It Is satanic Heresy to Deny Eternal Security
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With that said we should trust what He says is true:
Yeremyah 17:5-8, "This is what Yahweh says: Cursed is the man who trusts in man, who makes flesh his arm; strength, and whose heart departs from Yahweh. For he will be like a bush in the desert, and will not see success when it comes, but will inhabit the parched places in the wilderness; a salt land not inhabited! Blessed is the man who trusts in Yahweh, and whose hope is Yahweh. For he will be like a tree planted by the waters, which spreads out its roots by the river, and will not fear when heat comes. Its leaves are always green; it will not be worried in the year of drought, and never ceases to yield fruit."
John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
John 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."
Yeremyah 17:5-8, "This is what Yahweh says: Cursed is the man who trusts in man, who makes flesh his arm; strength, and whose heart departs from Yahweh. For he will be like a bush in the desert, and will not see success when it comes, but will inhabit the parched places in the wilderness; a salt land not inhabited! Blessed is the man who trusts in Yahweh, and whose hope is Yahweh. For he will be like a tree planted by the waters, which spreads out its roots by the river, and will not fear when heat comes. Its leaves are always green; it will not be worried in the year of drought, and never ceases to yield fruit."
John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
John 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."
O
11TIMOTHY 4:2-3-4-5.
Preach the Word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort
with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves
teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the Truth, and shall
be turned unto fables.
But watch you in all things, endure afflictions, do the Work of an evangelist,
make full proof of your ministry.
Preach the Word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort
with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves
teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the Truth, and shall
be turned unto fables.
But watch you in all things, endure afflictions, do the Work of an evangelist,
make full proof of your ministry.
K
By saying that you are saying to let others die in their sins.
The warnings that Paul gave was not all to unbelievers, a lot of the warnings he gave was to believers. Even like I said he even warned Timothy. Why warn Timothy ?????
Timothy was an Apostle also, so he was a true believer, so why would Paul warn him if sins that he may become a part of in the future of his walk can not be imputed on him any more? That's right because Paul taught no such thing, he did the opposite and warned believers that they can still become impure do to future sins.
And you have no right to tell others they have on authority to teach, that is not your judgment to make !!!
We are chosen by God through the working of the Holy Spirit in our lives to teach others in all truth, not partial truths.
Lord Jesus warned if you are a hearer only and not a doer, then you are a goat.
Apostle Paul warned believers that if you do not show self control, and work to abstain from sins, then you are still walking in darkness of a carnal mind. Hebrews confirms all of this by saying if you do sin again, and do not feel the conviction from the Holy Spirit then you are illegitimate and not sons of God.
K
Yes another example where the Apostle Paul is telling Apostle Timothy to rebuke those, and reprimand those who are teaching falsely. We must continue to preach sound doctrine, and when some one calls themselves a teacher or preacher of the Word. Yet continues to tell others that they do not have to follow what the Lord taught, or take other scriptures out of the bible then they are not fit for teaching. Paul says only those who continue in obedience are useful for His will to teach and preach the Word. If there is no obedience to the Lord's teachings, then reprove, rebuke them and then turn around and instruct them in the proper way.
K
Wrong the Holy Spirit guides me in my teaching which is why I have tried to exhort you in some of what you have said.
You have said the Holy Spirit does not convict the believer when they sin, and you have said that a believer does not have to confess their future committed sins. Both those teachings of your are proven false by the bible.
I am trying to help you, as well as others have done by showing clear scripture showing that. You are the one who continues to ignore the clear cut scriptures given to you. Pray to God to open your eyes, and to help you through the Holy Spirit to pull you away from that man made doctrine. Joseph Prince said those same two things you are saying and was rebuked for the false teaching.
K
Reprove - means to reprimand somebody for false teaching
Rebuke - means to show them what they are teaching is false by scripture/Word of God
Exhort - means to then in love help them to correct their false teaching
If you are a child of God you would except all of this, as of being a child of God you would accept His chastising, conviction, and correction.
Rebuke - means to show them what they are teaching is false by scripture/Word of God
Exhort - means to then in love help them to correct their false teaching
If you are a child of God you would except all of this, as of being a child of God you would accept His chastising, conviction, and correction.
A
The Scriptures themselves encourage CAUTION.
What's with Paul's occasional talking of his having HOPE of eternal life?
How you can constantly IGNORE clear Scripture verses is way beyond me!
Oh, wait, no it's not ...
probably you just wish to continue in your sin and end up in Heaven.
And this is exactly what most of today's churches fail to deal with ...
either because of ignorance, or because they just do not care about the sheep!
What's with Paul's occasional talking of his having HOPE of eternal life?
How you can constantly IGNORE clear Scripture verses is way beyond me!
Oh, wait, no it's not ...
probably you just wish to continue in your sin and end up in Heaven.
And this is exactly what most of today's churches fail to deal with ...
either because of ignorance, or because they just do not care about the sheep!
But Kenneth, is it not your position that no one is saved until after the Sheep & Goat Judgment? If that is the case, then no one is a child of God until then either.
As to "think you are secure," who here ever argued that a person is saved because he thinks he is saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ & you shall be saved. -- nothing changes that. The believer is to know that he has eternal life (1 John).
Nobody's life matches up with God's scriptural standards. All sin. Christians are in maturing process. But you have to be born again to begin with to enter that process.
No repentence? Metanoia is not being sorry for sin. saving repentance is a CHANGE OF MIND from unbelief to belief, such as is indicated that you need -- you need a change of mind! Change from any confidence in your good works to trusting the Savior.
Water baptism never saves.
The required confession is to God as to who the Lord Jesus is; that is you must trust the real Jesus (YHWH become man in the flesh).
Of course genuine faith has results in a change in behavior. When will your behavior change? When will you stop perverting the gospel of grace & change this behavior here?
When will you realize your own need of trust in the Savior as only & sufficient Savior; give up the water idolatry.
Then when will you trust the Lord with your eternal destiny & become a child of God? This cannot wait until after the sheep & goat judgment.
If you define belief as merely being persuaded that some doctrine is true that is correct. But merely believing is the only way to be saved, where belief means trusting the Savior.
Luke 8:11-12
Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 And those by the way side are they that have heard; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word from their heart, that they may not believe and be saved.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 1:12
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 3:14-18
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up; 15 that
whosoever believeth may in him have eternal life. 16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God sent not the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through him. 18 He that believeth on him is not judged: he that believeth not hath been judged already, because he hath not believed on the name of the only Son of God.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 5:24
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 6:40
For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who beholdeth the Son, and believes on him, should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 6:47
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 5:24
2Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 10:27
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who hath given them unto me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
JOHN 20:30
Many other signs therefore did Jesus in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 but these are written, that ye may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye may have life in his name.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
Act 13:48
And as the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of God: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
Acts 15:8
And God, who knoweth the heart, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Spirit, even as he did unto us; and he made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
Acts 16:31a
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved, . . . .
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
Acts 26:18b
that they may receive remission of sins and an inheritance among them that are sanctified by faith in me.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
As to "think you are secure," who here ever argued that a person is saved because he thinks he is saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ & you shall be saved. -- nothing changes that. The believer is to know that he has eternal life (1 John).
Nobody's life matches up with God's scriptural standards. All sin. Christians are in maturing process. But you have to be born again to begin with to enter that process.
No repentence? Metanoia is not being sorry for sin. saving repentance is a CHANGE OF MIND from unbelief to belief, such as is indicated that you need -- you need a change of mind! Change from any confidence in your good works to trusting the Savior.
Water baptism never saves.
The required confession is to God as to who the Lord Jesus is; that is you must trust the real Jesus (YHWH become man in the flesh).
Of course genuine faith has results in a change in behavior. When will your behavior change? When will you stop perverting the gospel of grace & change this behavior here?
When will you realize your own need of trust in the Savior as only & sufficient Savior; give up the water idolatry.
Then when will you trust the Lord with your eternal destiny & become a child of God? This cannot wait until after the sheep & goat judgment.
If you define belief as merely being persuaded that some doctrine is true that is correct. But merely believing is the only way to be saved, where belief means trusting the Savior.
Luke 8:11-12
Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 And those by the way side are they that have heard; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word from their heart, that they may not believe and be saved.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 1:12
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 3:14-18
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up; 15 that
whosoever believeth may in him have eternal life. 16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God sent not the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through him. 18 He that believeth on him is not judged: he that believeth not hath been judged already, because he hath not believed on the name of the only Son of God.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 5:24
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 6:40
For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who beholdeth the Son, and believes on him, should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 6:47
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 5:24
2Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
John 10:27
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who hath given them unto me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
JOHN 20:30
Many other signs therefore did Jesus in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 but these are written, that ye may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye may have life in his name.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
Act 13:48
And as the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of God: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
Acts 15:8
And God, who knoweth the heart, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Spirit, even as he did unto us; and he made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
Acts 16:31a
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved, . . . .
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
Acts 26:18b
that they may receive remission of sins and an inheritance among them that are sanctified by faith in me.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
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O
Mitspa,
please stop and self-examine yourself, you sound like a naughty child,
repulsed by authority and only wanting to have his own way.
our Father taught us from the beginning of His ministry that He Himself
was not above being the most humble of us all, in all the world -
I pray that you would desire to follow in His footsteps.
please stop and self-examine yourself, you sound like a naughty child,
repulsed by authority and only wanting to have his own way.
our Father taught us from the beginning of His ministry that He Himself
was not above being the most humble of us all, in all the world -
I pray that you would desire to follow in His footsteps.
M
No you guys are so blinded by your self-righteousness and attempts to "earn" salvation you cannot see the sure promises of God in the New testament....and none of you are in any position to correct anyone in the things of God... you have NO authority nor do you understand enough of the truth to help anyone.... So please skip the part where you guys pretend to warn us poor believers who actually believe the gospel and doubt not!
You guys doubt and we believe.... its that simple
You guys doubt and we believe.... its that simple
C
Yeah but, yeah but, yeah but -- have you ever checked the Greek Grammar on that word "believe" or "believeth" ???
It's more often a "present active participle" which would be "Continuous [non-endiing] Action".
Jesus asked - Luke 18:8b ..... Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall He find faith on the earth?
Now what kinda question is that for Him to ask? Why would He need to ask such a thing?
So - if this "faith/believing" [pistueo = a Verb] must be a verb that's Continuously Active - we should be looking for verses that #1 - shows the 'action' of this faith/believing and secondly - find verses that show a necessity of a "continuous" faith/believing action.
Right?
So what if He returns and finds us not actively continuing in the works of faith?
-- as faith doesn't stand inactive - there is fruit of active continuous faith as He commanded us to...
1Pe 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1Pe 1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
1Pe 1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
1Pe 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1Pe 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
1Pe 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
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Heb 10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; {for he is faithful that promised}
Heb 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Heb 10:32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
Heb 10:33 Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
Heb 10:34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
Heb 10:35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
Heb 10:36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
Heb 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
Heb 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
Heb 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
It's more often a "present active participle" which would be "Continuous [non-endiing] Action".
Jesus asked - Luke 18:8b ..... Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall He find faith on the earth?
Now what kinda question is that for Him to ask? Why would He need to ask such a thing?
So - if this "faith/believing" [pistueo = a Verb] must be a verb that's Continuously Active - we should be looking for verses that #1 - shows the 'action' of this faith/believing and secondly - find verses that show a necessity of a "continuous" faith/believing action.
Right?
So what if He returns and finds us not actively continuing in the works of faith?
-- as faith doesn't stand inactive - there is fruit of active continuous faith as He commanded us to...
1Pe 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1Pe 1:14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
1Pe 1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
1Pe 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1Pe 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
1Pe 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
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Heb 10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; {for he is faithful that promised}
Heb 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Heb 10:32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
Heb 10:33 Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
Heb 10:34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
Heb 10:35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
Heb 10:36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
Heb 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
Heb 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
Heb 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
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God does not contradict himself, Kenneth, & you contradict the word of God; whatever spirit you have in this is not God's Spirit.
You are the one who continues to ignore the clear cut scriptures given to you. Pray to God to open your eyes, and to help you through the Holy Spirit to pull you away from that man made doctrine.
Ps 37:5-6
Commit thy way unto YHWH;
Trust also in him, and he will bring it to pass.
And he will make thy righteousness to go forth as the light,
And thy justice as the noonday.
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1 Cor 1:21
it was God’s good pleasure through the foolishness of the preaching to save them that believe.
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Gal 2:15-16
We being Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, yet knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed on Christ Jesus[/B], that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
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Gal 3:
This only would I learn from you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now perfected in the flesh? 4 Did ye suffer so many things in vain? if it be indeed in vain. 5 He therefore that supplieth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or
by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as
Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 7 Know therefore that they that are of faith, the same are sons of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all the nations be blessed. 9 So then they that are of faith are blessed with the faithful Abraham.
For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one who continues not in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them. Now that no man is justified by the law before God, is evident: for, The righteous shall live by faith; 12 and the law is not of faith; but, He that doeth them shall live in them. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one who hangs on a tree: that upon the Gentiles might come the blessing of Abraham in Christ Jesus; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
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Gal 3:22ff
But the scripture shut up all things under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept in ward under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. So that the law is become our tutor to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith is come, we are no longer under a tutor. For ye are all sons of God, through faith, in Christ Jesus.
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Gal 5:5-6
For we through the Spirit by faith wait for the hope of righteousness. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails anything, nor uncircumcision; but faith working through love.
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Eph 1:10ff
to sum up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth; in him, I say in whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his will; 12 to the end that we should be unto the praise of his glory, we who had before hoped in Christ: 13 in whom ye also, having heard the word of the truth, the gospel of your salvation,— in whom, having also believed, ye were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 which is an earnest of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God’s own possession, unto the praise of his glory.
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Eph
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one should boast
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Philip 3:8-9
Yea verily, and I count all things to be loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but refuse, that I may gain Christ, and be found in him, not having a righteousness of mine own, even that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith:
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Col 2:6
As therefore ye received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, 7 rooted and builded up in him, and established in your faith, even as ye were taught, abounding in thanksgiving.
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1 Tim 1:15-17
Faithful is the saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief: howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me as chief might Jesus Christ show forth all his longsuffering, for an ensample of them that should thereafter believe on him unto eternal life.
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2 Tim 3:15b
the sacred writings which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
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Titus 1:4
to Titus, my true child after a common faith: Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Saviour.
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Heb 3:19ff
And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief. Let us fear therefore, lest haply, a promise being left of entering into his rest, any one of you should seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us, even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them, because it was not united by faith with them that heard. For we who have believed do enter into that rest;
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Heb 10:39
But we are not of them that shrink back unto perdition; but of them that have faith unto the saving of the soul.
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Heb 11:7
By faith Noah, being warned of God concerning things not seen as yet, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; through which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
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1 Pet 1:3ff
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy begat us again unto a living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 unto an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
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6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, ye have been put to grief in manifold trials, 7 that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold that perisheth though it is proved by fire, may be found unto praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ: 8 whom not having seen ye love; on whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice greatly with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
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1 John 5:4-5
4 For whatsoever is begotten of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that hath overcome the world, even our faith. 5 And who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
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1 John 5:10-13
Whoever believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. Whoever does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has borne concerning his Son. And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Rev 3:5
The one who overcomes will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father . . . . 1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is begotten of God overcomes the world: and this is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. And who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world — our faith.[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
God does not contradict himself, Kenneth, & you contradict the word of God; whatever spirit you have in this is not God's Spirit.
You are the one who continues to ignore the clear cut scriptures given to you. Pray to God to open your eyes, and to help you through the Holy Spirit to pull you away from that man made doctrine.
Ps 37:5-6
Commit thy way unto YHWH;
Trust also in him, and he will bring it to pass.
And he will make thy righteousness to go forth as the light,
And thy justice as the noonday.
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1 Cor 1:21
it was God’s good pleasure through the foolishness of the preaching to save them that believe.
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Gal 2:15-16
We being Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, yet knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed on Christ Jesus[/B], that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
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Gal 3:
This only would I learn from you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now perfected in the flesh? 4 Did ye suffer so many things in vain? if it be indeed in vain. 5 He therefore that supplieth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or
by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as
Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 7 Know therefore that they that are of faith, the same are sons of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all the nations be blessed. 9 So then they that are of faith are blessed with the faithful Abraham.
For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one who continues not in all things that are written in the book of the law, to do them. Now that no man is justified by the law before God, is evident: for, The righteous shall live by faith; 12 and the law is not of faith; but, He that doeth them shall live in them. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one who hangs on a tree: that upon the Gentiles might come the blessing of Abraham in Christ Jesus; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
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Gal 3:22ff
But the scripture shut up all things under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept in ward under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. So that the law is become our tutor to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith is come, we are no longer under a tutor. For ye are all sons of God, through faith, in Christ Jesus.
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Gal 5:5-6
For we through the Spirit by faith wait for the hope of righteousness. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails anything, nor uncircumcision; but faith working through love.
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Eph 1:10ff
to sum up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth; in him, I say in whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his will; 12 to the end that we should be unto the praise of his glory, we who had before hoped in Christ: 13 in whom ye also, having heard the word of the truth, the gospel of your salvation,— in whom, having also believed, ye were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 which is an earnest of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God’s own possession, unto the praise of his glory.
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Eph
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one should boast
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Philip 3:8-9
Yea verily, and I count all things to be loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but refuse, that I may gain Christ, and be found in him, not having a righteousness of mine own, even that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith:
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Col 2:6
As therefore ye received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, 7 rooted and builded up in him, and established in your faith, even as ye were taught, abounding in thanksgiving.
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1 Tim 1:15-17
Faithful is the saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief: howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me as chief might Jesus Christ show forth all his longsuffering, for an ensample of them that should thereafter believe on him unto eternal life.
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2 Tim 3:15b
the sacred writings which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
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Titus 1:4
to Titus, my true child after a common faith: Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Saviour.
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Heb 3:19ff
And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief. Let us fear therefore, lest haply, a promise being left of entering into his rest, any one of you should seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us, even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them, because it was not united by faith with them that heard. For we who have believed do enter into that rest;
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Heb 10:39
But we are not of them that shrink back unto perdition; but of them that have faith unto the saving of the soul.
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Heb 11:7
By faith Noah, being warned of God concerning things not seen as yet, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; through which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
[NO WORKS, NO WATER]
1 Pet 1:3ff
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy begat us again unto a living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 unto an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
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6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, ye have been put to grief in manifold trials, 7 that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold that perisheth though it is proved by fire, may be found unto praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ: 8 whom not having seen ye love; on whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice greatly with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
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1 John 5:4-5
4 For whatsoever is begotten of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that hath overcome the world, even our faith. 5 And who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
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1 John 5:10-13
Whoever believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. Whoever does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has borne concerning his Son. And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Rev 3:5
The one who overcomes will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father . . . . 1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is begotten of God overcomes the world: and this is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. And who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world — our faith.[NO WORKS, NO WATER]