Is suicide a sin?

[Solemateleft]

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And what of the person who is terminally ill with 6 months to live and given a choice of extending his life by 3 months if he goes thru painful processes like chemo, radiation etc. Thus making his 9 months a sort of misery versus the 6 months of a more or less peaceful decline...
Some years back I had a friend sign a 'Do not resuscitate' order towards the end of his illness - brain cancer (a miserable way to go...)

Is the above suicide..?

If faced with similar prospects and not immersing my self in the philosophical/religious debates I think i'd favor the fast way...
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This does not equate to taking one's own life - the unfortunate outcome (prognosis) remains inevitable...
The question of duration introduces the element of 'mercy' from varying perspectives... The individual might see God's mercy as the option for less duration of suffering to join him in heaven asap; and the individual may not wish to genuinely burden his loved ones any longer than necessary.
However, the family/loved ones will likely look at the situation completely differently. The loved ones will typically opt for longer time together with the aspiration of mercy via enduring efforts to reduce the individual's pain via medication and treatments; meanwhile they may very well not see to the caretaking of their loved one for additional time as a burden - rather they are likely to see it as a blessing...

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

Jesus gave us an example of suffering to the last breath. Jesus did not say "It is finished," until He heard His Father say, "It is finished."

Jesus tried to wiggle out of suffering when He prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane, yet His final decision and choice was, "Nevertheless, not My will but Your will be done."

Suicide kills the body and is an absolute lie from the pit of hell that tries to make us believe we can somehow escape all the pain in our souls by killing our body. All the emotional and mental pain is in the soul which only God can destroy.

Suicide is NOT an escape nor is it a solution. God has each of us on a journey to know Him and to love Him. God does NOT want to destroy our souls, rather He wants to save our souls by restoring them - emotionally, mentally - filling them to overflowing with the knowledge and love of Him.

Our souls MUST be restored. Killing the body is an absolute waste and accomplishes nothing.

We will have to just like Jesus...........suffer to the last breath. Suffering is full of great reward on the other side! Just stay the course! Stay in the game, until God takes you out!

What of a terminally ill patient that choose Hospice which means that all medical care is stopped and only palliative pain medicines are provided?

 

[Lafftur]

What of a terminally ill patient that choose Hospice which means that all medical care is stopped and only palliative pain medicines are provided?

Nothing wrong with that at all. It's still suffering till the last breath. It's still trusting God to take them out of the game. They're not taking themselves out. Dying of natural causes - very normal.

 

[Mel85]

Is suicide a sin?

Yes, because you are choosing to end your life.

Its not even your life to begin with, so don’t be stealing from God what’s not yours.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Yes, because you are choosing to end your life.

Its not even your life to begin with, so don’t be stealing from God what’s not yours.

But when someone gives you something, isn't it yours?

 

[PennEd]

But when someone gives you something, isn't it yours?

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 New International Version (NIV)
19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? YOU ARE NOT YOUR OWN;20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 New International Version (NIV)
19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? YOU ARE NOT YOUR OWN;20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

It would seem that many of the members here think that they ought to pay for their Christmas, birthday presents . . . even though someone else has already paid for them. Salvation is a 'free gift' because it has already been paid for! The only thing missing with these folk is that they haven't extended their hand to receive it - so it isn't their. God is certainly not going to force them to take it.

What was the old commercial (assuming you are old enough to remember the 60's) - "Mother please, I would rather do it myself!"

"I've fallen, and can't get up" is what most people remember these days, unless it is "Where's the beef?"

 

[Lafftur]

It would seem that many of the members here think that they ought to pay for their Christmas, birthday presents . . . even though someone else has already paid for them. Salvation is a 'free gift' because it has already been paid for! The only thing missing with these folk is that they haven't extended their hand to receive it - so it isn't their. God is certainly not going to force them to take it.

What was the old commercial (assuming you are old enough to remember the 60's) - "Mother please, I would rather do it myself!"

"I've fallen, and can't get up" is what most people remember these days, unless it is "Where's the beef?"

Oh my gosh!!! I loved that commercial of the old lady screaming, "Where's the beef?!!!" LOL!

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Is suicide a sin?

I DO believe that suicide Is a sin but Is suicide a bigger sin to GOD than a white lie?
The Issue now Is believe In the WORD of GOD.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Nothing wrong with that at all. It's still suffering till the last breath. It's still trusting God to take them out of the game. They're not taking themselves out. Dying of natural causes - very normal.

Umm..

Lafftur, dying of natural causes would be a stroke, heart attack, aneurysm, etc.. Terminally ill does NOT amount to passing away of natural causes.

 

[blue_ladybug]

What of a terminally ill patient that choose Hospice which means that all medical care is stopped and only palliative pain medicines are provided?

It's that person's choice to decide what they want their end of life care to be like. No one would want to be hooked up to tanks and machines and needles to keep them alive. That is NOT living. That is just miserably suffering while waiting to die. Refusing medical care is not akin to committing suicide.

 

[Lafftur]

Umm..

Lafftur, dying of natural causes would be a stroke, heart attack, aneurysm, etc.. Terminally ill does NOT amount to passing away of natural causes.

Hello blue!

Very interesting point you make. This is what I found:

Simply put, death by natural causes is a death that is not unexpected. It is not from an accident, a natural disaster, a homicide or suicide. It is also one that is not preventable.
A disease process that has progressed and caused organ failure is usually the root of the natural cause. These are usually pre-existing chronic diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, COPD. The disease processes most commonly associated with natural causes of death are heart disease and cancer. Others include stroke, Alzheimer’s Disease, and genetic disorders such as cystic fibrosis.
For purposes of health research, public health surveillance, and funding issues, cause-of-death data is usually more specific. The death certificate will list the disease process that is the most probable cause for the death and not necessarily “natural causes”.

I so enjoyed your comment! Thanks!

 

[calibob]

I nuicide prevention we were taught NEVER ANSWER THIS QUESTION! Because it's a no win situation. The RCC made up the sin part to prevent people from doing it after communion as a shortcut to heaven. But we were really not sure, I voted no just so I could chime in.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

It's that person's choice to decide what they want their end of life care to be like. No one would want to be hooked up to tanks and machines and needles to keep them alive. That is NOT living. That is just miserably suffering while waiting to die. Refusing medical care is not akin to committing suicide.

My wife went to hospice to finish her course. She had no choice . . . she could no longer function. But you know that there are some Hallelujah Harry's out there that would say she took her own life - choosing not to take any more medicine. We'll always have the special society of the spiritual gasbags to deal with.

 

[blue_ladybug]

My wife went to hospice to finish her course. She had no choice . . . she could no longer function. But you know that there are some Hallelujah Harry's out there that would say she took her own life - choosing not to take any more medicine. We'll always have the special society of the spiritual gasbags to deal with.

First, I'm sorry for your loss.. When I found out I had cancer, my family asked me if I wanted treatment (chemo, rads) if it came to that. I said NO, because I don't comprehend the idea of putting bad chemicals into my body, to fight the bad chemicals that are ALREADY IN my body. Especially with no absolute assurance that it would work and eradicate the cancer. Why suffer with puking and nausea and hair loss if I didn't have to?

Your wife didn't take her life, she simply chose to die on HER terms, and not those of a doctor.

 

[calibob]

First, I'm sorry for your loss.. When I found out I had cancer, my family asked me if I wanted treatment (chemo, rads) if it came to that. I said NO, because I don't comprehend the idea of putting bad chemicals into my body, to fight the bad chemicals that are ALREADY IN my body. Especially with no absolute assurance that it would work and eradicate the cancer. Why suffer with puking and nausea and hair loss if I didn't have to?

Your wife didn't take her life, she simply chose to die on HER terms, and not those of a doctor.

I too am sorry about BBB's loss but that concerns me less than you. I Lost 5 family members within as many months and I was my father's caregiver when he passed. I agree, from my experience Chemo & Rad. are horrible and I respect your decision very much. If I may I salute your bravery ank know that Jesus and the holy Spirit are always at your beck and call.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

First, I'm sorry for your loss.. When I found out I had cancer, my family asked me if I wanted treatment (chemo, rads) if it came to that. I said NO, because I don't comprehend the idea of putting bad chemicals into my body, to fight the bad chemicals that are ALREADY IN my body. Especially with no absolute assurance that it would work and eradicate the cancer. Why suffer with puking and nausea and hair loss if I didn't have to?

Your wife didn't take her life, she simply chose to die on HER terms, and not those of a doctor.

It was ovarian cancer that killed her . . .

 

[calibob]

It was ovarian cancer that killed her . . .

My Mom too.

 

[blue_ladybug]

It was ovarian cancer that killed her . . .

Mine was uterine cancer.. hugs to you..

 

[blue_ladybug]

I too am sorry about BBB's loss but that concerns me less than you. I Lost 5 family members within as many months and I was my father's caregiver when he passed. I agree, from my experience Chemo & Rad. are horrible and I respect your decision very much. If I may I salute your bravery ank know that Jesus and the holy Spirit are always at your beck and call.

You can read my cancer testimony for the entire story, but when I first found out, I told my dad, and he pointed to a picture of Jesus that I had on my fridge at the time, and he asked me "Do you trust this man right here?" I said yes, of course I do. Then daddy said, "Then trust Him to get you through this"..