Interesting verse Daniel 2:43 They are not of this earth?

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Cameron143

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If it makes you feel better, I've given you Cray Cray cred. You've earned it.
I am greatly humbled by your gift.
Hmmmmm...wonder if that's how Inquisitor got started on his humble journey? I better thank you now Mem. All of a sudden I'm thinking about switches.
 

Rondonmon

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It had NOTHING to do with ruining mankind before Jesus was born. No where in the scripture does it say that. It does say, "The Sons of GOD (Angels) saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful and they took for themselves wives."

About the nations mixing, it has nothing to do with that either. The "They" in "They will seek to mingle with the seed of men". means the "They" are not human.
I have been called unto Prophecy over 37 years, what are you talking about? EVERYTHING Satan did in Genesis to Jesus birth an d after his birth (he tried to kill baby Jesus) had to do with STOPPING the Sacrifice. The reason the flood came was to kill off ALL of the changed DNA, that would have eventual polluted all mankind, so all were killed save 8 (New Beginnings = 8).

I do not think you even understand the subject tbh.
 

JohnB

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I have been called unto Prophecy over 37 years, what are you talking about? EVERYTHING Satan did in Genesis to Jesus birth an d after his birth (he tried to kill baby Jesus) had to do with STOPPING the Sacrifice. The reason the flood came was to kill off ALL of the changed DNA, that would have eventual polluted all mankind, so all were killed save 8 (New Beginnings = 8).

I do not think you even understand the subject tbh.
Have you ever heard of Chuck Missler? I attended many of his studies and have many of his lectures.
 

Rondonmon

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Have you ever heard of Chuck Missler? I attended many of his studies and have many of his lectures.
I read the bible, I don't follow men. You can't answer the POINTS so you try to use an Alinsky tact, and do nit even realize what you are doing. Just ADMIT the points I made are FACTUAL via the scriptures.
 

soberxp

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And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43. It is clear from the verse "they" are not people. They are not of this earth? A repeat of Genesis 6?
Probably talking about the Japanese lovebot,
People fall in love with a robot.
 

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I have been called unto Prophecy over 37 years, what are you talking about? EVERYTHING Satan did in Genesis to Jesus birth an d after his birth (he tried to kill baby Jesus) had to do with STOPPING the Sacrifice. The reason the flood came was to kill off ALL of the changed DNA, that would have eventual polluted all mankind, so all were killed save 8 (New Beginnings = 8).

I do not think you even understand the subject tbh.
Yeah, when you mentioned Satan trying to stop the sacrifice, that brought to mind Athaliah who tried to kill off the entire royal family of David (2 Kings 11:1-3). Fortunately, the late king Ahaziah's sister hid his son, Joash and protected until it was time to take the kingdom back.

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43. It is clear from the verse "they" are not people. They are not of this earth? A repeat of Genesis 6?
I don't think it talks about angels again. I think it just means a mixture of nations. That's all. Other translations of the Bible don't word it the way KJV and a few others translate it. NIV for example translates it this way:

Daniel 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
 
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This is just talking about ten kings who mingle with the seed of men, But these ten kings are loosely bound.. Whch is why it is strong as rome, but at the same time, weak..
Nothing to do with Rome. All to do with the ones who hate Israel the most - the Arabs and Muslims.
 

soberxp

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Nothing to do with Rome. All to do with the ones who hate Israel the most - the Arabs and Muslims.
They all read the book from God, but worshiped the wrong path. Most of the Israelites do not believe that Jesus Christ is their savior. God loves Israel and sent Arabs to tell the Jews that both Jews and Christians read the Bible. Then the Arabs themselves forgot to read the Bible and made the same mistake as Israel. Even though this sentence is clearly stated in their Quran, they still do not know to read the Bible
 
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They all Read the book from God, but all worship the wrong way.
I have no idea what you're referring to. Are you saying Catholics worship God the wrong way?

I'll look at the link but likely know its content. This isn't my first time.
 
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They all Read the book from God, but all worship the wrong way.
I looked at the link and immediately closed out. I saw the hundreds on red question marks - that's enough for me!
 

soberxp

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I looked at the link and immediately closed out. I saw the hundreds on red question marks - that's enough for me!
I don't know which link you're referring to.....
 

cv5

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I have been called unto Prophecy over 37 years, what are you talking about? EVERYTHING Satan did in Genesis to Jesus birth an d after his birth (he tried to kill baby Jesus) had to do with STOPPING the Sacrifice. The reason the flood came was to kill off ALL of the changed DNA, that would have eventual polluted all mankind, so all were killed save 8 (New Beginnings = 8).

I do not think you even understand the subject tbh.
Pretty much yep. And there is plenty of reason to believe that:
10 kings = 10 toes = 10 horns

And these literal 10 end time kings are literally fallen angels. And bring with them all of the VERY SAME associated mischief seen before the flood. Like "going after strange flesh" and "fornication" aka DNA tampering and monstrous experimentation with the seed of men.

Rev 17:12
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Rev 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Mat 24:37
But as G5618 the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

G5618 - hōsper - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)
Strong’s Definitions
ὥσπερ hṓsper, hoce'-per; from G5613 and G4007; just as, i.e. exactly like:—(even, like) as.
 

soberxp

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But this is the important thing that you are praying for, I came here to endure not being understood, I don't know why this is the way it is, people always say that nobody knows the time, but everybody has given himself a time when he should come, and then using the idea that everybody can see him, to prove that I am a false prophet, I am not a prophet, I am just stating what has happened, I didn't even understand the Bible well at that time, and God found me, and that's it, what else can I do?
 
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But this is the important thing that you are praying for, I came here to endure not being understood, I don't know why this is the way it is, people always say that nobody knows the time, but everybody has given himself a time when he should come, and then using the idea that everybody can see him, to prove that I am a false prophet, I am not a prophet, I am just stating what has happened, I didn't even understand the Bible well at that time, and God found me, and that's it, what else can I do?
None of us are false prophets.

The iron and clay likely represent the Sunni and Shia sects of Islam.
 

soberxp

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None of us are false prophets.

The iron and clay likely represent the Sunni and Shia sects of Islam.
LoL, Your idea is enlightening
It can be mean a lot of things,Palestine and Israel, Ukraine and Russia, China and the United States, People to people, people to robots.
 
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LoL, Your idea is enlightening
It can be mean a lot of things,Palestine and Israel, Ukraine and Russia, China and the United States, People to people, people to robots.
The words 'mixed with the seed of men' describes the iron and clay. The word mixed means an...

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The Arabs are among the most intermarried people in the world. Some translations use the word 'intermarried' instead of "mixed with the seed of men."

The description of the iron and clay depicts the Arabs far more than the Europeans, Cina, Russia, or United States.

The word MIXED OR MINGLED used to describe the toes mingled with iron and clay is the Aramaic word "arab." It means mixed and denotes an Arabian or Arabia. (Gesenius) This word is not associate with ROME, ITALY.

Daniel 2:43
"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay."

Daniel tells Nebuchadnezzar much more about the iron and clay than any of the other kingdoms because it depicts the end-time kingdom that the Lord returns to destroy. The word MIXED actually describes the people, the origin, and the geographical area from which the end-time anti-Christ would arise. The description of the iron and clay describes the Arab/Muslim world far better than Rome or the EU.

"And [as] the toes of the feet [were] part of iron, and part of clay, [so] the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken."

"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay."

"And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise."

Daniel says the kingdom would, 'subdue all things, be divided and not cleave to one another, partly strong and partly broken, and mixed (arab/intermarried) with the seed of men, break in pieces and bruise'. arabian.png
 
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No, its the 4th kingdom, or rome..
Rome isn't the fourth kingdom. If you believe Rome is the 4th kingdom - legs of iron - then you have to explain why Daniel used the word MIXED/ARAB to describe the iron and clay! Iron and clay are an offshoot of the legs of iron! (Greece) Mixed or mingled indicates an Arab or Arabia. NOT Rome or an Italian!

The sequence of kingdoms I believe in Daniel 2, predates the one that claims Rome is the legs of iron. It goes back to the time of Josephus which is...

Babylon = Head of Gold
Mede's = Arms of silver
Persian' s = Thighs of brass
Greeks = Legs of iron.
 
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You should also explain how the 'arms of silver - AKA the 'Medo-Persian Empire' was 'inferior' to Babylon.