How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

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Oh, I see! 10's of millions of folks worldwide are wrong because David sees no possibility of a pre-trib rapture!

Well, that's cleared up!

He is wrong along with millions of others.
It reminds me of the current radical dems......1 of three are totally in left field, non believers, weird, socialists bordering on communistic, selfish and control freaks...... just like the other two.
 
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I believe that AC may be revealed at mid Trib.
Revealed before anything else.
The church sees WHO He is BEFORE anyone else.
Then the rapture
.....THEN THE AC SEATED IN POWER
...ARRIVING IN POWER...THE WHITE HORSEMAN
.....WITH A BOW ( WAR,KILLING, TAKING NATIONS)
....A CROWN (RULING NATIONS)
....A WHITE HORSE (TYPE OF CHRIST....WITH THE WORLD DECIEVED)...
.....DEMANDING HIS MARK ON THE EARTHS POPULATION
......KILLING BILLIONS
 
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Amen.

And verse 15 ("Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.") is being CONTRASTED with what verse 2 had just said, which was basically, don't be let anyone try to convince you "that the day of the Lord IS PRESENT / IS HERE" (i.e. the time period of judgments unfolding upon the earth).

It wasn't "present" (tho their present and ongoing experiences [1:4] made this a PERFECTLY REASONABLE thing for them to be convinced of as being "true" [tho being untrue]), and Paul elaborates on that point in this context.

[again, he repeats this SEQUENCE 3x in this passage]
AMEN - for that Day will not come until the apostacy/rebellion occur first and the man of sin be revealed.

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But their departure made it clear that none of them belonged to us.
1 John 2:18-19
 
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pre-trib rapture never came out of the mouth of God - not one place in Scripture.

Pre-wrath rapture = ABSOLUTELY = and to await His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead—Jesus our deliverer from the coming wrath. 1 Thess 1:10

Just as the Serpent added to God's words in the Garden, so does 'pre-trib rapture' add to the Scriptures.

It goes directly against the LORD, against the Prophets, against the Apostles and against the Holy Spirit.

Last time i checked, and i check everyday, it is very BAD to go against the word's of God.

You are just wrong.
There is no place in scriptures that support that conclusion, except a personal philosophy point that your ego won't allow you to abandon.
All the while you will not respond to challenges with scriptures which clearly represent a pre-trib. occurrence.
Sad for proper biblical study.
 

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pre-trib rapture never came out of the mouth of God - not one place in Scripture.

Pre-wrath rapture = ABSOLUTELY = and to await His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead—Jesus our deliverer from the coming wrath. 1 Thess 1:10

Just as the Serpent added to God's words in the Garden, so does 'pre-trib rapture' add to the Scriptures.

It goes directly against the LORD, against the Prophets, against the Apostles and against the Holy Spirit.

Last time i checked, and i check everyday, it is very BAD to go against the word's of God.
OK, David, I'll repent now that I see it your way. I have no choice now that I know there is no possibility.
 

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Oh, I see! 10's of millions of folks worldwide are wrong because David sees no possibility of a pre-trib rapture!

Well, that's cleared up!
Your statement only proves that, to use your own words, “10's of millions of folks worldwide” will be deceived!

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

- Revelation 12:7-9 (KJV)
 
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LOL
Then it reads;
"The second coming on horses happens when the AC is beginning to be revealed,....."


So you have the second coming on horses with no ac in power.


Why do you guys not test fit theories??????
 

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He is wrong along with millions of others.
It reminds me of the current radical dems......1 of three are totally in left field, non believers, weird, socialists bordering on communistic, selfish and control freaks...... just like the other two.
It's their way or the highway! No possibility of them being wrong! They got it straight from Jesus.
 

Charlie24

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Your statement only proves that, to use your own words, “10's of millions of folks worldwide” will be deceived!

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

- Revelation 12:7-9 (KJV)
Oh I'm sure that's the case! How could you guys possibly be wrong?
 
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OK, David, I'll repent now that I see it your way. I have no choice now that I know there is no possibility.

Scripture speaks for Itself = believe what God has said and reject what HE did not say.

It is that Simple - His Word written for His Children - become like a little child and you will SEE.

NOAH DANIEL JOB
 
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OK, David, I'll repent now that I see it your way. I have no choice now that I know there is no possibility.
Ignore is bliss

He will not honestly engage "concept vs concept"

Instead he sees all pretribbers in satans lap getting all info from satan himself.
 
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Ignore is bliss

He will not honestly engage "concept vs concept"

Instead he sees all pretribbers in satans lap getting all info from satan himself.
lol - this was a good one - and Good Morning Brother - Peace
 

Charlie24

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Scripture speaks for Itself = believe what God has said and reject what HE did not say.

It is that Simple - His Word written for His Children - become like a little child and you will SEE.

NOAH DANIEL JOB
Believe what God has said, or what David has said?
 
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Believe what God has said, or what David has said?
Well i always check what i say, you say and others say against Scripture to make sure i am not adding or twisting.
PEACE

AND - i leave my heart & mind open for correction - Peace
 

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LOL
Then it reads;
"The second coming on horses happens when the AC is beginning to be revealed,....."


So you have the second coming on horses with no ac in power.


Why do you guys not test fit theories??????
It would be awesome if you would list the scripture(s) you’re referring to. Thanks.
 

Charlie24

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Well i always check what i say, you say and others say against Scripture to make sure i am not adding or twisting.
PEACE

AND - i leave my heart & mind open for correction - Peace
OK, I'll check with you from now on before I post anything, so I will be sure to be right!
 
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It would be awesome if you would list the scripture(s) you’re referring to. Thanks.
2 thes 2
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

All i did was change it to a postribber model

We have;
"The second coming on horses happens when the AC is beginning to be revealed,....."
 
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OK, I'll check with you from now on before I post anything, so I will be sure to be right!
WHY? Just check your heart in at the DOOR before you Enter Scripture.

Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.

Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and dine with him, and he with Me.

Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. = PEACE & UNDERSTANDING & PROTECTION

Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar. = error , misconceptions , religion