kill Jews, so they changed the Calendar; even a calendar that guaranteed the calculations from Daniel would no longer align. Even to make make the Jews outsiders, labeling them as heathen or even worse ("not worthy to be alive"); and before long people would forget that from ancient times the Jewish Calendar has not Changed with the trumpets right there in the first part of the seventh month. But We can thank God Because He gave us the heads-up, so we would know who the Great Harlot Is, even her daughters. And few are realizing that the following is reference to the 6th beast, recorded in secular History as the year of the four Emporers" coinciding with August of 70 AD.

Dan 7:25 ‘He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.

“The Year of Four Emperors”

The following relates to the glory of the sixth Head/Empire being judged and thereafter coming to its end; this relates to the time called: “The Year of Four Emperors” (which in turn relates to Eleven Horns.)

Dan 7:7 After this Daniel kept looking in the night visions, and “behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.”

Dan 7:20 “The meaning of the ten horns that were on its head and the other horn which came up, and before which three of them fell, namely, the horn which had eyes and a mouth uttering great boasts, and was larger in appearance than its associates.”

Daniel’s vision describes the times which Historians have called “Year of The Four Emperors.”

The Ten Horns being the Ten Roman Proconsuls of the Ten Senatorial Provinces instituted by Caesar Augustus in 27 B.C. The Three Horns who fell before the Little Horn (the eleventh) are: Galba, Otho and Vitellius, who were Proconsuls themselves; In other words, they were part of the 10 Horns. Galba was Proconsul of Africa in 45 A.D., Otho was Proconsul of Hispania Baetica, and Vitellius was proconsul of Africa (c. 61 A.D.) Galba was murdered by the Praetorian guards that were in agreement with Otho. In turn, Otho was defeated by Vitellius’ armies, and then committed suicide. Next, Vitellius was murdered by Vespasian’s army. Vespasian was proconsul for Africa: 63 A.D., but was eventually proclaimed Emperor. Therefore, Vespasian is the Little Horn (the eleventh) taking his appointment after three of the Ten horns, were abased before him.
https://www.crystalinks.com/YearoftheFourEmperors.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senatorial_province

https://www.unrv.com/government/senatorial-provinces.php

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Ok Brothers and Sisters out there: Here we have it again: RONDONMON IS SAYING THAT I SAID: "that the Jewish people accepted a false Christ". I did not say nothing of the Sort... Also Accusing Me Of Being "Lost In Space"

WHICH MADE ME SMILE (-:

Please read what I say in the post; because Rondonmon is lying about it every time... but this is to be expected.

And in fact the opposite is true of what I am being accused of! Even that in many of my post you will see that Israel is Exalted above all others for a thousand years. Almost every post of mine you will see that Israel is given their proper place. With The Great Harlot being Israel's Historic enemy; with the fallen Roman Empire being the 6th Beast, with the Revived Roman Empire (with the wound that was healed) being the 7th Beast/FUTURE... It is The RCC/THE GREAT HARLOT who's long standing doctrine was that of the Jerusalem and the Jewish people being the Harlot. But with the elapse of time, and the examination of profiles that can't possibly fit the Jewish people; have exonerated this often persecuted people of God. The Harlots doctrine of Anti-Semitism is long established, starting with Saint Hippolytus Of Rome; with vigorous hatred having sown the seed's of anti-Semitism throughout Europe first, before riding Her Sea-Beasts, taking the poison out into the rest of the world.​
Watchman nee said the whore was the rcc.
 

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It sounded like you were saying he actually did the placing himself.
Well, he does, but so does the Anti-Christ, per his instructions from AFAR. Its like Hitler in the 30s, before he invaded he had people from other nations who knew what was about to happen, and they chose sides, like Vichy France vs. Free France. If you have ever watched Casablanca or To Have and Have Not (both Bogart films) they both show Vichy France people in charge. So, he knows what's about to g down, or since I think Israel by this time is an E.U. Nation State, just like France, Belgium or Spain right now, thus there are ties, its like the U.S. President giving this stupid mandate for COVID 19 shots, some states are saying no way, others like New York are going along with it, its politics at its finest. Well, if Israelis an E.U. Member by that time (they will be, that is what the whole Covenant is, its not an Agreement on religious grounds at all, its an agreement between Israel and the E.U. along with MANY other Mediterranean Sea Nations) then this E.U. President from afar will have political sway in Israel since by that time Israel would have been a member of the E.U. for over 3 years.

So, this Religious High Priest of Israel will be super angry after 1/3 of the Jews accepts Jesus Christ, so this man from afar, the Anti-Christ/President of the E.U. will understand this, (Remember, he hates God/Jesus) he will tell him, why don't you stop these people from coming in the Temple and "defiling it" by worshiping Jesus? And this High Priest, soon to be traitor False Prophet, stops the Jews who repented from Worshiping Jesus in the Temple (TAKES AWAY the Sacrifice) then out of spite he does the exact same thing Jason (real name Yeshua) under Antiochus Epiphanes, he will place an Image of the E.U. President in the Temple, Jason allowed Antiochus to make a Sacrifice unto Zeus (who is just Baal by the way, Zeus came from Belios/Bel, who came from Baal, and them later became Jupiter, so we teach our kids about Jupiter ad Zeus in High School, and we wonder why the culture is being destroyed, they are Satan), Jason then tried to Hellenize the Jews, which is what he will CHANGE TIMES & LAWS points unto, he like Jason tries to change the Traditions and Culture of Israel/Jews. So, Jason wanted the Jews to become like the Greeks, serve Greek gods, become Hellenistic, this led to the Maccabean Revolt, so this man will FORBID Jesus Worship, and he will place an IMAGE in the Temple, Jason and Antiochus were THE TYPE of Anti-Christ and False Prophet. We can know the order of events by understanding the 1290 comes 30 days before the 1260, when we grasp that we understand the 1290 can not be the Anti-Christ.

Paul wrote of someone named "the man of sin". Who is that?
He is the Anti-Christ, but Paul was the one God chose to take the Gospel unto the Gentiles, John was the Disciple he chose to give END TIME understandings unto. We see in Rev. 13 John says the False Prophet (2nd Beast) is the one who places the Image, and Jesus doesn't say its a MAN, he says its something standing where t ought not stand, Jesus never calls the AoD a HE !! Jesus implies it is a profane statue/graven image standing where it ought not. So, in the long run I look at Jesus' words, and combine them with John's Revelation from God/Jesus, God chose certain people for certain jobs, now we can all guess via seeing these scriptures, but revelation and guessing are two different things. Jon was purposely chosen fir this, and when combined with Jesus' words, we can see it will be a profane IMAGE that is the AoD. And we can further confirm this by understanding the timing of the 1290 and 1260, which Daniel via Jesus (Man in Linen) shows that the 1290 comes 30 days before the Anti-Christ conquers Jerusalem, so the 1290 can't be the Anti-Christ. All three passages agree, Paul on the other hand never says this is revelation from God, he's merely writing a letter of encouragement and gives his opinion what it will be like WE DO HERE {:D} which is why I say over and over, Paul's letters to his flocks, while great, were never meant (even by him) to be "Thus Saith the Lord", as a Pastor, to help your flock, you try and give them all things, but John was given the end time understandings. We gave to combine Revelation, Matt. 24:15 and Daniel chapter 12 together, this is why God tells us "Line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little there a little" so we use the FULL THREAD of he scriptures to get a clear and obvious understanding, because me are men, everything can be nuanced, Satan tries to confuse, but when we combine them all together, we cant be misled.

Matt. 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, {whoso readeth, let him understand} 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
 

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Randonmon: Your reply sounds as if Friend were conveying the idea of Jewish people accepting "a false Christ."

All that his post is saying is that:

(from Dan 9:27) (the prince of the Future Roman Empire/Emperor/The Beast) will confirm a treaty with Israel. PERIOD.

I've read over and over what this guy has been posting on this thread, and have to concede he's on the mark. I've also noticed he's a lot more open to receive correction than me or you.
I don't need correcting when I understand the Holy Spirit on the subject, as soon as I understood he was following the Herbert Armstrong understandings I understood he was off he deep end. If you don't understand that then that's on you, I have the holy spirit, why would I need correcting, LOL.

You can follow men if you so desire, this guy is off the deep end, Satan has a way of playing the pied pipe. Please do not insinuate that I need correcting, you can follow the pied piper types if you will, I will leave you to that, but whoever makes heaven will see this stuff was off the deep end ad wrong, and that I am spot on vie my calling of over 35 years. Thus guys an Armstrong follower, that's a cult.
 

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Ok Brothers and Sisters out there: Here we have it again: RONDONMON IS SAYING THAT I SAID: "that the Jewish people accepted a false Christ". I did not say nothing of the Sort... Also Accusing Me Of Being "Lost In Space"

WHICH MADE ME SMILE (-:
Please read what I say in the post; because Rondonmon is lying about it every time... but this is to be expected.
I knew what you were all about the first few posts when you said "I have changed a few things, on your so called Preachers of 10,000 Pastor whatever it is" but never showed what ideas you supposedly changed. So you gave the "appearance" of listening, but that's all. Some people fell for it, I didn't. That appearance was to try to get everyone else to listen to your MEGA PHONE POSTS where you push your doctrine which you are just Copy and Pasting from your site somewhere. So, you do not come here to discuss anything, you come here with an agenda, to spread the Armstrong stuff. NOTICE, he never mentions anything about the post, about the E.U. tie in etc. etc. he picks out one or two phrases and tries to do the ole Clinton trick of fooling the eyes on which cup the ball is under. Its easier for him to do that than try to deny these facts. That's an old misdirection play like trick, the Clintons used it well.

Here is what he said, he is banking on the fact that I will not look back though all of his WAY TOO MANY POSTS and find these things, since I understand who he is following and find every thing he thus says as not worthy of reading. Anyone here who told me they are following Jim Jones teaching I would treat the same way, notice he doesn't deny the Armstrong claims I made. This stuff is from the Worldwide Church of God, and they are a cult. The RCC stuff.

Back to what he said I said and HIS POST............His post was here.........

"A treaty comprehends knowing the person you are in the treaty with;"

So, when I stated that he says the Jews "Accept the Anti-Christ" and he then says I am lying about what he says, NOTICE his post says they can not enter into a treaty (Agreement) without knowing who the person !! So, if they KNOW he is the Anti-Christ and enter into an AGREEMENT that suggests that he Jews had to have accepted this man(some even say as their Messiah). He can twirl it around any way he likes to, I usually don't waste my time on people like this because I can see through them, he has an agenda to PUSH predetermined materials he has on another site somewhere, he spoke if this "DOCTRINE" when he first came here, and how 10,000 pastors had signed off, and that is what he's feeding you guys, which is why none of his replies ever sound congruent, and why they are also different colors I suppose, he's not rally answering anyone's replies, he gets a toe in the door and posts his sites Doctrine (manifesto so to speak).

I didn't take him seriously, as soon as I saw the Armstrong angle/Church of God stuff I was like, this guy is down the Armstrong rabbit hole. I been around far to long to not see this stuff coming.

I could follow his every post around and show how he does the above, but why waste the time? I just will not reply to him any more. I don't give anyone that follows Armstrong or the Church of God any credence at all.

It is The RCC/THE GREAT HARLOT who's long standing doctrine was that of the Jerusalem and the Jewish people being the Harlot.
NOTICE: The RCC is the Harlot..........its a tell tale sign, one of them anyway, of who he is. My Babylon Blog destroyed this, an he said nary a word.

All ANYONE has to do is read Rev.16:19 it spells out very clearly EXACTLY who the Harlot is. God calls them by NAME, He says he gave his WRATH to Babylon the Great in that very verse.

Rev. 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts(Jerusalem/Earthquake/Jesus return), and the cities of the nations fell(the Kings who fight God): and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

So, in order to 100 percent KNOW who Babylon is all we have to do is find out who Jesus DEFEATED at the 7th Vial, and thus who God saw as Babylon the Great !! See the 6th Vial, it TELLS US THIS CLEARLY !!


Rev. 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

So, who is God Himself calling Babylon the Great? The Kings of the WHOLE WORLD.

He will never reply to this point because it destroys his thesis. He will pick out ONE SENTENCE and try the ole hide the ball misdirection and BOOM Copy and Paste his "10,000 Pastor Doctrine".

NOTICE how what he stated that I lied about him, is not an untruth at all. He clearly says they can't enter into an Agreement without KNOWING who they are agreeing with, he clearly says that. Thus if they KNOW who this man is, then that means they ACEPPTED an Agreement with a MAN who they knw is the Anti-Christ. (Its like taking candy from a baby)

Now, I can't tell you what's in his mind or thus what he is thinking, but by his own words he says if they accept an agreement and if they know who he is, then by his own words I can only deduce that the Jews have to ACCEPT an Agreement ON PURPOSE with the Anti-Christ, if they know who he is ahead of time.
 
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You've made a tremendous start for a newbie. But you are dead wrong!

No, Jesus comes FOR His Church at the Rapture and then comes WITH His Church after the Tribulation. If that were not so, He could not come with His saints at His Second Coming.

So it looks like the fear-mongerer is you.
No, Jesus comes "for" His saints at His Second Coming when the shout, voice, and trumpet is heard, and leave the wicked to drop dead in their tracks all across the Earth...and after the 1,000 years desolation of Earth, Jesus comes back "with" His saints transporting New Jerusalem to Earth, which at that time the wicked of all ages from Cain on resurrect to stand in judgment guilty and then cast into the Lake of Fire which will begin to burn the entire Earth until there's nothing left. Then, He will re-create all things, with us watching and praising Him.
 

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I knew what you were all about the first few posts when you said "I have changed a few things, on your so called Preachers of 10,000 Pastor whatever it is" but never showed what ideas you supposedly changed. So you gave the "appearance" of listening,
Here Is what I have been saying people: I have stated more than once, that I am a part of a twenty-two year Revelations Project; That by now a few more than 1000+ pastors have participated. But as we see right Here: Rondonmon is saying I said 10,000; So this has been my very point and abjection from the begining: that he is not recalling accurately what he has said in the past, Let alone his comments about what others are saying; and I am not the only observer around here that Has Witnessed This... It's well known that Liars can never get their information strait... People!!! Always Read Everything we are saying Here before reading Rondonmon; and you will see that He Spins (in a dishonest way); much of what others are saying. Therefore, after a while of watching Rondonmon do these things; we are calling him out on it; so people are not getting hurt by someone who is obviously a deceiver to the core... So Again Rondonmon: Where is an example in the Old Testament Where a Prophet of Israel is clueless as to who His countries enemies are?
 
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Ok, so the man of sin is the Antichrist. And who is the antichrist in Revelation 13?
A comprehensive comparative study of their characteristics reveals that the Little Horn of Dan 7 and 8, the King of the North, the Man of Sin, the First Beast of Revelation 13, the Whore riding the Beast of Revelation 17 all refer to the same Antichrist power - with the Whore riding the Beast making it abundantly clear as to which power it is.
 

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Here Is what I have been saying people: I have stated more than once, that I am a part of a twenty-two year Revelations Project; That by now a few more than 1000+ pastors have participated. But as we see right Here: Rondonmon is saying I said 10,000; So this has been my very point and abjection from the begining: that he is not recalling accurately what he has said in the past, Let alone his comments about what others are saying; and I am not the only observer around here that Has Witnessed This... It's well known that Liars can never get their information strait... People!!! Always Read Everything we are saying Here before reading Rondonmon; and you will see that He Spins (in a dishonest way); much of what others are saying. Therefore, after a while of watching Rondonmon do these things; we are calling him out on it; so people are not getting hurt by someone who is obviously a deceiver to the core... So Again Rondonmon: Where is an example in the Old Testament Where a Prophet of Israel is clueless as to who His countries enemies are?
Again, you pointed out a TYPO which doesn't change ANT FACTS. The 1000 pastors or 10,000 pastor is IRREEVANT to all the points made. So your very point is nothing, its just a way for you to obfuscate and dodge the real points.

As I stated, there is no way I am going to play you whack-a-mole games. We do not say what the Two-witnesses will or will not say, but that's not even the point, you DON'T GET IT, because you can't get the TIMING RIGHT, this your whole framework is way off. The Two-witnesses show up after the Agreements are made 1335 days before the Second Coming Ends all these Wonders, so how are they going to tell Israel anything BEFORE they enter into the Agreement? Which makes you automatically wrong. PERIOD. The Agreements are entered into 2520 days (7 years) BEFRE the Second Coming.

So, you can never back up anything because I destroy all of your arguments and timelines, so all you can do is obfuscate and then Copy & Paste carpet bombings which no one is going to read, you have been told by quite a few these pots are weird and nor congruent.

I allowed you to make this same argument for three days on purpose, the Two-witnesses do nit show up in tome to tell the leaders of Israel anything, thy are given a Ministry on earth f only 1260 days, and their timeline ALMOST parallels the Beasts 1260 day rule, they die at the end of the Second Woe, he dies at the 3rd Woe/7th Vial. You are defeated by your own arguments. I saw through you from the get go. Armstrong/Church of God stuff.
 

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Ok, so the man of sin is the Antichrist. And who is the antichrist in Revelation 13?
The First Beast, he then names the False Prophet to a POSITION as the Beast over Religion, BUT...................just like the Anti-Christ is already the E.U. President, but just no the Conquering Beast yet until he conquers Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region, the coming 2nd Beast/False Prophet will only be a Jewish High Priest until he is appointed unto his position by the First Beast.

Rev. 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, (This is NOT the Anti-Christ, one of the Heads is) and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard(Greece), and his feet were as the feet of a bear(Persia), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(Babylon(: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death(Rome); and his deadly wound was healed(Anti-Christ CONQUERS Israel/MSR and this becomes THE LAST BEAST): and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon(Satan) which gave power unto the beast(Anti-Christ/First Beast of Rev. 13, the others are NO MORE as Dan. 7:12 says, they LOST Dominion): and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Dan. 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake:(A.C./Beast) I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.(The LAST Beast is a MAN)

12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.