How Do You Reconcile These Two?

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crossnote

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My question to you, is how do you reconcile these two?...

1 John 2:15 (KJV) love not the "World", neither the things that are in the "world". If any man love the "world", the love of the Father is not in him.

John 3:16 (KJV) God so loved the "world"

My explanation is; These two scriptures are referencing two different "worlds". In 1 John 2:15, Jesus has reference to those of mankind that love the things of the "world". In John 3:16, Jesus has reference to the "world" of believers.
I never mentioned Jn 3:16 which refers to people, I mentioned...
1 Timothy 6:17 (KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

1 John 2:15 (KJV) Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
...which both speak of 'things'
 

posthuman

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as soon as they had come to land, they saw a fire of coals there, and fish laid on it, and bread.
(John 21:9)

Jesus said to them, “Come eat breakfast.
(John 21:12)
Jesus then came and took the bread and gave it to them, and likewise the fish.
This now the third time Jesus showed Himself to His disciples after He was raised from the dead.
(John 21:13-14)
i'l' venture that was an extraordinarily delicious bread & fish. and it was neither hedonism nor love of the world to savor them - but God's will that they richly enjoy it.
suppose we can receive something like a fine meal with thanksgiving, without 'loving the things of this world'? the gift of God. as Solomon wrote to eat honey, "because it's good" & he also wrote eat what is sufficient - do not eat too much, or you will vomit it out. there's a concept of temperance there, and i don't think it's misapplied to put it to the regard we have for those things which enjoy. i see the sunrise most mornings, and i thank God for it, amazed at the beauty. but i must also be able to thank God if i am struck blind, and never see the sky again. as much as i enjoy the artistry in what i see, if i curse God because it's withheld, i have loved it more than Him. to behold it is His gift to me - not to be coveted, but to be rejoiced in nonetheless
 

ForestGreenCook

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I never mentioned Jn 3:16 which refers to people, I mentioned...
1 Timothy 6:17 (KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

1 John 2:15 (KJV) Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
...which both speak of 'things'
You want me to answer your question, but you refuse to answer mine?
 

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You want me to answer your question, but you refuse to answer mine?
Sorry, what was your question? I thought I pointed out that one was referring to people (Jn 3:16), the other to things (1Jn 2:15).