How does Satan keep getting unbound?
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It has to do with Spiritual Warfare, and The Power of the Tongue, and false shepherds in various Churches.
Given a group of men are growing in faith together, they learn to think more alike. They learn to see things more as God sees them. Given there was a major rift in the Church on politics and major theological issues, that would be a Spiritual Crisis.
In the understanding of "The Power of the Tongue," a man may be learning to perceive through God's Holy Spirit. He is aligning himself with God, and the Prophets, and working to not say anything false. He may learn to "Go with his Gut." He is perceiving what to say through God's Holy Spirit.
- We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. (2 Corinthians 10:5)
- then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and of one mind. (Philippians 2:2)
Given a group of men are growing in faith together, they learn to think more alike. They learn to see things more as God sees them. Given there was a major rift in the Church on politics and major theological issues, that would be a Spiritual Crisis.
In the understanding of "The Power of the Tongue," a man may be learning to perceive through God's Holy Spirit. He is aligning himself with God, and the Prophets, and working to not say anything false. He may learn to "Go with his Gut." He is perceiving what to say through God's Holy Spirit.
You mean like being careful never to say things like: "I would just die right now for some rest?" Better not say that, it'll give Satan the authority to kill us.
The root of the problem, getting back to the OP, may be in Academic Theology. A major trend in academia has been Post Modernism, characterized by moral relativism, and influenced by Nietzsche. Many theologians may have been "Progressive." Someone like Teddy Roosevelt was Progressive. Progressivism was shanghaied by Satan. What is progress? Progress is building The Kingdom of God, and bringing men to God. Progress to a Post Modern Person may be legal abortion, gay marriage, you being vaccinated and wearing your mask, following their directions, and tolerance for non-Christian belief systems. That has been the type of trend in academia. Was an Academic Theologian working to please man, and get along with such people, or were they working to please God? Working to please God, they may be hated. They hated Jesus first.
This may be easy to see on Reddit. /R/AcademicBiblical has a discord chatroom. Go check it out. Who is moderating it? I went there and was greeted by a someone claiming to be a Witch. That was the general tone of said discord. Christianity is exclusive. Someone is in The Dark, or in The Light of The Lord. (Ephesians 5:8) Some people may be new Christian, and learning. That takes humility and meekness. In egotism, many may have been giving Satan authority by tolerating, and giving authority to occultists and weirdos around academia.
This post reminds me of the old saying: "If you can dazzle with brilliance. . . . " Well, maybe you've heard it, maybe not.
If person X binds Satan, then person Y comes along and by a slip of the tongue looses him again, what's the point of binding him in the first place? You have people running around binding him and others coming along right behind them enabling him again.
And I thought God was the One who has authority over Satan.
If person X binds Satan, then person Y comes along and by a slip of the tongue looses him again, what's the point of binding him in the first place? You have people running around binding him and others coming along right behind them enabling him again.
And I thought God was the One who has authority over Satan.
This post reminds me of the old saying: "If you can dazzle with brilliance. . . . " Well, maybe you've heard it, maybe not.
If person X binds Satan, then person Y comes along and by a slip of the tongue looses him again, what's the point of binding him in the first place? You have people running around binding him and others coming along right behind them enabling him again.
And I thought God was the One who has authority over Satan.
If person X binds Satan, then person Y comes along and by a slip of the tongue looses him again, what's the point of binding him in the first place? You have people running around binding him and others coming along right behind them enabling him again.
And I thought God was the One who has authority over Satan.
Given Catholics, Orthodox, and certain Protestants, authority may have been passed down through Apostolic Secession. Some Protestants claim that Constantine corrupted the Church, and that their Church is closer to the Early Church. Some Protestants have Prophets and Apostles. The Bible talks about authority that every believing Christian has. Who has Authority?
Authority works in very particular ways. Working to understand authority and the Bible would be leaning on "God's Law."
Satan and some demons, they attacked people in positions of authority. Satan liked to steal anointings.
Satan received authority from God in the Book of Job. How? He may have known some things about God, and God's Law. Understanding authority gets into Spiritual Warfare. A lot of Christians haven't known much about Spiritual Warfare. To understand Spiritual Warfare, someone is coming into the reality of God. God is scary. The Truth hurts. Knowledge brings sorrow. Ignorance is bliss?
I'm not ignoring the verb. The saints are 1st made alive spiritually and rule as emmisaries of the King for "a thousand years ((or, the day in which the new man was created in Christ). God has always reigned along with believers this way.
Dashing unbelievers in pieces is the end of them,
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that allthese things shall be dissolved,what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for andhasting unto the coming of the dayof God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we,according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 2Pet.3:10-13
How can you read this and think unbelievers will survive it?
Dashing unbelievers in pieces is the end of them,
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that allthese things shall be dissolved,what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for andhasting unto the coming of the dayof God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we,according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 2Pet.3:10-13
How can you read this and think unbelievers will survive it?
The beheaded saints were "made alive spiritually" while they were alive. After being killed, they are made alive physically called a resurrection. They are part of the first of two very large group resurrections.
Which is ignoring the future verb tense that mortals will be ruled over in the future past killing at Armageddon.
No unbelievers will be alive at the timeframe of those verses. They will have suffered the second death in the lake of fire. Only after that will the New Heaven and new Earth take place.
Which is ignoring the future verb tense that mortals will be ruled over in the future past killing at Armageddon.
No unbelievers will be alive at the timeframe of those verses. They will have suffered the second death in the lake of fire. Only after that will the New Heaven and new Earth take place.
They were beheaded because they were made alive in Christ,
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. Jn.5:25
It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again Lk.15:32
yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead Rom.6:13
Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. Eph.5:14
This is the 1st resurrection.
After our Lord returns, the redeemed are ruled by the redeemed,
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, Thatye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of manshall sit in the throne of his glory,ye also shall sit upon twelvethrones, judging the twelve tribesof Israel. Mt.19:28
And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
The time frame of those verses is the the return of our King,
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. Lk.19:27
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. Jn.5:25
It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again Lk.15:32
yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead Rom.6:13
Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. Eph.5:14
This is the 1st resurrection.
After our Lord returns, the redeemed are ruled by the redeemed,
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, Thatye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of manshall sit in the throne of his glory,ye also shall sit upon twelvethrones, judging the twelve tribesof Israel. Mt.19:28
And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
The time frame of those verses is the the return of our King,
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. Lk.19:27
No. They at some point in their lives became Christians and were born again, then the Great Tribulation began and they rejected the antichrist and his mark and were beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God. Then at the second coming they were resurrected. That is the first resurrection of two groups of the dead. The second resurrection takes place at the Great White Throne Judgement (GWTJ).
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
This happens to them because of being made alive in Christ, being made one with him,
But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. Jn.15:21
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 2Tim.3:12
exhorting them to continue in the faith, andthat we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. Act.14:22
It's a a process that has been repeated throughout history.
There are not two bodily resurrections separated by 1000 years. The resurrection of everyones body, both saved and unsaved occurs at Jesus' return,
the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. Jn.5:28-29
I showed the 1st resurrection is being born again. Raised to life by his Spirit. You didn't comment on it.
The reign of thesaints with Christ isn't temporary. He goes on to say the 2nd death has no power over those of the 1st resurection. The 2nd death doesn't harm the born again.
Have you noticed I'm dealing directly with the scriptures you've citing, but you're ignoring the scriptures I'm citing?
But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. Jn.15:21
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 2Tim.3:12
exhorting them to continue in the faith, andthat we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. Act.14:22
It's a a process that has been repeated throughout history.
There are not two bodily resurrections separated by 1000 years. The resurrection of everyones body, both saved and unsaved occurs at Jesus' return,
the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. Jn.5:28-29
I showed the 1st resurrection is being born again. Raised to life by his Spirit. You didn't comment on it.
The reign of thesaints with Christ isn't temporary. He goes on to say the 2nd death has no power over those of the 1st resurection. The 2nd death doesn't harm the born again.
Have you noticed I'm dealing directly with the scriptures you've citing, but you're ignoring the scriptures I'm citing?
The two resurrections aren't separated by one thousand human years. If they were, this would make no sense,
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Mt.25-31-33
If people could get saved after our Lord returns, he wouldn't have said,
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached inall the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Mt.24:14
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Mt.25-31-33
If people could get saved after our Lord returns, he wouldn't have said,
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached inall the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Mt.24:14
"The rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished" proves there are two.
That doesn't even mention any resurrections. Why even think that has anything to do with the two resurrections in Revelation 20?
You aren't paying attention very well. I didn't say anyone was getting saved after the Lord returns. I said thee saved dead are resurrected before the thousand years and the rest of the dead who are the unsaved are resurrected after the thousand years. That's what Revelation 20 tells us.
That doesn't even mention any resurrections. Why even think that has anything to do with the two resurrections in Revelation 20?
You aren't paying attention very well. I didn't say anyone was getting saved after the Lord returns. I said thee saved dead are resurrected before the thousand years and the rest of the dead who are the unsaved are resurrected after the thousand years. That's what Revelation 20 tells us.
Because at that time, our King separates believers from unbelievers completely,
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:....
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Mt.25:34,41
The unsaved aren't thrown into the LOF twice separated by 1000 years. The 2nd resurrection is where believers bodies are transformed and unbelievers are still in corruption.
Then you believe everyone listening to our Lord for 1000 years who weren't transformed at his return are damned anyway? For 1000 years, nobody comes to faith in God? It's senseless.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:....
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Mt.25:34,41
The unsaved aren't thrown into the LOF twice separated by 1000 years. The 2nd resurrection is where believers bodies are transformed and unbelievers are still in corruption.
Then you believe everyone listening to our Lord for 1000 years who weren't transformed at his return are damned anyway? For 1000 years, nobody comes to faith in God? It's senseless.
Nope, they are thrown into it once, at the GWTJ which is LONG after the second coming. The saved are resurrected and judged before the thousand years and the unsaved are resurrected and judged after it. That's why it says "the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished." showing a second group of the dead that resurrect after the thousand years.
"the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished." proves that wrong.
I never said no one is saved during the thousand years. The text doesn't say anything about such details. It doesn't say people are saved, doesn't say they aren't and doesn't mention the gospel either. We won't know what happens during that time until it happens except that the nations will be ruled by Christ and his saints with a rod of iron and satan will not be able to deceive them for the entire thousand years.
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"the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished." proves that wrong.
I never said no one is saved during the thousand years. The text doesn't say anything about such details. It doesn't say people are saved, doesn't say they aren't and doesn't mention the gospel either. We won't know what happens during that time until it happens except that the nations will be ruled by Christ and his saints with a rod of iron and satan will not be able to deceive them for the entire thousand years.
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When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him.....
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Mt.25:31,41
When the saved are transformed, death is destroyed at the same time,
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.....So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Cor.15:28,54
Since death is the last enemy, there are no more enemies after that. This is why the presence of Christ is the LOF.
What it proves is there will be one bodily resurrection of believers and unbelievers which is simultaneous,
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, Mt.13:49
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Mt.24:14
When our comes with the holy angles, that's the end of all evil.
The problem is, you're taking one passage from a highly symbolic book and interpreting it in a way that disagrees with the clear teachings of Christ and the Apostles.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: Mt.25:31,41
When the saved are transformed, death is destroyed at the same time,
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.....So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Cor.15:28,54
Since death is the last enemy, there are no more enemies after that. This is why the presence of Christ is the LOF.
What it proves is there will be one bodily resurrection of believers and unbelievers which is simultaneous,
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, Mt.13:49
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Mt.24:14
When our comes with the holy angles, that's the end of all evil.
The problem is, you're taking one passage from a highly symbolic book and interpreting it in a way that disagrees with the clear teachings of Christ and the Apostles.
So you are fine with smashing two verses together which are actually ten verses apart? Obviously the events of those verses happen at different times. We can easily see that in Revelation 19-20 where second coming is a thousand years before people being cast into the lake of fire.
Wrong. There's a lot of death after the first resurrection of the saved. A massive amount of people die from fire outside of Jerusalem and then there is the tiny little thing called the second death that an even larger amount of people.
Wrong. There's a lot of death after the first resurrection of the saved. A massive amount of people die from fire outside of Jerusalem and then there is the tiny little thing called the second death that an even larger amount of people.
The division occurs immediately,
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Mt.25:33
Ar his return, he tells the goats to depart from him into the fire reserved for satan and his angels (vs 41).
Then explain this,
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed in that day. 2Thes.1:7-10
A massive amount of people die from fire because, "the Lord Jesus shall be revealed fromheaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire".
the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavenss hall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pet.3:10
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Mt.25:33
Ar his return, he tells the goats to depart from him into the fire reserved for satan and his angels (vs 41).
Then explain this,
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed in that day. 2Thes.1:7-10
A massive amount of people die from fire because, "the Lord Jesus shall be revealed fromheaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire".
the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavenss hall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pet.3:10