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The_Watchers_2017

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JacobMartinMertens said:
John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.
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i said:
The_Watchers_2017 said:
God is INVISIBLE
but when the INVISIBLE GOD wants to be with His Creation like human, the INVISIBLE GOD comes as human.
it's a function of the framework in God and Who He is.


Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God
 
Cameron143

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JacobMartinMertens said:
I am asking you how the text reads. You are asking me a question that I don't know the answer to without scripture. I just accept the scripture, not my own opinion. I don't have an opinion.
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I don't have it before me, but clearly Abraham saw not just 1 figure, but 3.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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Cameron143 said:
I don't have it before me, but clearly Abraham saw not just 1 figure, but 3.
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וַיֵּרָ֤א אֵלָיו֙ יְהֹוָ֔ה בְּאֵלֹנֵ֖י מַמְרֵ֑א וְה֛וּא יֹשֵׁ֥ב פֶּֽתַח־הָאֹ֖הֶל כְּחֹ֥ם הַיּֽוֹם׃
the LORD appeared to him by the terebinths of Mamre; he was sitting at the entrance of the tent as the day grew hot.


וַיִּשָּׂ֤א עֵינָיו֙ וַיַּ֔רְא וְהִנֵּה֙ שְׁלֹשָׁ֣ה אֲנָשִׁ֔ים נִצָּבִ֖ים עָלָ֑יו וַיַּ֗רְא וַיָּ֤רׇץ לִקְרָאתָם֙ מִפֶּ֣תַח הָאֹ֔הֶל וַיִּשְׁתַּ֖חוּ אָֽרְצָה׃
Looking up, he saw three figures standing near him. Perceiving this, he ran from the entrance of the tent to greet them and, bowing to the ground,
 
Cameron143

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The_Watchers_2017 said:
וַיֵּרָ֤א אֵלָיו֙ יְהֹוָ֔ה בְּאֵלֹנֵ֖י מַמְרֵ֑א וְה֛וּא יֹשֵׁ֥ב פֶּֽתַח־הָאֹ֖הֶל כְּחֹ֥ם הַיּֽוֹם׃
the LORD appeared to him by the terebinths of Mamre; he was sitting at the entrance of the tent as the day grew hot.


וַיִּשָּׂ֤א עֵינָיו֙ וַיַּ֔רְא וְהִנֵּה֙ שְׁלֹשָׁ֣ה אֲנָשִׁ֔ים נִצָּבִ֖ים עָלָ֑יו וַיַּ֗רְא וַיָּ֤רׇץ לִקְרָאתָם֙ מִפֶּ֣תַח הָאֹ֔הֶל וַיִּשְׁתַּ֖חוּ אָֽרְצָה׃
Looking up, he saw three figures standing near him. Perceiving this, he ran from the entrance of the tent to greet them and, bowing to the ground,
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Thanks.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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selahsays said:
I think we need to be teaching by now.
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he has been taught.
see what he believes.
God fathered Jesus
but even though God fathered Jesus, in his view, it does not make Him God, only human.

He ain't never going to believe Jesus is God with how everyone tossed Scripture at him.

you got to get him to the roots and dig em up and plant the good seed afterward.
 
JacobMartinMertens

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The_Watchers_2017 said:
i said:
The_Watchers_2017 said:
God is INVISIBLE
but when the INVISIBLE GOD wants to be with His Creation like human, the INVISIBLE GOD comes as human.
it's a function of the framework in God and Who He is.


Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God
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Yes. Very good. Thank you.

See John 17:5.
 
JacobMartinMertens

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The_Watchers_2017 said:
he has been taught.
see what he believes.
God fathered Jesus
but even though God fathered Jesus, in his view, it does not make Him God, only human.

He ain't never going to believe Jesus is God with how everyone tossed Scripture at him.

you got to get him to the roots and dig em up and plant the good seed afterward.
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I am not sure what you are saying. I believe that Jesus is human and the Son of God.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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JacobMartinMertens said:
Yes. Very good. Thank you.

See John 17:5.
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before you can understand Verse 5, you need to know Verse 4:

4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

it's a partnership.
Jesus, Glorified the Father on Earth, now it is the Father's turn to Glorify Jesus back to His Original Place when He returns back to Heaven.

you really twisted this Verse 5 way out of context.
 
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