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Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.
4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
He was in the flesh just like US,
And was tempted just like US.
He had to deal with over coming, just like WE do, THE BIBLE tells US SO.
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.
4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
REV 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. HE had to pray and over come LIKE we DO. IF we do not over come, LOST with out hope
 

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Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.
4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
He was in the flesh just like US,
And was tempted just like US.
He had to deal with over coming, just like WE do, THE BIBLE tells US SO.
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin.
4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
The Bible also says we overcome through Him.



Romans 10:4
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WHAT LAW ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ???????????????????
Please stop yelling at us. It is rude and completely unnecessary. You say you do it for emphasis, but nothing is emphasized when your whole post, many, too many of your posts, are in fact, all in caps. You have been asked to stop by multiple people many times for quite a while now, but you are unteachable. Being unteachable, how can you figure yourself a teacher? You are foolish to focus so much of your attention on the OT and law keeping. We are under a new covenant, instituted by Christ Himself. Love is the fulfillment of all the law and prophets. When one rests in Him, they are not automatically breaking the law and commandments as you seem to suppose. You lack understanding of what it is to rest in Christ. So many of you law pushers do. You come here constantly yelling at us and erroneously assuming all sorts of things because we do not follow old testament laws given to the Israelis as part of their covenant. You go so far as to say women should not wear pants when you refuse to wear a robe and shawl. You are a hypocrite, William.
 
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Please stop yelling at us. It is rude and completely unnecessary. You say you do it for emphasis, but nothing is emphasized when your whole post, many, too many of your posts, are in fact, all in caps. You have been asked to stop by multiple people many times for quite a while now, but you are unteachable. Being unteachable, how can you figure yourself a teacher? You are foolish to focus so much of your attention on the OT and law keeping. We are under a new covenant, instituted by Christ Himself. Love is the fulfillment of all the law and prophets. When one rests in Him, they are not automatically breaking the law and commandments as you seem to suppose. You lack understanding of what it is to rest in Christ. So many of you law pushers do. You come here constantly yelling at us and erroneously assuming all sorts of things because we do not follow old testament laws given to the Israelis as part of their covenant. You go so far as to say women should not wear pants when you refuse to wear a robe. You are a hypocrite, William.
New Covenant with the same laws wrote on our hearts, I have wrote a lot of people in capital letters, my son and others and they have said nothing, One letter is no louder then the other, and don't make no since,
 

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New Covenant with the same laws wrote on our hearts, I have wrote a lot of people in capital letters, my son and others and they have said nothing, One letter is no louder then the other, and don't make no since,
You mean sense? You should learn to spell; haft, mite, since, you make many errors that way, too, and they have been pointed out to you as well, but you are unteachable! There is such a thing as protocol, and forum protocol is no posting in all caps; you have been told this multiple times, but it does not penetrate your thick skull. Why? Because you are unteachable. Being unteachable, how do you figure you are equipped to teach? Yes, the laws are written on our hearts, we know right from wrong, so guess what William? We don't need you yelling at us telling us women should not wear pants when there is no such Scripture saying so, just as there is none saying women must wear a dress. You teach error and refuse correction.
 

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You mean sense? You should learn to spell; haft, mite, since, you make many errors that way, too, and they have been pointed out to you as well, but you are unteachable! There is such a thing as protocol, and forum protocol is no posting in all caps; you have been told this multiple times, but it does not penetrate your thick skull. Why? Because you are unteachable. Being unteachable, how do you figure you are equipped to teach? Yes, the laws are written on our hearts, we know right from wrong, so guess what William? We don't need you yelling at us telling us women should not wear pants when there is no such Scripture saying so, just as there is none saying women must wear a dress. You teach error and refuse correction.
I am interested if we should interpret this as, that dudes should be wearing girly pants as well since all pants are for men?
 
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You mean sense? You should learn to spell; haft, mite, since, you make many errors that way, too, and they have been pointed out to you as well, but you are unteachable! There is such a thing as protocol, and forum protocol is no posting in all caps; you have been told this multiple times, but it does not penetrate your thick skull. Why? Because you are unteachable. Being unteachable, how do you figure you are equipped to teach? Yes, the laws are written on our hearts, we know right from wrong, so guess what William? We don't need you yelling at us telling us women should not wear pants when there is no such Scripture saying so, just as there is none saying women must wear a dress. You teach error and refuse correction.
Well if you uou know it GOD wants you to do IT, only the doers will be justified, Since you know
 

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I am interested if we should interpret this as, that dudes should be wearing girly pants as well since all pants are for men?
If men want us to dress as they did 2,000 years ago, so should the men be in robes and shawls, but are they? No. They are hypocrites. William even said there was no command for him to wear a robe and shawl. Hey, guess what? There is likewise no command for women to wear a dress either, and no command not to wear pants made for women, but that does not stop him from being contrary to common sense, and he adds public bathroom doors to his argument as a reason why we should heed him, as if we ought to take our clothing choice cues from stick figures on toilet entrances :oops::LOL:
 

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If men want us to dress as they did 2,000 years ago, so should the men be in robes and shawls, but are they? No. They are hypocrites. William even said there was no command for him to wear a robe and shawl. Hey, guess what? There is likewise no command for women to wear a dress either, and no command not to wear pants made for women, but that does not stop him from being contrary to common sense, and he adds public bathroom doors to his argument as a reason why we should heed him, as if we ought to take our clothing choice cues from stick figures on toilet entrances :oops::LOL:
That's most interesting. In Muslim states they have burqa on female bathrooms. Is this advocating that women in these countries must wear burqas to fit the bathroom stick figure? You know, there are Christians in Afghanistan, too. No, seriously, by all means let's go deeper, just to see how stupid it is.

 

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That's most interesting. In Muslim states they have burqa on female bathrooms. Is this advocating that women in these countries must wear burqas to fit the bathroom stick figure? You know, there are Christians in Afghanistan, too. No, seriously, by all means let's go deeper, just to see how stupid it is.

I never see shoes on toilet door stick figures... do you?

Does that mean we are sinning to wear shoes, too? :unsure::devilish:

No hats. No coats. What about under garments? Never see them there, either :oops:
 
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Do you mean trousers/jeans ?
I think this speaks loud enough for me
In the Western world, Historically, in that part of the world, women have worn dresses and skirt-like garments while men have worn pants (trousers). During the late 1800s, women started to wear pants for industrial work. During World War II, women wore their husband's pants while they took on jobs, and in the 1970s, pants became especially fashionable for women. Today, pants are worn far more often than skirts by women, and many women wear pants almost all the time.

Although trousers for women in western countries did not become fashion items until the later 20th century, women began wearing men's trousers (suitably altered) for outdoor work a hundred years earlier.
 

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I think this speaks loud enough for me
In the Western world, Historically, in that part of the world, women have worn dresses and skirt-like garments while men have worn pants (trousers). During the late 1800s, women started to wear pants for industrial work. During World War II, women wore their husband's pants while they took on jobs, and in the 1970s, pants became especially fashionable for women. Today, pants are worn far more often than skirts by women, and many women wear pants almost all the time.

Although trousers for women in western countries did not become fashion items until the later 20th century, women began wearing men's trousers (suitably altered) for outdoor work a hundred years earlier.
You substitute cultural traditions for Biblical mandates.

Who cares when women started wearing pants?

Men did not always wear pants, either.

They wore robes, and shawls.
 

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since 300ad man have worn pants
Right, so men have not always worn pants. That's what I said ;)

But somehow in your mind, men changing their attire is okay, but women must not.
 
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Right, so men have not always worn pants. That's what I said ;)

But somehow in your mind, men changing their attire is okay, but women must not.
When was pants first made?
The earliest existing pair of pants was found in China and dates to around 1000 BCE - within 1000 years of the time when it is believed horses were initially domesticated. These pants are constructed of wool with legs made of multiple panels.
 

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When was pants first made?
The earliest existing pair of pants was found in China and dates to around 1000 BCE - within 1000 years of the time when it is believed horses were initially domesticated. These pants are constructed of wool with legs made of multiple panels.
For all we know, they were made for a woman ;)