Is the true Gospel being preached today?

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ThyKingdomComeSoon

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sooo many different opinion here on the gospel, my head is spinning. where is all that confusion from?
 

DJT_47

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Is that not what your doing?

Did Jesus give Nicodemus a false gospel?
I'm not doing that at all. I look at ALL the scriptures zbd put the respective individual parts together to get the complete picture. Scripture DOESN'T contradict or conflict with scripture. It doesn't and can't si it's incumbent upon us to ascertain what the entirety of the message is and you do that by putting all the scriptures together on any given subject to determine the complete message. Why are there 4 gospels? Isn't each a bit different? Don't we glean something from each? Do we not put them all together, blend them, to understand the complete gospel story? Yes we do. You can't just read Matthew and ignor Mark, Luke, and John. No different than any other scripture.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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I'm not doing that at all. I look at ALL the scriptures zbd put the respective individual parts together to get the complete picture. Scripture DOESN'T contradict or conflict with scripture. It doesn't and can't si it's incumbent upon us to ascertain what the entirety of the message is and you do that by putting all the scriptures together on any given subject to determine the complete message. Why are there 4 gospels? Isn't each a bit different? Don't we glean something from each? Do we not put them all together, blend them, to understand the complete gospel story? Yes we do. You can't just read Matthew and ignor Mark, Luke, and John. No different than any other scripture.
Your right it does nto contradict

So since Jesus never said anything about baptism in his gospel in John 3 4 5 and 6. Then your interpretation of Mark and acts is not correct.

Which you have been shown that numerous times now, that it is incorrect
 

mailmandan

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Is that not what your doing?

Did Jesus give Nicodemus a false gospel?
Instead of properly harmonizing scripture with scripture before reaching the proper conclusion on doctrine, some people instead prefer to distort and pervert passages of scripture in an effort to "patch together" their so called gospel plan. The end result is works salvation, which is a "different" gospel.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Instead of properly harmonizing scripture with scripture before reaching the proper conclusion on doctrine, some people instead prefer to distort and pervert passages of scripture in an effort to "patch together" their so called gospel plan. The end result is works salvation, which is a "different" gospel.
they get stuck on a few verses and can;t see the rest of the word
 

DJT_47

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Your right it does nto contradict

So since Jesus never said anything about baptism in his gospel in John 3 4 5 and 6. Then your interpretation of Mark and acts is not correct.

Which you have been shown that numerous times now, that it is incorrect
The only thing that's incorrect is YOU and your understanding of scripture. Goodbye
 

Everlasting-Grace

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The only thing that's incorrect is YOU and your understanding of scripture. Goodbye
Yet you can not explain John 3 4 5 and 6 where jesus spoke of HOW we get eternal life (salvation) and explain why he never mentioned baptism

You want to say goodby thats your choice.. But you better think about what the word says, Your in danger, you do not have to listen to me,, but you better listen to God and all the other who are trying to show you
 

DJT_47

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Yet you can not explain John 3 4 5 and 6 where jesus spoke of HOW we get eternal life (salvation) and explain why he never mentioned baptism

You want to say goodby thats your choice.. But you better think about what the word says, Your in danger, you do not have to listen to me,, but you better listen to God and all the other who are trying to show you
Goodbye everlasting nonsense
 

FlyingDove

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If repentance is fully preached from Scripture (Acts 2:38) then repentance is the other side of believing. "Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish" is what Christ said.
Repentance from what exactly?
 

Karlon

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YES! read 1st John which teaches how to discern the spirits and you'll know who's preaching the truth.
 

FlyingDove

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Repentance from, sorrow for sin committed which should also result in a change of mind and heart.
My question is for Nehemiah6 the OP poster. But, thanks for your input. Is that his view as well?
 

FlyingDove

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Sorry for the response to you. I can't speak for him.
I thanked you for your input. And meant no disrespect. He placed the post & cited the verse. I'm interested in his explanation.
 

FlyingDove

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What do you think? Righteousness?
You posted: If repentance is fully preached from Scripture (Acts 2:38) then repentance is the other side of believing. "Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish" is what Christ said.

Depending on context, repentance can have a variety of meanings. You cited Acts & Luke. In each verse the meaning is different.

Additionally, repentance was being tied to salvation as being necessary & it is. Yet, not applicable to salvation in either vs cited.

In Peter the context is: Jesus is Messiah & you had him KILLED. You need to repent from your actions. Believe He's your long promised Messiah. In short repent/change your mind from unbelief to belief!

In Luke, Jews are gossiping about some Galilaeans (thought to be really far outside of covenant seals) they had committed a heinous act. By mixing blood with sacrifices. Jesus tells these self-righteous tattle tails. Truth, your own godless unfruitful actions make you jus as guilty/repent & return, to walking with & bearing fruit for God.

The perceived thought/notion as to why the tower fell down on the ones it did. Was because the Galilaeans as a whole were known to be ungodly. Jesus says you think because you're actions aren't as ungodly as theirs, your ok. Well, you're not ok, you have tuned your back on God & are just as guilty/unfruitful as they are, repent/return to the the Lord your God.. The unfruitful fig parable is levied against the whole nation.

There was some covenant mixing in the OP as well. The kingdom message Jesus preached is void of the death & resurrection (he's still alive) and the NT indwelling Holy Spirit. Isn't poured out until 50 days after His resurrection. Both are critical center pieces to the Gospel of grace message Paul preached to the NT Body of Christ.

1 Gospel/Good news message. What's the good news? God via his merciful grace. will provide sinners a way/path to a full sin pardon.

God, 1st revealed his plan of redemption/sin forgiveness/reconciliation to Adam & Eve. When he covered them with/in sacrificed animal skins (Gen 3:21).

Later on Mt Moriah, God, reveals his plan of redemption/sin forgiveness/reconciliation to Abraham (Gen 22:14). The message in both dispensations is God's path to redemption is coming, trust Him!

Next the kingdom gospel, it's message of redemption is: The redeemer is here acknowledge Him!

Under the gospel of the grace of God message: The good news is: Jesus death &n resurrection HAVE provided the pathway to salvation/forgiveness, Put your Faith in His finished sin redemptive work!

Lastly, in every case. Faith in God/Christ is the conduit to accessing salvation.

One gospel (3 dispensations), God is the redeemer & sin redemption is accessed by FAITH placed in His plan.
 

Nehemiah6

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Depending on context, repentance can have a variety of meanings.
No. Those are a variety of APPLICATIONS of the same word. And now you are merely quibbling to show us how clever you are. No need to waste time on this kind of distraction.