In heaven we will have a body of flesh and blood. Very interesting because angels can take on human form

[The_Watchers_2017]

The Bible specifically says that flesh and blood can not enter heaven. A glorified body is somehow different. Our flesh and blood body down here has been tainted with sin so it has to be changed into a heavenly body. It will be like Jesus resurrection body.

and Adam, before SIN, was still flesh and blood like Jesus was after His Resurrection.

stop thinking Sin for the purpose of what this topic is about, the BODY, for a moment here.

had Adam not sinned, this Body would be allowable in Heaven [based upon being SINLESS].

Which means, Adam's flesh and blood would have been permitted to enter into Heaven had he not sinned.

So, Jesus' Own Body, being Flesh and Blood, would have been the perfect example of Adam, had Adam not sinned.

 

[JohnB]

I assumed as much, that the resource, in order to maintain its scholarly principles and in so doing establish a more solid credibility, has obliqued to acknowledge all views including those contrary to the author's own.

Sometimes I think it should have been a requirement to know Hebrew and greek before reading the bible.

 

[ewq1938]

Don't know when He would have done it, but he is the first Adam and, as such, what was true of Christ is pictured in him.

Like the sinning part? Isn't Adam really more like satan and the opposite of Jesus?

 

[ewq1938]

had Adam not sinned, this Body would be allowable in Heaven [based upon being SINLESS].

How would his body get into heaven? He was on the Earth and would have grown old and died, exactly what happened. I see no valid reason why God would have raptured him before dying.

 

[Cameron143]

Like the sinning part? Isn't Adam really more like satan and the opposite of Jesus?

Satan is nothing like Adam other than they both sinned. And no one can ultimately be compared to Christ in His glory because there is none like unto God. But both Adam and Christ represented mankind before God. So what was true of one in this role must be true of both.

 

[Magenta]

Don't know when He would have done it, but he is the first Adam and, as such, what was true of Christ is pictured in him.

Adam was made in God's image, but that did not make him like God. Scripture does not say that Adam was created immortal, and we know he did not eat from the Tree of Life which would have given him life ever after. Being of the natural world just as we are before our Spiritual rebirth, there is nothing to indicate he would have lived forever without eating of the Tree that promised life. Yes, it is true that death entered as a result of his sin, but, it is also true that God knew this was going to happen, and that Adam would die as a result.

 

[Cameron143]

Adam was made in God's image, but that did not make him like God. Scripture does not say that Adam was created immortal, and we know he did not eat from the Tree of Life which would have given him life ever after. Being of the natural world just as we are before our Spiritual rebirth, there is nothing to indicate he would have lived forever without eating of the Tree that promised life. Yes, it is true that death entered as a result of his sin, but, it is also true that God knew this was going to happen, and that Adam would die as a result.

Yes, eternal life would have had to be imparted to him. He didn't possess immortality. Just as Christ fulfilled the law, had Adam not sinned, at some point he would have fulfilled the law, and God would have bestowed eternal life on him.

 

[ewq1938]

Satan is nothing like Adam other than they both sinned. And no one can ultimately be compared to Christ in His glory because there is none like unto God. But both Adam and Christ represented mankind before God.

Only as opposites.

He willingly chose to sin which caused the fall of humanity itself which affects every single human being ever born or will be born, causing the Earth to be cursed, and failed to protect his wife from a tempter, was the first to die a spiritual death which unless forgiven will send him to the lake of fire, and was cast out of paradise and cursed for the rest of his life.


He reminds me of Lucifer and his fall.

 

[ewq1938]

Yes, eternal life would have had to be imparted to him. He didn't possess immortality. Just as Christ fulfilled the law, had Adam not sinned, at some point he would have fulfilled the law, and God would have bestowed eternal life on him.

Neither Adam or any regular human could fulfill the law. Adam would die long before the law came anyways.

 

[Cameron143]

Only as opposites.

He willingly chose to sin which caused the fall of humanity itself which affects every single human being ever born or will be born, causing the Earth to be cursed, and failed to protect his wife from a tempter, was the first to die a spiritual death which unless forgiven will send him to the lake of fire, and was cast out of paradise and cursed for the rest of his life.


He reminds me of Lucifer and his fall.

Adam was mankind's first representative. You are right in pointing out his failure. But unlike Satan, Adam was redeemed. No angels will be redeemed because Jesus wasn't made like them and didn't die for them. So while Satan's fall and Adam's fall both produced death, Adam's fall paved the way for the second Adam and life.
One shouldn't be so hard on Adam. The fact is, any one of us would have failed.

 

[Cameron143]

Neither Adam or any regular human could fulfill the law. Adam would die long before the law came anyways.

Adam had a law.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

How would his body get into heaven? He was on the Earth and would have grown old and died, exactly what happened. I see no valid reason why God would have raptured him before dying.

why would he die? if he was sinless, the Design, was to never die.

 

[ewq1938]

But unlike Satan, Adam was redeemed.

Scripture that supports that?

 

[ewq1938]

Adam had a law.

Did he fulfill it?

 

[ewq1938]

why would he die? if he was sinless, the Design, was to never die.

He was created mortal, like all humans.

 

[FollowingtheWay]

He was created mortal, like all humans.

when sin entered the world it dynamically shifted a bunch of things. In Eden pre-fall everything was in perfect order. The only issue was Satan who was in the garden. as the world got more and more wicked after the fall God limited how long humans would live. There is no reason to believe that God made an imperfect humanity or imperfect Eden. He had a Lucifer problem he had to rid the world of.

 

[FollowingtheWay]

when sin entered the world it dynamically shifted a bunch of things. In Eden pre-fall everything was in perfect order. The only issue was Satan who was in the garden. as the world got more and more wicked after the fall God limited how long humans would live. There is no reason to believe that God made an imperfect humanity or imperfect Eden. He had a Lucifer problem he had to rid the world of.

This is why I believe Eden was the ideal state of the World and exactly what God intended when He created it and Humanity was initially perfect with Adam and Eve pre-fall. At the renewal(rev 22) we get to see the tree of life again. Last time we saw it was in Eden 2trees of life this time on each side of the river.
“The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2‬:‭9‬ ‭NIV‬‬


“After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3‬:‭24‬ ‭NIV‬‬


“down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭2‬ ‭NIV‬‬

 

[Cameron143]

Scripture that supports that?

God shed the blood of an animal and clothed him. One is symbolic of the shed blood of Christ. The other represents him being clothed in Christ's righteousness.

 

[Cameron143]

Did he fulfill it?

Nope.

 

[ewq1938]

God shed the blood of an animal and clothed him. One is symbolic of the shed blood of Christ. The other represents him being clothed in Christ's righteousness.

But he was not forgiven of the sin because he was punished, kicked out of the garden and had to live a cursed and hard life. That doesn't sound like when a person sins and they repent and are cleansed by the blood of Christ plus Christ hadn't shed his blood yet and there wasn't even the first covenant yet. Lastly, God gave them "skins" but he could have created those and not killed any animals in fact the Hebrew word doesn't specifically have to be limited to it coming from an animal.

H5785
עוֹר
‛ôr
ore
From H5783; skin (as naked); by implication hide, leather: - hide, leather, skin.
Total KJV occurrences: 99

There are skins taken from plants and trees that have been made into clothing so this could be something like that.