If a biblical number I have been seeing, basically means the same thing as my previous prophecy, did God confirm my previous prophecy?

[HealthAndHappiness]

I am reading about King David for the first time at the moment and when he committed Adultery with Bathsheba God wasn't happy. David prayed to God that his son would get well but no the child dies.
I guess God has to be fair. Like a parent if a child is nasty they lose out on something.

Exactly!
That's how God responded to his son David.
God didn't save him by how good he was at installing from sin all his life.
When David committed those terrible sins, just because he didn't go to hell for them doesn't mean he got away without God's justice seeing consequences. Because of the degrees of how heinous murder and adultery are, David was given a boatload of misery at key times throughout his reign.

Psalm 32 describes some of that suffering that occurred 4 separate times if I remember right. It wasn't just that baby that died, but also had a lot of family drama. His concubines were violated in public to his shame; and that by one of his son's who tried to kill him and take his kingdom. He lost the son and almost the dynasty, had a daughter forced/ raped and suffered the worst of shame. Because he believed on the Lord early in life, he received the gift of everlasting life. Instead of going to hell, he was punished in this short life upon the earth prior to being with the Lord.

The following video teaches this Bible concept clearly in a short time. If you have questions, I'm happy to help.

Are we saved by how good we are?

 

[montana123]

Maybe some things have a number attached to them in the Bible, but the number has no power only the action that is done.

If the number 10 is assigned to something using the number 10 as a routine has no power.

Hey I have 10 pairs of pants as if it means anything.

It is the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ but using the number 3 as a routine in every day life means nothing.

I read through the Bible but I never thought of the importance of numbers only the actions that are done.

The numbers in the Bible is not the same as the numbers of the occult where it is more about actions that might have a number assigned to it but the number itself is not anything if used as a routine other than the action in the Bible.

Where the occult believes in the power of numbers, and uses those numbers as routine looking at the numbers as having power which they add, times, and group numbers together believing it will give them more power.

That is where they come up with the number 666 for they say 6 is the number of a person, or the soul of a person, so the number 666, a triple 6, will give the person more power through nature.

666 is a number in the occult that exalts people which the New Age Christ/antichrist will have that number believing he will have the power to evolve to be spiritual, and a god, and establish his kingdom.

They want to convince the world to embrace the number 666 for then they will have the power to transform to a world of peace, advance, and evolve.

I been reading the Bible since 1995 and have not thought about numbers, and never had any number bother me that I had to think hey does this mean something.

God may have used a number for significance of a certain thing but the number itself is not any purpose if a person routinely uses it like the occult that routinely uses numbers believing the number itself is the power.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

No and the reason for me was found in the book of Revelation. When I first read this book it scared me. Revelation 21:8 and why is he repeating himself in Revelation 22:15 😱
To me that shows I need the Lord Jesus more than I thought.

I am with you and believe like you.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Exactly!
That's how God responded to his son David.
God didn't save him by how good he was at installing from sin all his life.
When David committed those terrible sins, just because he didn't go to hell for them doesn't mean he got away without God's justice seeing consequences. Because of the degrees of how heinous murder and adultery are, David was given a boatload of misery at key times throughout his reign.

Psalm 32 describes some of that suffering that occurred 4 separate times if I remember right. It wasn't just that baby that died, but also had a lot of family drama. His concubines were violated in public to his shame; and that by one of his son's who tried to kill him and take his kingdom. He lost the son and almost the dynasty, had a daughter forced/ raped and suffered the worst of shame. Because he believed on the Lord early in life, he received the gift of everlasting life. Instead of going to hell, he was punished in this short life upon the earth prior to being with the Lord.

The following video teaches this Bible concept clearly in a short time. If you have questions, I'm happy to help.

Are we saved by how good we are?

well I like to think God was not punishing the child and was punishing David.

And that the child never actually died and was taken peacefully.

Did David abandon God after his punishment.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

No. I'm saying those who practice or have a lifestyle of ongoing sin and void of repentance are not saved.
David committed those sins, but repented and discontinued them. Sometimes Christians commit very heinous sins. But God will always come to the Christian and bring conviction for sin and grant a Godly sorrow unto repentance.

I wanted to understand your position because a turning from sins is obedience to the law as a works based condition covered in Galatians 1. We know that faith is the requirement and the Object of that faith is the narrow gate of salvation.

When I trusted Christ, He was the Object of my faith, not my self in turning from sins. If we mix the two as a condition of salvation, the results are death and damnation.
"The wages of sin is death." That applies to those trusting their will power or self goodness/ righteousness.

Once the condemned decide to quit trusting self to instead trust Christ, "the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
It's a gift He alone paid for. You know that as much as I do. I'm just saying that we separate the saved from the lost, those who trust Christ from those adding works.

Then the issue of what about the believer in Christ who sins after salvation comes up.
God deals with His spiritually born children, John 3, differently than those He never knew.
Matthew 7.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

well I like to think God was not punishing the child and was punishing David.

And that the child never actually died and was taken peacefully.

Did David abandon God after his punishment.

Yeah, I agree, God wasn't punishing the child, but the parents. The baby went to be with the Lord.

David did not abandon the Lord when He sinned. What he did was to act in his sin nature of the flesh . When someone trusts Christ as Savior, as opposed to self's behavior, they retain the flesh and old sin nature their entire life. Preachers wrongly make it an issue of David's attitude, emotions, ability to quit sinning, so forth and so on as to why he remains a child of God and destined for heaven. When Jesus saves, He doesn't require a probationary period for the rest of your natural life. There ARE consequences of sin, but they aren't hell.
David didn't hold onto the Lord:
The Lord held onto him.

I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
John 10

Albeit there were seasons when the other hand of God spanked David, just as He does to all His children; otherwise they were bastards. ( Never God's children.)

5And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Hebrews 12

 

[Cameron143]

I wanted to understand your position because a turning from sins is obedience to the law as a works based condition covered in Galatians 1. We know that faith is the requirement and the Object of that faith is the narrow gate of salvation.

When I trusted Christ, He was the Object of my faith, not my self in turning from sins. If we mix the two as a condition of salvation, the results are death and damnation.
"The wages of sin is death." That applies to those trusting their will power or self goodness/ righteousness.

Once the condemned decide to quit trusting self to instead trust Christ, "the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
It's a gift He alone paid for. You know that as much as I do. I'm just saying that we separate the saved from the lost, those who trust Christ from those adding works.

Then the issue of what about the believer in Christ who sins after salvation comes up.
God deals with His spiritually born children, John 3, differently than those He never knew.
Matthew 7.

Agree. We are saved by grace through faith. And on the whole, I believe looking upon behavior at any given point in time is a poor compass for judging others. We are all prone to wander. But over time, a clearer picture is given. No one will be free of sinning, but Christians eventuality understand sin to be sin and confess it rather than excuse it.
A far better indicator of salvation is the fruit of the Spirit. Since it is the work of the Spirit, it cannot be duplicated by man. The attendance of fruit in the believer is both a sign and seal of the presence of God.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Agree. We are saved by grace through faith. And on the whole, I believe looking upon behavior at any given point in time is a poor compass for judging others. We are all prone to wander. But over time, a clearer picture is given. No one will be free of sinning, but Christians eventuality understand sin to be sin and confess it rather than excuse it.
A far better indicator of salvation is the fruit of the Spirit. Since it is the work of the Spirit, it cannot be duplicated by man. The attendance of fruit in the believer is both a sign and seal of the presence of God.

True, that's why I'm reminded often of OT verses like Jeremiah 3:13 and Psalm 32, written to believers on how to get right (fellowship) and back on speaking terms (answered prayers,) with God.


3When I kept silence, my bones waxed old through my roaring all the day long. 4For day and night thy hand was heavy upon me: my moisture is turned into the drought of summer. Selah. 5I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.

NT:
"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
I John 1:9

 

[SunshineGirl]

well I like to think God was not punishing the child and was punishing David.

And that the child never actually died and was taken peacefully.

Did David abandon God after his punishment.

Yes, I get from reading this that God was punishing David and not the baby.
I don't believe that David abandoned God after this but I do believe he learnt a lesson.
They is a saying 'do the crime serve the time'
God is always watching.

 

[SunshineGirl]

I wanted to understand your position because a turning from sins is obedience to the law as a works based condition covered in Galatians 1. We know that faith is the requirement and the Object of that faith is the narrow gate of salvation.

When I trusted Christ, He was the Object of my faith, not my self in turning from sins. If we mix the two as a condition of salvation, the results are death and damnation.
"The wages of sin is death." That applies to those trusting their will power or self goodness/ righteousness.

Once the condemned decide to quit trusting self to instead trust Christ, "the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
It's a gift He alone paid for. You know that as much as I do. I'm just saying that we separate the saved from the lost, those who trust Christ from those adding works.

Then the issue of what about the believer in Christ who sins after salvation comes up.
God deals with His spiritually born children, John 3, differently than those He never knew.
Matthew 7.

I believe only through believing in Christ can a person get to Heaven.
But I believe when a person goes to Christ he helps them and sin doesn't look as good as it once did. It doesn't mean they never sin again but that they realise that they need Christ's help in and with everything 🥰

 

[Moses_Young]

I am reading about King David for the first time at the moment and when he committed Adultery with Bathsheba God wasn't happy. David prayed to God that his son would get well but no the child dies.
I guess God has to be fair. Like a parent if a child is nasty they lose out on something.

Do you think this relates to biblical numbers? I always thought it was significant that the child died at 7 days. Just short of the 8 days at which he would have been circumcised and considered part of the covenant people. Uncircumcision is/was a shameful thing, and for David to have it in his family, and have the baby die before it could be remedied would be sort of a permanent reminder of that shame, not to mention the grief. I wonder if the baby is a picture of Christ - innocent baby, cut off from his people, to pay for the sins of others.

 

[CS1]

If a biblical number I have been seeing, basically means the same thing as my previous prophecy, is God confirming my previous prophecy through the biblical number's meaning He is showing me? And does it mean that this number truly has this meaning in the bible?

You do not need to have knowledge of biblical numbers to answer this, knowledge of the Bible and how God operates is needed.

no.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Yes, I get from reading this that God was punishing David and not the baby.
I don't believe that David abandoned God after this but I do believe he learnt a lesson.
They is a saying 'do the crime serve the time'
God is always watching.

I was thinking the child God put to sleep. Was reborn in Solomon.

 

[SunshineGirl]

Do you think this relates to biblical numbers? I always thought it was significant that the child died at 7 days. Just short of the 8 days at which he would have been circumcised and considered part of the covenant people. Uncircumcision is/was a shameful thing, and for David to have it in his family, and have the baby die before it could be remedied would be sort of a permanent reminder of that shame, not to mention the grief. I wonder if the baby is a picture of Christ - innocent baby, cut off from his people, to pay for the sins of others.

That's very interesting and yes circumcision ment so much to the people of them days. I didn't see it like that. Good point there 😃

 

[SunshineGirl]

I was thinking the child God put to sleep. Was reborn in Solomon.

For me I don't believe that. I think everyone has their own special sole and no two people can be the same even if they look similar they are still their own special self 🥰

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

For me I don't believe that. I think everyone has their own special sole and no two people can be the same even if they look similar they are still their own special self 🥰

well that's a nice reassurance 😊

But then we all receive personal messages just like my reassurance

 

[SunshineGirl]

well that's a nice reassurance 😊

But then we all receive personal messages just like my reassurance

We definitely all receive personal messages from God. What he says/ writes on your heart is very special and personal to you.
I believe God wants a personal relationship with everyone 🥰