How does the Holy Spirit work in the life of a Christian?

[piroma]

Is the work of the Holy Spirit automatic?

yes automatic when you filled in with the Holy Spirit -then being in the spirit of gift the gift working automatic

but to reach this is not automatic - this is by struggling in faith- removing any doubt and putting faith into work by receiving gifts and staying in it

why it is written - be filled with the Holy spirit - this sounds like - be spiritually automatic

otherwise we are in flesh automatic most of time

 

[piroma]

yes automatic

one can control his spiritual gift but not the activity of the Holy spirit himself

so to be filled with the Holy spirit is more important than the gift itself - but the HS works through gifts

one thing when it is at work gift given and the other thing is when the HS is in the gift

difference is that the gift working according to the faith given and the HS working to enlarge the spiritual volume of Faith within the gift that is to enlarged volume of activities of the gift

control of gift limited - only to start and stop

 

[Chuckyz2]

You know when, and I don't know if automatic is a way to describe it as I would never use that word, but we know when one truly has the Spirit by his desire to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Some rarely done in this forum. It cracks me up every time I come here and see for the most part, everyone has so many opinions yet rarely does anyone quote the words the Lord.
Because of that fact most Christians miss the main reason of it all. They arrogantly think they are special, even though they never preach the Gospel. That they earned some right to paradise by believing whereas most of mankind suffer in pain forever and ever.
I did not come to judge the world but to save the save the world.
If a man hears my words and rejects them, I do NOT judge him.
If you keep my commands you will never taste death.
If you sin, the devil is your master.

That is why every one dies. For the wager of sin is death

But don't worry I have overcome death.

Jesus loves every human being and when HE returns salvation for mankind is automatic.

 

[justpassinthrough]

That is why every one dies. For the wager of sin is death

Not everyone dies.


The “death” Paul is referring to in that scripture is eternal death, not natural death.


For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:20-23


For the end of those things is death.


For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.




JLB

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

yes automatic when you filled in with the Holy Spirit -then being in the spirit of gift the gift working automatic

but to reach this is not automatic - this is by struggling in faith- removing any doubt and putting faith into work by receiving gifts and staying in it

why it is written - be filled with the Holy spirit - this sounds like - be spiritually automatic

otherwise we are in flesh automatic most of time

All spirit filled Believers with the evidence of speaking in tongues continue to sin. The Law of the Spirit (how the Holy Spirit works) of Life in Christ Jesus (Rom. 8:2) works by Faith placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and the Cross, i.e., "The Finished Work," i.e., "The Blood of Jesus."

 

[piroma]

All spirit filled Believers with the evidence of speaking in tongues continue to sin. The Law of the Spirit (how the Holy Spirit works) of Life in Christ Jesus (Rom. 8:2) works by Faith placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and the Cross, i.e., "The Finished Work," i.e., "The Blood of Jesus."

if i speak in tongues but do not have the love - i am nothing
not gift
spiritual gifts one receives by faith not by deeds

the gifts should be -otherwise nothing about entering into Christ possible - even understanding what is it absent

 

[Chuckyz2]

Not everyone dies.


The “death” Paul is referring to in that scripture is eternal death, not natural death.


For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:20-23


For the end of those things is death.


For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.




JLB

But no one is set free from sin.
Only one was/is sinless.
Only One thus far was begotten.
You are wrong by assuming that it is
ok to sin when you believe. Your theology
makes no sense and is contradicting scripture.
Because everyone sins, including you so the
end of those things is death.
Yet the gift of God, which comes after He returns
is saving the World.
"I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world."
And He will do what He said. "Save the world"
Not just those that claim to believe yet still sin.

 

[justpassinthrough]

But no one is set free from sin.
Only one was/is sinless.
Only One thus far was begotten.
You are wrong by assuming that it is
ok to sin when you believe. Your theology
makes no sense and is contradicting scripture.
Because everyone sins, including you so the
end of those things is death.
Yet the gift of God, which comes after He returns
is saving the World.
"I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world."
And He will do what He said. "Save the world"
Not just those that claim to believe yet still sin.

Please address the scriptures I quoted and refrain from your opinion.



JPT

 

[Chuckyz2]

Please address the scriptures I quoted and refrain from your opinion.



JPT

I have. And the fact the
no one is set free from sin changes
what your interpretations claim.
Only one was/is sinless.
Only One thus far was begotten.
You are wrong by assuming that it is
ok to sin when you believe. Your theology
makes no sense and is contradicting scripture.
Because everyone sins, including you so the
end of those things is death. So the death
mentioned in the first death is what it is
obviously referring too. That is addressing
the scripture you misinterpreted. Scripture that
is dependent on context. And the context that confirms
what I am seeing in, you obviously ignore.
"I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world."
And He will do what He said. "Save the world"
Not just those that claim to believe yet still sin.
Here are a few more scriptures that confirm you
are badly mistaken. I have addressed your verses
and the following verses address your verses. You
desperately need to address the following verses.
You can excepted or reject them.

1 John 4:14
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of
the world.

1 John 2:2
And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours
only but also for the whole world.

John 12:47
And if any man hear my words, and believe not,
I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

John 17:2
As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Heb 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour;that he
by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

1 Tim 4:9-11
9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
10 For therefore we both labour and suffer
reproach,because we trust in the living God,
who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that
believe.
11 These things command and teach!!!!!

There are many more but I will close with this one.
You can except it or reject it. It doesn't matter.
What you except or reject does not save you.
It just shows if the Spirit is with you or not.
For the main Gospel of Jesus is that He came
to all mankind. If you can't see that obvious
fact by the numerous plainly stated verses that
testify of it, it is no wonder you have many mistakes
in your understandings of scripture that require
context to understand. Just look at it.

John 12:47
47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not,
I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world,
but to save the world.

There is only one definition there.
Nothing can change that simple statements' meaning.
No context or other scripture can change what that and
the other verses I posted mean. Your verses according
to you interpretation contradict these. My interpretation
has no contradictions. Not even one.

God bless.

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[justpassinthrough]

And the fact the
no one is set free from sin changes
what your interpretations claim.

Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
They answered Him, “We are Abraham’s descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can You say, ‘You will be made free’?”
Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
John 8:31-35

 

[justpassinthrough]

I have. And the fact the
no one is set free from sin changes
what your interpretations claim.
Only one was/is sinless.
Only One thus far was begotten.
You are wrong by assuming that it is
ok to sin when you believe. Your theology
makes no sense and is contradicting scripture.
Because everyone sins, including you so the
end of those things is death. So the death
mentioned in the first death is what it is
obviously referring too. That is addressing
the scripture you misinterpreted. Scripture that
is dependent on context. And the context that confirms
what I am seeing in, you obviously ignore.
"I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world."
And He will do what He said. "Save the world"
Not just those that claim to believe yet still sin.
Here are a few more scriptures that confirm you
are badly mistaken. I have addressed your verses
and the following verses address your verses. You
desperately need to address the following verses.
You can excepted or reject them.

1 John 4:14
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of
the world.

1 John 2:2
And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours
only but also for the whole world.

John 12:47
And if any man hear my words, and believe not,
I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

John 17:2
As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Heb 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour;that he
by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

1 Tim 4:9-11
9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
10 For therefore we both labour and suffer
reproach,because we trust in the living God,
who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that
believe.
11 These things command and teach!!!!!

There are many more but I will close with this one.
You can except it or reject it. It doesn't matter.
What you except or reject does not save you.
It just shows if the Spirit is with you or not.
For the main Gospel of Jesus is that He came
to all mankind. If you can't see that obvious
fact by the numerous plainly stated verses that
testify of it, it is no wonder you have many mistakes
in your understandings of scripture that require
context to understand. Just look at it.

John 12:47
47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not,
I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world,
but to save the world.

There is only one definition there.
Nothing can change that simple statements' meaning.
No context or other scripture can change what that and
the other verses I posted mean. Your verses according
to you interpretation contradict these. My interpretation
has no contradictions. Not even one.

God bless.

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Here is what I said -


Not everyone dies.

(Do you understand some will be Raptured, because they do not die?)


The “death” Paul is referring to in that scripture is eternal death, not natural death.


For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:20-23


For the end of those things is death.


For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.




JPT

 

[eternally-gratefull]

But no one is set free from sin.
Only one was/is sinless.
Only One thus far was begotten.
You are wrong by assuming that it is
ok to sin when you believe. Your theology
makes no sense and is contradicting scripture.
Because everyone sins, including you so the
end of those things is death.
Yet the gift of God, which comes after He returns
is saving the World.
"I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world."
And He will do what He said. "Save the world"
Not just those that claim to believe yet still sin.

No one is set free from sin? Can you expand further please?

The penalty of sin is death Spiritual

Everyone dies physically (except those at the end of this age who will not taste death)

So if everyone still sins. Why is not everyone suffer spiritual death at the end.

I am wondering though, who says it is ok to sin?