Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?
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Since you have pressed this question about if a parent has a right to kill their child, let it not be then controversial if I respond that yes, actually, in the Bible a parent may kill their child, particularly if they are rebellious and shameful. Deuteronomy 21:18-21. If you mean any scripture on mankind given dominion over the animals, Genesis 1:26-31.
Yes, we agree on this second point, God always has wanted obedience rather than sacrifice. After all there is no need to make a sacrifice for penance if the people just obeyed the Word of God instead. Hence why in the time of the prophets and their prophesies against their societies they point out how though the people are making sacrifices, praying all the time, and going to church that this all means pretty much nothing because their generations are shameful children, they're caught up in the pageantry and superficial show of religion while ignoring the weightier matters, and even above this they get so bad at it that they use it for the exact total opposite of God's intended purpose to use it to remit sins or commemorate things to God and instead use the system as a license to do evil. They were a generation not unlike this generation where they pretend to be pastors and priests and believers while simultaneously, they are sleeping with multiple lovers and worshipping the lies of the serpent. Jeremiah is an interesting choice and knew this all very well because he lived to see the day of the fulfillment of the Word of the Lord to him, he lived to see that the Sword indeed came and killed them all just like the Lord God promised, and above this Jeremiah is one of the few people that survived the fall of his civilization too, saved by the grace and Word of God, Jesus.
Yes, we agree on this second point, God always has wanted obedience rather than sacrifice. After all there is no need to make a sacrifice for penance if the people just obeyed the Word of God instead. Hence why in the time of the prophets and their prophesies against their societies they point out how though the people are making sacrifices, praying all the time, and going to church that this all means pretty much nothing because their generations are shameful children, they're caught up in the pageantry and superficial show of religion while ignoring the weightier matters, and even above this they get so bad at it that they use it for the exact total opposite of God's intended purpose to use it to remit sins or commemorate things to God and instead use the system as a license to do evil. They were a generation not unlike this generation where they pretend to be pastors and priests and believers while simultaneously, they are sleeping with multiple lovers and worshipping the lies of the serpent. Jeremiah is an interesting choice and knew this all very well because he lived to see the day of the fulfillment of the Word of the Lord to him, he lived to see that the Sword indeed came and killed them all just like the Lord God promised, and above this Jeremiah is one of the few people that survived the fall of his civilization too, saved by the grace and Word of God, Jesus.
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Have you ever swatted a mosquito? Stepped on an ant? Killed a roach? 
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Your only witness proves nothing. This will be the second and last time:
Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
Sin is the transgression of the Law, if there was sin in the time of Cain, there was Law to transgress.
You can't repeat yourself and ignore, that doesn't make you right, quite the opposite. You need to adress my argument, if you can. Otherwise I deduce you can't.
Ignoring them won't make them go away:
Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
-If God saw it was good, it means there can be no guilt in them, because guilty is not good. They must be innocent in order to be seen as good by God.
Do you read all His Words or just the verse you like? I'll let you make sense of it, since you will probably ignore me, this are the Words of Jesus you have to ignore in order to eliminate the goodness of man:
Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Matthew 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
Matthew 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
Sin is the transgression of the Law, if there was sin in the time of Cain, there was Law to transgress.
You can't repeat yourself and ignore, that doesn't make you right, quite the opposite. You need to adress my argument, if you can. Otherwise I deduce you can't.
Ignoring them won't make them go away:
Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
-If God saw it was good, it means there can be no guilt in them, because guilty is not good. They must be innocent in order to be seen as good by God.
Do you read all His Words or just the verse you like? I'll let you make sense of it, since you will probably ignore me, this are the Words of Jesus you have to ignore in order to eliminate the goodness of man:
Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Matthew 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
Matthew 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
"Arise Peter, kill and eat, that which I have called clean, call not thou "unclean".
I liked your mention of night fishing for salmon and I have had similar experiences hunting, fishing, etc. I like to refer to them as "words of knowledge", being given a foreknowledge of what is to come.
He delights in giving us the desires of our hearts, if we will but serve Him.
bless you brother
I liked your mention of night fishing for salmon and I have had similar experiences hunting, fishing, etc. I like to refer to them as "words of knowledge", being given a foreknowledge of what is to come.
He delights in giving us the desires of our hearts, if we will but serve Him.
bless you brother
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As good as He always is, it is probably a double portion of Double mint.
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There was no law given when Cain slew Abel.
Do you disbelieve Paul? Seems you do.
And you hold double standards.
Demanding specific verses while not being able to give any, only your human reasoning.
Repeating yourself. Not proving what you say. Not even answering questions put to you.
You need to address my request and give verses, if you can. Otherwise I deduce you can't.
Your witness proves nothing. You refuse even to be held to your own standard.
Do you disbelieve Paul? Seems you do.
And you hold double standards.
Demanding specific verses while not being able to give any, only your human reasoning.
Repeating yourself. Not proving what you say. Not even answering questions put to you.
You need to address my request and give verses, if you can. Otherwise I deduce you can't.
Your witness proves nothing. You refuse even to be held to your own standard.
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I can respect that. Now the only thing you need to understand is: "Thou shalt not kill." After that you will realize you can't kill your children, neither your animals. Since their being your possession doesn't supersede the Law.
The lamb Abel killed wasn't rebellious nor shameful, that is not the point. Actually, the lamb was innocent, with innocent blood, because the fact that the lamb is Abel's possession, doesn't negate the fact that it has innocent blood in his veins.
As for the rest of your post, I've been there, that is the reasonable logic we take to make sense of it, i know. You need to build on the Rock. And the Rock said: Thou shalt not kill; Sheeding innocent blood is an abomination; He that kills an ox is as if he slew a man. If you build on top of these, your house will never fall again.
The lamb Abel killed wasn't rebellious nor shameful, that is not the point. Actually, the lamb was innocent, with innocent blood, because the fact that the lamb is Abel's possession, doesn't negate the fact that it has innocent blood in his veins.
As for the rest of your post, I've been there, that is the reasonable logic we take to make sense of it, i know. You need to build on the Rock. And the Rock said: Thou shalt not kill; Sheeding innocent blood is an abomination; He that kills an ox is as if he slew a man. If you build on top of these, your house will never fall again.
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Maybe you think of Law, as only the Law of Moses, there was no Law of Moses, obviously. But I'm here to tell you, that Law is not only the Law of Moses, Law is every Word that procedes out of the Mouth of God. For example, the First Law was given in the Garden of Eden: Don't eat of the Forbidden Fruit. That was the Law to them. Then it changed.
By the time of Cain, murderer was already unlawful, because God prophecied "sin lieth at the door":
Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
What "sin lieth a the door" if there was no law to transgress? -Murder was sin already back then. It was already against the Law.
-Abraham also had "laws", just not the Law of Moses:
Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
By the time of Cain, murderer was already unlawful, because God prophecied "sin lieth at the door":
Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
What "sin lieth a the door" if there was no law to transgress? -Murder was sin already back then. It was already against the Law.
-Abraham also had "laws", just not the Law of Moses:
Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
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