Institutionalizion of the Church
- Thread starter Aaron56
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
You have been shown the factual historical evidence before. Why do you keep denying it?
Oh, wait. That is obviously a rhetorical question. I know why: you must defend the RCC.
However, for those who are honestly interested in the truth of
the matter, here is an extremely detailed and informative page.
Number of Protestants Killed By Catholic Pope (alphanewsdaily.com) <= link
Oh, wait. That is obviously a rhetorical question. I know why: you must defend the RCC.
However, for those who are honestly interested in the truth of
the matter, here is an extremely detailed and informative page.
Number of Protestants Killed By Catholic Pope (alphanewsdaily.com) <= link
Please read what I cited earlier on: "
He said that he knew of an internet article that he couldn't locate, by one David A. Plaisted: who turned out to be a professor of computer science, not an academic historian at all. But when pressed, my fiend offered no actual historian to back up his assertion and quickly descended (as so often in these sorts of “discussions”) to mere insults and evasive tactics. Before I was banned from his site, I produced for him – upon being challenged to do so – two (non-Catholic) professors of history with vastly different opinions.
Edward Peters, from the University of Pennsylvania, is the author of Inquisition (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1989). Henry Kamen, a Fellow of the Royal Historical Society and professor at the University of Wisconsin – Madison, wrote The Spanish Inquisition: A Historical Revision (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1998).
These two books are in the forefront of an emerging, very different perspective on the Inquisitions: an understanding that they were exponentially less inclined to issue death penalties than had previously been commonly assumed, and also quite different in character and even essence than the longstanding anti-Catholic stereotypes would have us believe.
On page 87 of his book, Dr. Peters states: “The best estimate is that around 3000 death sentences were carried out in Spain by Inquisitorial verdict between 1550 and 1800, a far smaller number than that in comparable secular courts.”
Likewise, Dr. Kamen states in his book: Taking into account all the tribunals of Spain up to about 1530, it is unlikely that more than two thousand people were executed for heresy by the Inquisition. (p. 60)
. . . it is clear that for most of its existence that Inquisition was far from being a juggernaut of death either in intention or in capability. . . . it would seem that during the 16th and 17th centuries fewer than three people a year were executed in the whole of the Spanish monarchy from Sicily to Peru, certainly a lower rate than in any provincial court of justice in Spain or anywhere else in Europe. (p. 203)"
https://www.ncregister.com/blog/were-50-million-people-really-killed-in-the-inquisition
If you still want to believe 50 MN people died in the Inquisition, you can. But it isn't so. Will get back to the rest later. God Bless.
-
1
- Show all
I am aware that Catholic historians differ in their opinions. They follow the lead
of the Catholic church! I.E.: they make it up as they go along. Your post gives the
impression that anyone not an academic historian is incapable of determining
the truth of the matter from a multitude of other available factual historical
resources. In doing so, you disqualify yourself from offering an opinion.
of the Catholic church! I.E.: they make it up as they go along. Your post gives the
impression that anyone not an academic historian is incapable of determining
the truth of the matter from a multitude of other available factual historical
resources. In doing so, you disqualify yourself from offering an opinion.
-
1
-
1
- Show all
The population of Europe in the sixteenth century would have been somewhere between 50 and 80 million. The Inquisition could not have killed 50 million people because the Inquisition. Did not operate within many countries in Europe. Eastern Europe was Eastern Orthodox and not under the control of the Catholic Church.
Western Europe was under the control of the Catholic Church, but not all countries in Western Europe were subjected to an Inquisition.
As I said before, the Inquisition operated in a similar way to our modern courts. It would take weeks, if not months, to find a person guilty and to execute them. The Inquisition handed over the folk sentenced to death to the civil authorities for execution. This is a time consuming process. Not everyone who appeared before an Inquisition was sentenced to death. Most folk were told to repent and perform penance. That is what the historical sources in the !6th and 17th centuries prove to us.
The Inquisition itself was not as devastating to Europe's population as what some people would think.
You need to examine the court records yourself. I trust no one on this subject.
Western Europe was under the control of the Catholic Church, but not all countries in Western Europe were subjected to an Inquisition.
As I said before, the Inquisition operated in a similar way to our modern courts. It would take weeks, if not months, to find a person guilty and to execute them. The Inquisition handed over the folk sentenced to death to the civil authorities for execution. This is a time consuming process. Not everyone who appeared before an Inquisition was sentenced to death. Most folk were told to repent and perform penance. That is what the historical sources in the !6th and 17th centuries prove to us.
The Inquisition itself was not as devastating to Europe's population as what some people would think.
You need to examine the court records yourself. I trust no one on this subject.
-
1
-
1
-
1
- Show all
Perhaps more like you listened to the wrong person
That has the inquisitions, but also many other mass killings of christians going into antiquity.
-
1
- Show all
Resident Alien said this:
:Yes, I hate the Catholicism; I never said otherwise. I love the people who are caught in its clutches and have been led down the wrong road. But I hate everything that institution stands for: The way it has corrupted the truth; its lust for power; its open mockery of Yahweh and Christ Jesus; its arrogance; its lies; its greed; its murders; its sexual crimes.
I think it was sometime in the early 2000s the pope apologized for all the ills perpetrated by Catholicism in the past; but this was nothing more than a transparent bid to gain credibility so it could continue to push its false unity plan. They think a simple apology will make people forget.
The Holocaust can't hold a candle to the Inquisition. The Holocaust: Some 6,000,000, give or take, over a few years. The Inquisition: 50,000,000 over 500 years.
:
:Yes, I hate the Catholicism; I never said otherwise. I love the people who are caught in its clutches and have been led down the wrong road. But I hate everything that institution stands for: The way it has corrupted the truth; its lust for power; its open mockery of Yahweh and Christ Jesus; its arrogance; its lies; its greed; its murders; its sexual crimes.
I think it was sometime in the early 2000s the pope apologized for all the ills perpetrated by Catholicism in the past; but this was nothing more than a transparent bid to gain credibility so it could continue to push its false unity plan. They think a simple apology will make people forget.
The Holocaust can't hold a candle to the Inquisition. The Holocaust: Some 6,000,000, give or take, over a few years. The Inquisition: 50,000,000 over 500 years.
-
1
- Show all