Is the laying of hands necessary in order to receive the Holy Spirit?
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The thing is .. it is 'they'.. the whole congregation receiving the Holy Ghost .
Different work to an individual receiving the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Spirit not yet come...in what way?
Individual indwelling? I don't think so. Compare receiving the Holy Ghost with the book of John on believe on Jesus and have eternal life. Eternal life without indwelling? I don't think so.
The Holy Spirit has different roles. A number of them are not about salvation.. like you say.
Different work to an individual receiving the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Spirit not yet come...in what way?
Individual indwelling? I don't think so. Compare receiving the Holy Ghost with the book of John on believe on Jesus and have eternal life. Eternal life without indwelling? I don't think so.
The Holy Spirit has different roles. A number of them are not about salvation.. like you say.
It is not the only way, BUT it is the usual way.
In exceptional cases, God has done it without any human contact or intervention directly, however, laying on of hands was the normal way in which God used the greater ministries in the Body of Christ to fulfil this. Acts 2v1-4, 10v44-47, 8v14-18, 9v17, 19v1-6
The laying on of hands is also one of the foundation truths as listed in Heb 6v1,2.
Also note, that the baptism in the Holy Spirit (i.e., He Who was with them would enter them, John 14v17, Acts 2v1-4) was ALWAYS accompanied by the sign of the believer speaking in tongues, i.e., the gift of tongues. Acts 10v44-47, 1Cor 12v10
In exceptional cases, God has done it without any human contact or intervention directly, however, laying on of hands was the normal way in which God used the greater ministries in the Body of Christ to fulfil this. Acts 2v1-4, 10v44-47, 8v14-18, 9v17, 19v1-6
The laying on of hands is also one of the foundation truths as listed in Heb 6v1,2.
Also note, that the baptism in the Holy Spirit (i.e., He Who was with them would enter them, John 14v17, Acts 2v1-4) was ALWAYS accompanied by the sign of the believer speaking in tongues, i.e., the gift of tongues. Acts 10v44-47, 1Cor 12v10
1 Corinthians 12 brother is Paul explaining a bunch about how spiritual gifts work within the body he’s speaking to people who already believed king before this letter
“The baptism of the Spirit is outward and compared by Peter as what they experienced the day of Pentecost.”
im not really following you brother but I appreciate the response you are saying there are two outward baptisms one done in water which is on the Bible before and after the cross for remission of sins ? And then Another outward spiritual baptism like pentocost ?
I’m honestly not understanding do you believe there is one spirit ? One body ? One lord and one God and Father of all ? One name given under heaven we need to be baptized into to be saved ? What is the purpose of getting baptized in the first place ? For Christian’s to get baptized I mean ?
“This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:32-33, 38 KJV
do you believe Peter is saying believe and get baptized (in water ) in Jesus name for remission of sins and you will receive the Holy Ghost from Jesus in heaven ?
Or is Peter talking about a different baptism ?
And is Peter referring to water baptism here in Jesus name ?
“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God.
Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:44-48 KJV
Was Peter commanding that they be baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins like in chapter two there ? And does “this “baptism in involve water ?
So you have this command by Jesus
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
Then you have a clear example of what they were doing to obey him in that
“And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.
And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
Acts 8:36-39 KJV
Do you see how the spirit of God in Phillip is the one who’s actually baptizing the man in water 😂? It’s because that’s baptism there’s just one like earlier I know you believe there’s one lord and God one faith one spirit and body but why is there then two baptisms ? Clearly the apostles and disciples were baptizing in water before and after Jesus died receiving the spirit is what changed
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4-6
clearly the holt spirit was in Philip when he was baptizing in water and this isn’t going to be a different or wrong baptism it’s going to be the one not baptism that the Holy Ghost is going around doing in water right ?
The only thing that makes this subject important enough to spend time on is because once we realize what baptism is and what we do it for there’s a whole doctrine in tbe epistles about it, what you are seeing is part of the operation of the Holy Ghost in us
“The baptism of the Spirit is outward and compared by Peter as what they experienced the day of Pentecost.”
im not really following you brother but I appreciate the response you are saying there are two outward baptisms one done in water which is on the Bible before and after the cross for remission of sins ? And then Another outward spiritual baptism like pentocost ?
I’m honestly not understanding do you believe there is one spirit ? One body ? One lord and one God and Father of all ? One name given under heaven we need to be baptized into to be saved ? What is the purpose of getting baptized in the first place ? For Christian’s to get baptized I mean ?
“This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:32-33, 38 KJV
do you believe Peter is saying believe and get baptized (in water ) in Jesus name for remission of sins and you will receive the Holy Ghost from Jesus in heaven ?
Or is Peter talking about a different baptism ?
And is Peter referring to water baptism here in Jesus name ?
“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God.
Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:44-48 KJV
Was Peter commanding that they be baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins like in chapter two there ? And does “this “baptism in involve water ?
So you have this command by Jesus
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
Then you have a clear example of what they were doing to obey him in that
“And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.
And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
Acts 8:36-39 KJV
Do you see how the spirit of God in Phillip is the one who’s actually baptizing the man in water 😂? It’s because that’s baptism there’s just one like earlier I know you believe there’s one lord and God one faith one spirit and body but why is there then two baptisms ? Clearly the apostles and disciples were baptizing in water before and after Jesus died receiving the spirit is what changed
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4-6
clearly the holt spirit was in Philip when he was baptizing in water and this isn’t going to be a different or wrong baptism it’s going to be the one not baptism that the Holy Ghost is going around doing in water right ?
The only thing that makes this subject important enough to spend time on is because once we realize what baptism is and what we do it for there’s a whole doctrine in tbe epistles about it, what you are seeing is part of the operation of the Holy Ghost in us
There seems to be two unique things: the promise of the Holy Spirit and the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
In John:
"And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
Later in Acts 1:
"And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; 5 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
So, the original receiving of the Spirit in John was not the baptism of the Spirit Jesus spoke of in Acts 1, else there would have been no need to complete it again.
And then in Acts 2 we read this:
"Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
The first "receiving the Spirit" in John coincides with the baptism into one body as written in 1 Corinthians:
"For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body. Whether Jews or Greeks or slaves or free we were all made to drink of the one Spirit"
Entrance into the Body of Christ requires the rejuvenation of the spirit, spiritual birth. Since the Body of Christ is spiritual, this transaction is spiritual. The flesh cannot inherit spiritual things. Also, this is not water baptism: we do not drink the Spirit during water baptism. Immersion in water is burial into the likeness of Christ's death.
Furthermore, Paul directs the Ephesian saints to "be filled with the Spirit":
"Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit..."
So, it appears to be an ongoing thing to be filled with the Spirit, not as a right to be included into the Body of Christ, but as a normal function of the life of a saint.
Even the disciples, after being filled in Acts 2, are filled again in Acts 4:
"And when they had prayed, the place where they were assembled together was shaken; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the word of God with boldness."
The question is "Is laying of hands necessary in order to receive the Holy Spirit?" I haven't even broached that topic. The answer is "Maybe". If you have not received the Holy Spirit that is evidenced by power, then God can give it to you directly or He may send someone to you to lay hands on you so that you may receive it. If you are a believer, and have accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior, then the Spirit of God is within you. It's by that Spirit you cry out to your Father in Heaven. But, if you do not have power in the Spirit then you may asked to be filled by the Spirit. That is a separate thing and an on going request as you have need.
I have been called away. Perhaps I will write more later.
In John:
"And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
Later in Acts 1:
"And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; 5 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
So, the original receiving of the Spirit in John was not the baptism of the Spirit Jesus spoke of in Acts 1, else there would have been no need to complete it again.
And then in Acts 2 we read this:
"Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
The first "receiving the Spirit" in John coincides with the baptism into one body as written in 1 Corinthians:
"For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body. Whether Jews or Greeks or slaves or free we were all made to drink of the one Spirit"
Entrance into the Body of Christ requires the rejuvenation of the spirit, spiritual birth. Since the Body of Christ is spiritual, this transaction is spiritual. The flesh cannot inherit spiritual things. Also, this is not water baptism: we do not drink the Spirit during water baptism. Immersion in water is burial into the likeness of Christ's death.
Furthermore, Paul directs the Ephesian saints to "be filled with the Spirit":
"Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit..."
So, it appears to be an ongoing thing to be filled with the Spirit, not as a right to be included into the Body of Christ, but as a normal function of the life of a saint.
Even the disciples, after being filled in Acts 2, are filled again in Acts 4:
"And when they had prayed, the place where they were assembled together was shaken; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the word of God with boldness."
The question is "Is laying of hands necessary in order to receive the Holy Spirit?" I haven't even broached that topic. The answer is "Maybe". If you have not received the Holy Spirit that is evidenced by power, then God can give it to you directly or He may send someone to you to lay hands on you so that you may receive it. If you are a believer, and have accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior, then the Spirit of God is within you. It's by that Spirit you cry out to your Father in Heaven. But, if you do not have power in the Spirit then you may asked to be filled by the Spirit. That is a separate thing and an on going request as you have need.
I have been called away. Perhaps I will write more later.
“So, the original receiving of the Spirit in John was not the baptism of the Spirit Jesus spoke of in Acts 1, else there would have been no need to complete it again.”
No one received the holy spirit here though which is the basis for your whole argument that they received the spirit here and then again a second time
“Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.”
John 20:21-23 KJV
it doesn’t say anyone received the holy ghost here in fact we need to realize what happened in John was happening Douro g this same time after Jesus rose and spent fourty days with them
“to whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: and, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.”
Acts 1:3-9
See they hadn’t received the holy spirit when Jesus breathed in them he just said receive the spirit later they did at pentocost as he said there in a few days they would receive the promise they couldn’t have received the Holy Ghost until Jesus ascended to the throne and delivered the promise at pentocost is the thing
this had to happen like Jesus had explained before they could receive the spirit
“Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.”
Acts 2:33
Peter said this moments after receiving the Holy Ghost
“And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
Acts 2:3-4 KJV
Your argument is based on what it doesn’t say there there Jesus was speaking forward to when they would receive it they hadn’t received the spirit yet remember it’s all based on the promise
Jesus had to be exalted first
“Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.”
John 16:7-8, 13-14
“If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
John 14:15-18, 23-26 KJV
remember he commanded them not to leave Jerusalem until they received the holy ghost and were empowered to preach the gospel that’s why you see them start preaching just after they receive the Holy Ghost at pentocost if you receive the spirit you have gods spirit inside your heart it’s a basic promise of Jesus to believers
a they hadn’t received the Holy Ghost until pentocost brother there are a not different measures of receiving the spirit either we believe and receive the holy ghost just like this
“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,”
Acts 10:44-46 KJV
That’s not different from this
“they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
Being filled with the spirit , receving the gift of the spirit , receiving the spirit it’s all one thing we have different gifts when we receive the spirit but there’s just receiving gods spirit or nOt receiving it they only received the spirit when it says they did
after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you
the same as this
they were all filled with the Holy Ghost,
and this
the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
as d this
on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Same as this
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
No one received the holy spirit here though which is the basis for your whole argument that they received the spirit here and then again a second time
“Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.”
John 20:21-23 KJV
it doesn’t say anyone received the holy ghost here in fact we need to realize what happened in John was happening Douro g this same time after Jesus rose and spent fourty days with them
“to whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: and, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.”
Acts 1:3-9
See they hadn’t received the holy spirit when Jesus breathed in them he just said receive the spirit later they did at pentocost as he said there in a few days they would receive the promise they couldn’t have received the Holy Ghost until Jesus ascended to the throne and delivered the promise at pentocost is the thing
this had to happen like Jesus had explained before they could receive the spirit
“Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.”
Acts 2:33
Peter said this moments after receiving the Holy Ghost
“And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
Acts 2:3-4 KJV
Your argument is based on what it doesn’t say there there Jesus was speaking forward to when they would receive it they hadn’t received the spirit yet remember it’s all based on the promise
Jesus had to be exalted first
“Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.”
John 16:7-8, 13-14
“If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
John 14:15-18, 23-26 KJV
remember he commanded them not to leave Jerusalem until they received the holy ghost and were empowered to preach the gospel that’s why you see them start preaching just after they receive the Holy Ghost at pentocost if you receive the spirit you have gods spirit inside your heart it’s a basic promise of Jesus to believers
a they hadn’t received the Holy Ghost until pentocost brother there are a not different measures of receiving the spirit either we believe and receive the holy ghost just like this
“While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,”
Acts 10:44-46 KJV
That’s not different from this
“they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
Being filled with the spirit , receving the gift of the spirit , receiving the spirit it’s all one thing we have different gifts when we receive the spirit but there’s just receiving gods spirit or nOt receiving it they only received the spirit when it says they did
after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you
the same as this
they were all filled with the Holy Ghost,
and this
the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
as d this
on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Same as this
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
on an iPad so I will keep it brief…
We see, by Jesus breathing on the disciples and imparting the Spirit to them, the parallel to when God breathed His Spirit into Adam to bring him alive. Jesus received the right, by the Father, to impart the Spirit in the same way. This is the full circle, back to God’s original intent: for man (adam) to carry the presence of God. This is the ministry of reconciliation. Re-concile: to restore the original state. All who receive Christ may be reconciled to God as sons of God.
Good night, all. To my brothers in the Midwest: may God keep you safe from the storms tonight and tomorrow.
We see, by Jesus breathing on the disciples and imparting the Spirit to them, the parallel to when God breathed His Spirit into Adam to bring him alive. Jesus received the right, by the Father, to impart the Spirit in the same way. This is the full circle, back to God’s original intent: for man (adam) to carry the presence of God. This is the ministry of reconciliation. Re-concile: to restore the original state. All who receive Christ may be reconciled to God as sons of God.
Good night, all. To my brothers in the Midwest: may God keep you safe from the storms tonight and tomorrow.
You are correct. Not a salvation issue neither then nor now.
The manifestation of the Spirit, i.e., the Spiritual gifts, had nothing whatsoever to do with salvation and back in biblical NT times, and resulted upon the laying on of the apostle's hands, subsequent to baptism and salvation, and receiving of the gift, or indwelling of the Spirit itself, as stated in Acts 2:38.
The manifestation of the Spirit, i.e., the Spiritual gifts, had nothing whatsoever to do with salvation and back in biblical NT times, and resulted upon the laying on of the apostle's hands, subsequent to baptism and salvation, and receiving of the gift, or indwelling of the Spirit itself, as stated in Acts 2:38.