Is The Earth Flat Or Round?
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Well; personally, I wouldn't point to nature to prove the Bible is true
because folks all 'round the world were believing in intelligent design before
the Bible even existed.
"The heavens tell of the glory of God, the skies display His marvelous
craftsmanship. Day after day they continue to speak; night after night they
make him known. They speak without a sound or a word; their voice is silent
in the skies; yet their message has gone out to all the earth, and their words
to all the world." (Ps 19:1-4)
In other words: the Bible merely reiterates what people were saying all
along; but that doesn't prove the Bible is true; in only means the Bible
agrees with their assessment.
I have great respect for men like Neil deGrasse Tyson and Carl Sagan; their
IQ just dazzles me, but I am disappointed by their resistance to intelligent
design. Theirs is literally a fight against nature that even the most backwards
bushman knows in his heart couldn't possible begin from nothing on its own.
I was fortunate to grow up in the mountains east of San Diego where the
sky was as crystal clear as a pristine aquarium before smog and inversion
layers ruined it. One night my dad and I were outside in the dark and while
looking up at the grand display of cosmic scenery over our heads; he
commented that all that up there had to be the work of a creator. My young
boy's heart knew right off the bat that my dad was 100% correct; not
because I admired my dad, but because my intuition told me that it just had
to be so.
The Bible says that The Word lighteth every man that comes into the world.
(John 1:9) I sincerely believe that I experienced that light when my dad and
I were outside that evening. I also sincerely believe that Neil deGrasse
Tyson and Carl Sagan experienced that light at one time or another, but
instead of listening to their intuition as they ought, they resisted; and now
they're in really big trouble by forcing themselves to become stupid.
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Well; personally, I wouldn't point to nature to prove the Bible is true
because folks all 'round the world were believing in intelligent design before
the Bible even existed.
"The heavens tell of the glory of God, the skies display His marvelous
craftsmanship. Day after day they continue to speak; night after night they
make him known. They speak without a sound or a word; their voice is silent
in the skies; yet their message has gone out to all the earth, and their words
to all the world." (Ps 19:1-4)
In other words: the Bible merely reiterates what people were saying all
along; but that doesn't prove the Bible is true; in only means the Bible
agrees with their assessment.
I have great respect for men like Neil deGrasse Tyson and Carl Sagan; their
IQ just dazzles me, but I am disappointed by their resistance to intelligent
design. Theirs is literally a fight against nature that even the most backwards
bushman knows in his heart couldn't possible begin from nothing on its own.
I was fortunate to grow up in the mountains east of San Diego where the
sky was as crystal clear as a pristine aquarium before smog and inversion
layers ruined it. One night my dad and I were outside in the dark and while
looking up at the grand display of cosmic scenery over our heads; he
commented that all that up there had to be the work of a creator. My young
boy's heart knew right off the bat that my dad was 100% correct; not
because I admired my dad, but because my intuition told me that it just had
to be so.
The Bible says that The Word lighteth every man that comes into the world.
(John 1:9) I sincerely believe that I experienced that light when my dad and
I were outside that evening. I also sincerely believe that Neil deGrasse
Tyson and Carl Sagan experienced that light at one time or another, but
instead of listening to their intuition as they ought, they resisted; and now
they're in really big trouble by forcing themselves to become stupid.
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I find it odd that absolutely no photographic evidence exists regarding the edge of the earth, bogus or otherwise. Also, what are the positions of the countries closest to the edge, in actual miles and the actual miles from each other? Is the shape of the flat earth round, rectangle, square or some other geometric shape?
It is all about Truth and what comes out of the mouth of God versus satan's deception upon the world.
Satan always seeks to maintain control over the minds of people with "did God really say".
Most christians do not believe = "every word that proceeds from the mouth of God".
Truth is His Righteousness and it sanctifies us. When we discard His words we enter into divisions and even heresies.
Classic example = the Roman Catholic church = seen by the world as 'christianity' and yet it is a very dark deception.
Exalting the Babylonian concepts and heliocentric belief system is in opposition to God's word.
This is why God gave to us Genesis and the Scriptures.
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
For since the creation of the world(Genesis) His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
The Love of Christ is always calling us unto Himself and away from the world system.
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.
Now the whole earth had one language and one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. Then they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar.
And they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens;
let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.”
But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. And the Lord said, “Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them.
There is nothing new under the sun., for what has been will be.
Satan always seeks to maintain control over the minds of people with "did God really say".
Most christians do not believe = "every word that proceeds from the mouth of God".
Truth is His Righteousness and it sanctifies us. When we discard His words we enter into divisions and even heresies.
Classic example = the Roman Catholic church = seen by the world as 'christianity' and yet it is a very dark deception.
Exalting the Babylonian concepts and heliocentric belief system is in opposition to God's word.
This is why God gave to us Genesis and the Scriptures.
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
For since the creation of the world(Genesis) His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
The Love of Christ is always calling us unto Himself and away from the world system.
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.
Now the whole earth had one language and one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. Then they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar.
And they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens;
let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.”
But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. And the Lord said, “Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them.
There is nothing new under the sun., for what has been will be.
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Wrong. The evidence is visible in a glass or test tube of water. The water curves up at the edges. This is called the meniscus. It's a well-known and understood physical phenomenon... which refutes your claim completely.
Wrong again. The surface level of the oceans varies cyclically due to tidal action.
Wrong, yet again. See above. Also, temperature fluctuations cause slight changes in elevation of the surface.
Which, though observable and repeatable, is not a "law", is not stated in Scripture, and is not evidence for a flat Earth. The water level in one location is not coplanar with the water level in another place, even if they are at the same elevation.
By the way, you are using the incorrect word: you should write "its own level", not "it's own level". The latter is a contraction of "it is"; the former is possessive.
Which shows that the Earth is not flat.
Wrong again. The surface level of the oceans varies cyclically due to tidal action.
Wrong, yet again. See above. Also, temperature fluctuations cause slight changes in elevation of the surface.
Which, though observable and repeatable, is not a "law", is not stated in Scripture, and is not evidence for a flat Earth. The water level in one location is not coplanar with the water level in another place, even if they are at the same elevation.
By the way, you are using the incorrect word: you should write "its own level", not "it's own level". The latter is a contraction of "it is"; the former is possessive.
Which shows that the Earth is not flat.
This hilarious - thank you
Nothing you stated here proves water rejects God' Laws that govern water, the earth, the sun, moon and stars.
"It's own level" is the God given Law that water exemplifies 24/7 but you choose not to see that.
Example = Go to the ocean when it is raging high tide and scoop a bucket into those raging waves.
Then place it on level ground and observe what scientific fact occurs.
Also go back to that same raging ocean when it has calmed down and LOOK = amazing difference as it seeks it's own level called SEA LEVEL = truly amazing.
Because of God's Law governing water HE made BOUNDARIES for ALL water on earth.
Nothing you stated here proves water rejects God' Laws that govern water, the earth, the sun, moon and stars.
"It's own level" is the God given Law that water exemplifies 24/7 but you choose not to see that.
Example = Go to the ocean when it is raging high tide and scoop a bucket into those raging waves.
Then place it on level ground and observe what scientific fact occurs.
Also go back to that same raging ocean when it has calmed down and LOOK = amazing difference as it seeks it's own level called SEA LEVEL = truly amazing.
Because of God's Law governing water HE made BOUNDARIES for ALL water on earth.
The Holy Spirit disagrees with you Dino = HE said so in His Word.
My Heavenly Father cannot lie and HE told us to reject Babylonian 'science' and to only accept Truth and Factual Science.
"So the sun stood still and the moon stopped until the nation took vengeance upon its enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? “So the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.”
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
My Heavenly Father cannot lie and HE told us to reject Babylonian 'science' and to only accept Truth and Factual Science.
"So the sun stood still and the moon stopped until the nation took vengeance upon its enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? “So the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.”
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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The difference it makes is that when it is used dogmatically by Christians, ( as we see here) Flat Earth foolishness makes a mockery
of The Bible, calling God's creation a satanic lie. They don't even have a map to use. The azimuthal equidistant projection maps used to illustrate the fake FE are borrowed from work that Flat Earthers call satanic.
It's hypocritical.
How can we present the truth of The Gospel to unbelievers by telling them that a FE hoax represents The Bible?
And by claiming there is scentific data which supports FE when there is none?
FE dogma is false and counter procuctive to our witness as Christians. We are told to use the word of truth correctly
2 Tim 2:15
Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.
Isa 5:20
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of The Bible, calling God's creation a satanic lie. They don't even have a map to use. The azimuthal equidistant projection maps used to illustrate the fake FE are borrowed from work that Flat Earthers call satanic.
It's hypocritical.
How can we present the truth of The Gospel to unbelievers by telling them that a FE hoax represents The Bible?
And by claiming there is scentific data which supports FE when there is none?
FE dogma is false and counter procuctive to our witness as Christians. We are told to use the word of truth correctly
2 Tim 2:15
Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.
Isa 5:20
↓
The difference it makes is that when it is used dogmatically by Christians, ( as we see here) Flat Earth foolishness makes a mockery
of The Bible, calling God's creation a satanic lie. They don't even have a map to use. The azimuthal equidistant projection maps used to illustrate the fake FE are borrowed from work that Flat Earthers call satanic.
It's hypocritical.
How can we present the truth of The Gospel to unbelievers by telling them that a FE hoax represents The Bible?
And by claiming there is scentific data which supports FE when there is none?
FE dogma is false and counter procuctive to our witness as Christians. We are told to use the word of truth correctly
2 Tim 2:15
Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.
Isa 5:20
↓
of The Bible, calling God's creation a satanic lie. They don't even have a map to use. The azimuthal equidistant projection maps used to illustrate the fake FE are borrowed from work that Flat Earthers call satanic.
It's hypocritical.
How can we present the truth of The Gospel to unbelievers by telling them that a FE hoax represents The Bible?
And by claiming there is scentific data which supports FE when there is none?
FE dogma is false and counter procuctive to our witness as Christians. We are told to use the word of truth correctly
2 Tim 2:15
Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.
Isa 5:20
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That's like saying electricity seeks the path of least resistance, when in reality
electricity takes every path available to it. Were that not so, then folks
couldn't use different size light bulbs on the same circuit because a 60 watt
lamp has less resistance than a 7 watt night light. On a 120 volt circuit, the
night light will draw only .058 amps whereas the lamp draws .5 amps
which is almost nine times more juice than the night light.
The same rule applies to integrated circuits. Engineers deliberately factor
resistance into their designs to make them work properly.
So; does water seek its own level? Well; on the surface of the Earth it does, but
in space, water doesn't level because Earth's gravity is too weak to have a marked
effect upon its behavior. Free of influences, water gathers itself into a sphere.
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That's like saying electricity seeks the path of least resistance, when in reality
electricity takes every path available to it. Were that not so, then folks
couldn't use different size light bulbs on the same circuit because a 60 watt
lamp has less resistance than a 7 watt night light. On a 120 volt circuit, the
night light will draw only .058 amps whereas the lamp draws .5 amps
which is almost nine times more juice than the night light.
The same rule applies to integrated circuits. Engineers deliberately factor
resistance into their designs to make them work properly.
So; does water seek its own level? Well; on the surface of the Earth it does, but
in space, water doesn't level because Earth's gravity is too weak to have a marked
effect upon its behavior. Free of influences, water gathers itself into a sphere.
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Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Jerimiah 31:35-37
If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Jerimiah 31:35-37
Our Father's Word to meditate on today:
Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Thus saith the LORD;
If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Jerimiah 31:35-37
Somebody is lying = NASA or God
Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Thus saith the LORD;
If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Jerimiah 31:35-37
Somebody is lying = NASA or God
Martin Luther nailed the 95 thesis to the 'Harlot' who shed the blood of the saints and continues to do so to this day.
The words of the Lord are pure words,
Like silver tried in a furnace of earth,
Purified seven times.
You shall keep them, O Lord,
You shall preserve them from this generation forever.
As for God, His way is perfect;
The word of the Lord is proven;
He is a shield to all who trust in Him.
Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
The words of the Lord are pure words,
Like silver tried in a furnace of earth,
Purified seven times.
You shall keep them, O Lord,
You shall preserve them from this generation forever.
As for God, His way is perfect;
The word of the Lord is proven;
He is a shield to all who trust in Him.
Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?