Is it the ‘end of the world?’ or ‘the end of the age?’

Thunderrr-mental · Dec 31, 2023

The foundations of the world will not be vaporised.

The foundations of the world will obliterate the earth. Then and only then will a new earth come to the existing foundations 🙂

So it's true that it's an end of an age and not the end of the world, because the foundations are in the world.

And the foundations are his from heaven

Thunderrr-mental · Dec 31, 2023

10-22-27 said:

happy new year and a merry Christmas to you 🙂

iamsoandso · Dec 31, 2023

10-22-27 said:

I have no problem with any of the posts.

First, I went to the Strongs concordance, the word used for (world-age) is (165) aion. It reads "it's from the same Greek as 104 (aei) prop. as age; by extension, perpetuity (also past) by implication (the world). Specifically Jewish a Messianic period (present or future: age, course, eternal (for) ever (more) (beginning of, while the world) (began, without end)

Normally I use the Strongs for number reference only, then go to an 1836 Lexicon Greek to English I own. It reads concerning the word "World," and concerning the verse in question, "Metonymically it speaks of the world itself, as an object of creation and existence. Hebrews 11:3, Matthew 13:40, and 1 Timothy 3:16.

Thayer's Greek to English lexicon, concerning the verse in question. The end, or rather consummation of the age preceding Christ's return, with which will be connected the resurrection of the dead, the last judgment, the demolition of this world and its restoration to a more excellent condition.

I like "World," but if age means the same as world, (see above,) no problem. Thanks for all the posts, glad to see we have Christians that care. "The World needs us, especially now.

Revelation 21:1, John sees a “New heaven and a new EARTH: the first heaven and the first EARTH were passed away; and there was no more sea.”

The reasoning behind many looking so closely at age/world though I think is Matthew 12;32 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/12-32.htm And so how can it be the end of the world where all judgement has past when Jesus is saying that in the age coming there would still be something that could be done that would not be forgiven?

bluto · Dec 31, 2023

10-22-27 said:

I admit there are things written in Scripture that are hard to understand. What I do is set aside whatever it is I’m having difficulty understanding; I’ll come back to it later. What I do not do is blame the Bible, especially the K.J.B., for my lack of understanding.

This post is concerned with Matthew 24:3: “The disciples came to him privately, saying, tell us, ---- what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”

At this time, the disciples had little knowledge of what lay ahead, even though they had been with the Lord for three + years. They were under the impression that Jesus was going to set up a new kingdom soon, very soon.

Mark tells us in Mark 9:32, which was pretty late in Jesus’ ministry, that the disciples should have understood the things Jesus was teaching, but “They (the disciples) understood not that saying and were afraid to ask.”

What saying were they afraid of? Verse 31, Jesus said to them, “The Son of man (Jesus) is delivered into the hand of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.” The words of Jesus had gone way over the disciples’ heads; they didn’t get it.

So, what did the disciples mean by “end of the world.” I suppose they expected a new creation, with a new King ruling in a new kingdom.

Question: Did the K.J.B. make an error when they put ‘world’ instead of age? Matthew uses the word “World” metonymically. Metonymically, means the word (world) is associated with something else and refers to that thing; in this case, it would be the creation. Put another way, the question would be, “When shall be the end of this creation?”

Hebrews 11:3, “Through faith, we understand that the worlds (this creation) were framed by the word of God,”

Matthew 13:40, “As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world (this creation).”

Early in Jesus ministry, he told the disciples,

Matthew 12:32, Whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven, “neither in this world, neither in the world to come.” Here, Jesus plants a seed that a new world (creation) is coming.

He also told them, in Matthew 13:39, The harvest will be at “the end of the world;”

Verse 40, The tare will be gathered and burned at “the end of this world.”

In Revelation 21:1, John sees a “New heaven and a new earth: the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”

The K.J.B. has it right: there will be an end to this world.

I would say "end of the world" is correct" based on the immediate context of the rest of the chapter. Jesus tells us what will be happening from verses 3-15. Notice what verse 15 states about the antichrist showing up. To me this is a tip off that we will be in the great tribulation.

Then from verse 16 Jesus explains what we should do, that is "get out of Dodge." We now get to verse 29, "But immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days etc. Verse 30-31 Jesus Christ appears for His "ELECT." As a side note, (and this has been discussed on these boards a million times,) where is the rapture of the church before Jesus returns for His elect?

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

Thunderrr-mental · Dec 31, 2023

I would think God should be asked first most

iamsoandso · Dec 31, 2023

Thunderrr-mental said:

I agree we seem to see age/world the way we do but in Matthew 12:31-32 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/12.htm Jesus who spoke the things he heard from the Father is describing an age of time that was coming after the one they were in ended and in it there were "every sin and blasphemy" that would/could be forgiven. In it blasphemy against the Son of Man(Jesus) would/could be forgiven but Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit would not.

10-22-27 · Dec 31, 2023

iamsoandso said:

I may not be making myself clear. Let me try again. The world itself will not disappear, it's the world as we know it now, this corrupt, cursed earth. Let's reflect on the days of Noah. God said, Genesis 6:6:7, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth;" Verse 13, "The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence --- I will destroy them with the earth."

It will be a new creation standing on this earth.

montana123 · Dec 31, 2023

Omegatime said:

I posted that Jesus and the saints will rule over the people that God spared at the battle of Armageddon, and Jesus will rule out of Jerusalem.

Those people have to go up year after year to worship the LORD.

Jer 30:10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.
Jer 30:11 For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

God will make a full end of all Gentile nations their operating governments, but not make a full end of Israel which they will be the only operating government in the millennial reign of Christ.

The Bible says the people of the nations have to go to Jerusalem to worship the LORD but they will not have an operating government anymore ruling over those people, but they will only adhere to the operating government of Jesus which the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the LORD.

Also it calls them families to identify their ethnic group of people.

God says He is going to make a full end of all nations for they are not a nation in the sense of what a nation is now but they will only give heed to the operating government of Israel which Jesus is the King of it.

And for people that do not believe in the millennial reign of Christ on this earth it says the LORD shall be King over all the earth, and in that day there shall be one LORD, and His name one, and the heathen have to go up to Jerusalem to worship the LORD.

It states on earth, and there is no heathen in heaven.

The nations are not really nations in the sense of what a nation is now but are only a part of the operating government of Israel, but it words them as nations for that is what they were beforehand.

Thunderrr-mental · Dec 31, 2023

10-22-27 said:

I may not be making myself clear. Let me try again. The world itself will not disappear, it's the world as we know it now, this corrupt, cursed earth. Let's reflect on the days of Noah. God said, Genesis 6:6:7, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth;" Verse 13, "The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence --- I will destroy them with the earth."

It will be a new creation standing on this earth.

do you consider the earth as type of flesh,

Its a friendly question that's all

Thunderrr-mental · Dec 31, 2023

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GRACE_ambassador · Dec 31, 2023

op: end of age or end of world?
My 2 cents worth questionable understanding of a timetable?:

1) "blasphemy Unforgivable in this age, nor in the Next age," refers to?:

a) this age = the age of prophecy / covenants 'at the time' this "Was Spoken"?

Was not this age [ temporarily ] interrupted, and:

(b) ( Is there a parenthetical [ Mystery ] age God Inserted Here? Hint = Grace? )

At the end of which:

c) age a) prophecy / covenants continues / ends before the Next age =

the Millennial Kingdom [ with one last 'blasphemers' battle near the

end of that 'Next' ] age? And, then?:

2) "end of the world" = new heavens and new earth "eternal" age?

Any Scriptural corrections will gladly be accepted.
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Just some final thoughts at the end of 2023 ♫ 😇 ↑

Amen.

Thunderrr-mental · Dec 31, 2023

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Again this is a friendly question 🙂

Thunderrr-mental · Dec 31, 2023

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Still waiting but that's ok I think your worth the wait.

Do you believe in being liberal is my next question and what does being liberal mean to you.

studentoftheword · Dec 31, 2023

Thread Title ----

Is it the ‘end of the world?’ or ‘the end of the age?’

From Strong's Concordance

Matthew 24:3 it is called the ends (last part) of the ages before the return of Christ,
the end, or rather consummation, of the age preceding Christ's return, with which will be connected the resurrection of the dead, the last judgment, the demolition of this world and its restoration to a more excellent condition

DJT_47 · Dec 31, 2023

Its age 'aionos' in Greek such as in Matthew 24:3.

And Isaiah 45:17 says "world without end" as does Ephesians 3:21

10-22-27 · Jan 1, 2024

Thunderrr-mental said:

No! dirt, rocks, air, and water!

10-22-27 · Jan 1, 2024

Thunderrr-mental said:

Am I liberal! Had to think about that one. Am I generous, broad-minded, tolerant yes, my friends think so. A Democrat, No! To many aborted babies lying in coffins that should have had a life. Radical, No.

Hope that answers your question?

Thunderrr-mental · Jan 1, 2024

10-22-27 said:

it's good that your thinking 🙂

Radius · Jan 1, 2024

this earth will not end. It will be refurbished.

HeIsHere · Jan 1, 2024

Many ages come to an end, so this age we are in "the information age" will end maybe, but scripture does not speak about the end of the world.

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