Is the Cross Idolatry

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Aaron56

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Locoponydirtman said:
You are only the church if you are connected to a body of believers.
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Poor John on Patmos.

Aren't we by one Spirit connected to all others in the Spirit? Aren't we by One Spirit immersed (actually fit and placed) into one Body?
Are we "connected" on Sundays and Wednesday only? Or should it be a way of life?

Also, if we attend a Sunday box that has arbitrarily created a division in the Body of Christ are we promoting the one Body of Christ or something else?
 
seekingthemindofChrist

seekingthemindofChrist

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Locoponydirtman said:
Through out the scriptures and the scriotures themselves were written to gatherings together in various places. You alone are not the church the church is the body of believers. And as the letters to the churches were written to the churches gathering at specific places ie, local gathering are the churches.
One can not have communion alone. Member of the church are compared to body parts in scripture because individuals have roles with in the body. Disembodied parts if not attached soon die. Thus the directive forsake not the gathering of yourselves together is given... as some will in the end times. The only one of you guys that are disconnected that espouses sound doctrine is Resident Alien, but even he has been a bit off as of late.
God corrected the prophet who sat in a cave saying that he is the only one. God said He had 10,000.
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Actually, God said that he had 7,000 (1 Kings 19:18, Romans 11:4).

I think that I can honestly say that I have never stepped foot in a church where Christ was truly the head.

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NotmebutHim

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I hope I'm not speaking out of context, but sometimes one of the ways we should "be like Jesus" is to ask,

"Why do you test Me?" Of course, in our case, it would be more like, "Why do you seek to tear down Christianity?"
 
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Locoponydirtman

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ResidentAlien said:
Right, so in order to have communion, people have to involve themselves with groups that teach and believe all kinds of ridiculous nonsense? This is the kind of argument I'd expect to hear from the RCC, or from a cult that wants to keep its people from straying too far. People should want good fellowship, and if they can find it great; but it shouldn't be so important that it causes a person get involved with the wrong group.

By "off" I assume you mean I don't meet Lutheran standards.
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No. I mean you usually make sound Biblical refutations of false doctrines. Now you mostly just argue, its beem abit not your usual self.
 
seekingthemindofChrist

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NotmebutHim said:
I hope I'm not speaking out of context, but sometimes one of the ways we should "be like Jesus" is to ask,

"Why do you test Me?" Of course, in our case, it would be more like, "Why do you seek to tear down Christianity?"
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Jesus already provided us with the correct answer to this question.

Mat 22:18
But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?

Mar 12:15
Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.

Luk 20:23
But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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seekingthemindofChrist said:
Actually, God said that he had 7,000 (1 Kings 19:18, Romans 11:4).

I think that I can honestly say that I have never stepped foot in a church where Christ was truly the head.

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Thanks for the scripture reference. I couldnt think of it and didnt have time to look it up.
Kind of trying to do several things at once.

Well that is sad. Christ is the head of my church.
 
seekingthemindofChrist

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ResidentAlien

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Locoponydirtman said:
No. I mean you usually make sound Biblical refutations of false doctrines. Now you mostly just argue, its beem abit not your usual self.
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Sorry I don't measure up; I didn't realize I had to meet your approval. I actually quoted you a scripture a few posts up; I guess you missed it.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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seekingthemindofChrist said:
You are welcome, and I understand.
If such is indeed the case, then I am truly happy for you.
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I know of at least 4 other churches so there must be at least 7000 for each one that i know of
 
seekingthemindofChrist

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Locoponydirtman said:
I know of at least 4 other churches so there must be at least 7000 for each one that i know of
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No offense, but I find your calculations impossible to believe.

Why?

Just look at the condition of the world.

Darkness is the absence of light, and a gross darkness covers this earth.

Most churches are dead.

Deader than a doornail.

Anyhow, I am not here to argue this point...especially in that it grieves me tremendously.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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ResidentAlien said:
Sorry I don't measure up; I didn't realize I had to meet your approval. I actually quoted you a scripture a few posts up; I guess you missed it.
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It aint about my approval.
Yeah, you took a scripture and bent it to fit your defense of not being engaged with a gathering body. Which is totally not your style.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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seekingthemindofChrist said:
No offense, but I find your calculations impossible to believe.

Why?

Just look at the condition of the world.

Darkness is the absence of light, and a gross darkness covers this earth.

Most churches are dead.

Deader than a doornail.

Anyhow, I am not here to argue this point...especially in that it grieves me tremendously.
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Me too
 
MsMediator

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Well, I think Christ can manifest himself in items such as the cross, Bible, figurines or portraits, etc. Like, you cannot just stomp on a cross or figurine of Jesus. If people think such items are meaningless I dare them to stomp on these items. I think the spirit may be in some items. At the time these items themselves are not to be worshipped but only Christ.
 
ResidentAlien

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Locoponydirtman said:
It aint about my approval.
Yeah, you took a scripture and bent it to fit your defense of not being engaged with a gathering body. Which is totally not your style.
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Well, we agree on one thing: It's not about your approval. And I couldn't care one wit about what you think "my style" is.
 
hornetguy

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Jesus seemed to think that we needed an assembly... even if small. There are so many scriptures that point to the necessity of an assembly of believers.... thinking otherwise is simply egotistical and lazy. "I'm not going to assemble, because there are so many flawed people there"...... as Bill Engvall would say...... "here's your sign"...

"20 For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst.”" Matthew 18
 
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Niki7

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mheh

Doesn't go to church and does not remember when saved. So far back, apparently, it can't be found.

Hence this engaging thread.

And to further entice response, this is a one and done op...so far...not holding my breath

Just perfect I'd say.
 
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evyaniy

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Niki7 said:
mheh

Doesn't go to church and does not remember when saved. So far back, apparently, it can't be found.

Hence this engaging thread.

And to further entice response, this is a one and done op...so far...not holding my breath

Just perfect I'd say.
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it could be worse. sometimes one and done is preferable. it depends on what is contributed.
 
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evyaniy

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Mary artwork and paintings are beautiful. There are many of her holding her Son.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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ResidentAlien said:
Well, we agree on one thing: It's not about your approval. And I couldn't care one wit about what you think "my style" is.
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You are aware that you engaged not the other way around. I would not have said one word to you but you addressed me.
 
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