Is the earth really 6000 years old?
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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
After Genesis 1, but before Genesis 2, these events happened.
23) beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they hadno light.
24I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
27For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
28For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
29The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.
After Genesis 1, but before Genesis 2, these events happened.
23) beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they hadno light.
24I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
27For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
28For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
29The whole city shall flee for the noise of the horsemen and bowmen; they shall go into thickets, and climb up upon the rocks: every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein.
That’s ok… You may have many good reasons for your disagreement….
For me it seems something happen to make the earth void, I don’t believe it was created that way.
So that should explain what it is really saying when we read in Gen 1:2: "And the earth was without form [tohuw], and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."
For me it seems something happen to make the earth void, I don’t believe it was created that way.
Isa 45:18-19
18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain*1, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. (KJV)
18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain*1, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. (KJV)
*1). vain = There is something remarkable here that is lost to the English reader of the Bible. In the Hebrew Manuscripts that the above verse was translated out of, the word translated into the English as vain is translated from the identical Hebrew word that we saw in Gen 1:1 (tohuw - #2 above), it's the same Hebrew word.
Fair enough… So it would seem that you have a chronological order of events that take place on the earth…
So when do you believe these events took place?
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
I pretty much stick with the KJV for a few reasons… and as far as the NIV goes, the holder of the Copyright of the New International Version Bible also holds the copyright for Hustler magazine - pornography. Rupert Murdock, called "Media's prince of Darkness" by Chicago columnist Mike Royco, owns the copyright & exclusive printing rights on the most sold newer Bible version in the world, the NIV (through Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids Michigan, which he owns). Murdoch also owns the copyright on another Bible version, the Amplified Version.
So when do you believe these events took place?
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
I pretty much stick with the KJV for a few reasons… and as far as the NIV goes, the holder of the Copyright of the New International Version Bible also holds the copyright for Hustler magazine - pornography. Rupert Murdock, called "Media's prince of Darkness" by Chicago columnist Mike Royco, owns the copyright & exclusive printing rights on the most sold newer Bible version in the world, the NIV (through Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids Michigan, which he owns). Murdoch also owns the copyright on another Bible version, the Amplified Version.
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● Ex 2:1-3 . . And there went a man of the house of Levi, and took to wife a
daughter of Levi. And the woman conceived, and bare a son: and when she
saw him that he was a goodly child, she hid him three months. And when
she could not longer hide him, she took for him an ark of bulrushes, and
daubed it with slime and with pitch, and put the child therein; and she laid it
in the flags by the river's brink.
The Hebrew word translated "slime" pertains to bitumen, and the word for
"pitch" pertains to asphalt; which is very handy for pavements and as a
waterproof cement.
Natural bitumen and asphalt are believed produced from very ancient forms
of organic matter which I think we have to concede pre-existed Levi's
daughter by a good many thousands of years.
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● Ex 2:1-3 . . And there went a man of the house of Levi, and took to wife a
daughter of Levi. And the woman conceived, and bare a son: and when she
saw him that he was a goodly child, she hid him three months. And when
she could not longer hide him, she took for him an ark of bulrushes, and
daubed it with slime and with pitch, and put the child therein; and she laid it
in the flags by the river's brink.
The Hebrew word translated "slime" pertains to bitumen, and the word for
"pitch" pertains to asphalt; which is very handy for pavements and as a
waterproof cement.
Natural bitumen and asphalt are believed produced from very ancient forms
of organic matter which I think we have to concede pre-existed Levi's
daughter by a good many thousands of years.
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From some astro physicist I have read they have put forth this notion. What they conclude when they do the math is that we are a digital simulation. Which I find they are correct not in the words they use but they have concluded there is something bigger out there that effects our universe.
That of course is God and the spiritual realm as it would dwarf our universe as God himself says he holds it in the span of his hand. They however, will not be able to correlate the math to the truth because they deny that God exist. So they are correct there is something bigger so it makes us seem as a simulation and not the bigger reality.
However, again our Lord has already worked all that out and as Christ is the answer for everything in creation, one day this world of ours separated by a thin veil and the world of the spiritual will be accessible when Christ returns and God creates anew as well.
I find I am on the side of the young earth. As we can count the years in our bible and arrive at 6000 years or a young earth. I can't hold to the gap theory or other theories it is older. Reason being is that in each of their models death is the reason for creation. By this I am speaking of the fossil record or death of organic material.
They place death before the creation of Adam and the bible says that death entered by him. So if we have death before Adam was created then we serve no true God and to paraphrase Paul if our God be not true then we should eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die.
That of course is God and the spiritual realm as it would dwarf our universe as God himself says he holds it in the span of his hand. They however, will not be able to correlate the math to the truth because they deny that God exist. So they are correct there is something bigger so it makes us seem as a simulation and not the bigger reality.
However, again our Lord has already worked all that out and as Christ is the answer for everything in creation, one day this world of ours separated by a thin veil and the world of the spiritual will be accessible when Christ returns and God creates anew as well.
I find I am on the side of the young earth. As we can count the years in our bible and arrive at 6000 years or a young earth. I can't hold to the gap theory or other theories it is older. Reason being is that in each of their models death is the reason for creation. By this I am speaking of the fossil record or death of organic material.
They place death before the creation of Adam and the bible says that death entered by him. So if we have death before Adam was created then we serve no true God and to paraphrase Paul if our God be not true then we should eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die.
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