Just because you disagree with me on whether or not the earth is flat or round does not mean that I am calling Jesus a liar. That is like me saying that you are biblically naive in your interpretation as to the shape of the earth. I don't think Satan gives a crap either way in regard to deception on the actual shape of the earth.
let me repost with reiteration
Jesus says in Matthew 24 AND Mark 13, (
note the two times)
“But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give
its light;
Isaiah says in chapter 13,
"For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine."
Ezekiel says in chapter 37,
"When I extinguish you, I will cover the heavens and darken their stars. I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon will not give its light."
Joel says in chapter 2
"But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,"
if you take these to mean that men misunderstand what God said, okay,
but this is completely wrong in regard to Jesus.
the word Jesus uses in both cases is the specific word to identify "something of itself" or "its own" meaning
specifically "belonging to IT!"
It doesn't matter whether the bible specifically says "God made the moon to shine by itself." the bible clearly teaches that the moon "Gives its own light" NOT that "it gives the light of the sun" and this is because
Jesus says so.
Jesus "specifically" SAID SO
if you claim otherwise then you are specifically and unequivocally calling Jesus, and by extension, God, a liar or a fool.
you agreed, in the absolute, (specifically said "Absolutely") in agreement with VARobs comments saying that according to "Jesus" perspective it seemed that the moon gave its own light. but if one believes that Jesus is God or speaks for God then the only understanding of those verses that I quoted of Jesus himself claiming that the moon gives "Its own light" is that God Himself Believes that the moon gives "its own light". to say anything otherwise is to outright claim that Jesus, and God by extension, are either morons or deliberately lying.
you go ahead with that all you want, but I won't blasphemy God or my savoir in such a way.
I don't care what you believe, but I do care what the bible says, and, according to your "absolute" agreement with VARob,
you do not. do not lecture me on understanding of scripture when you deliberately call Jesus a liar or a fool.
to be clear, I don't disagree with you.
Jesus does. and
that is a dangerous disagreement.
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