Hidden treasure and pearl: what matters?
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Mat 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
Mat 13:45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:
Mat 13:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.
Right, it is not talking about actual physical treasure, or pearls, but it is a parable of how people in the physical world will try to attain unto those things, which a person will give all, and pay a great price if it means having a greater treasure to acquire, and receive a greater profit, such as knowing that there is a great treasure hidden upon land, and then paying a price of all they have that is not as much of value to acquire the greater treasure in the field, or coming across one pearl far greater than the rest, and selling all they have to obtain it.
Which in the spiritual realm the kingdom of God is like that for the saints will give all, and pay the price to give up their sinful lifestyle, to obtain the treasure of heaven, eternal life, that is far greater in value that their physical life.
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
That is true the treasure, and the pearl is the word of God that can lead unto salvation, the Gospel of Christ.
Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
And those that give their all, and are really determined, not playing around, shall enter heaven, for they are violent in getting in to heaven, beating at the door until their hands are bloody.
They give all, and pay the price to be able to have that treasure, and pearls that pertain to the kingdom of heaven spiritual.
But of course the cost of the treasure, and the pearls in the parable would be of high value, the highest value ever, to show how people in the physical realm will give all they have to obtain a treasure that is far greater, to show in the spiritual that a saint will pay the price, and give all to obtain heaven.
So it does matter the cost of the treasure, and pearls, in the parable, for would a person give all they have one million dollars to obtain a piece of land 2 feet by 2 feet with a penny buried in it that is only worth 2 cents to a collector.
Or would they give all they have one million dollars to obtain a pearl that is only worth 10 dollars.
So it does matter the cost of the treasure, and pearls, in the parables, although it is not actually speaking of actual physical treasure, but in the parable they must be of high value for our eternal life is of high value, and we give all for that.
Mat 13:45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:
Mat 13:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.
Right, it is not talking about actual physical treasure, or pearls, but it is a parable of how people in the physical world will try to attain unto those things, which a person will give all, and pay a great price if it means having a greater treasure to acquire, and receive a greater profit, such as knowing that there is a great treasure hidden upon land, and then paying a price of all they have that is not as much of value to acquire the greater treasure in the field, or coming across one pearl far greater than the rest, and selling all they have to obtain it.
Which in the spiritual realm the kingdom of God is like that for the saints will give all, and pay the price to give up their sinful lifestyle, to obtain the treasure of heaven, eternal life, that is far greater in value that their physical life.
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
That is true the treasure, and the pearl is the word of God that can lead unto salvation, the Gospel of Christ.
Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
And those that give their all, and are really determined, not playing around, shall enter heaven, for they are violent in getting in to heaven, beating at the door until their hands are bloody.
They give all, and pay the price to be able to have that treasure, and pearls that pertain to the kingdom of heaven spiritual.
But of course the cost of the treasure, and the pearls in the parable would be of high value, the highest value ever, to show how people in the physical realm will give all they have to obtain a treasure that is far greater, to show in the spiritual that a saint will pay the price, and give all to obtain heaven.
So it does matter the cost of the treasure, and pearls, in the parable, for would a person give all they have one million dollars to obtain a piece of land 2 feet by 2 feet with a penny buried in it that is only worth 2 cents to a collector.
Or would they give all they have one million dollars to obtain a pearl that is only worth 10 dollars.
So it does matter the cost of the treasure, and pearls, in the parables, although it is not actually speaking of actual physical treasure, but in the parable they must be of high value for our eternal life is of high value, and we give all for that.
I thanks for the reply.
I would agree. There is no "hidden meaning" in an erroneous interpretation. The spiritual meaning its hidden in the parables
Yes to the crowd everyone, believers and unbelievers. When he got the disciple alone he had that opportunity to teach by his own actions and words directed by the father, aiding them how to hear the signified language of God as the personal signature.
He kept driving into their fleshly minds. . . without parable.... I speak not. Not once did he say if the literal seems to make human sense don't look for another interpretation no digging stay on the surface. Every time the meaning was hid they would revert back to natural man and play "who is the greatest" WWW Alpha Dog and Jesus standing right in the mist of the fire . They learned how to hear the unseen just as any other person .
All parables are scripture (As it is written) but not all scripture is a parable. Except Revelation one parable. A signified place were no more new types and shadows are used. The bible form the beginning offers all metaphors needed to give the spiritual understanding.
Moral laws are not parables. Commands like ..Study to show oneself approved unto God is not a parable . All of the Proverbs are form a parable . They are parables of wisdom having no historical value .
Song of Songs a parable.
I would think you could give your understanding then we can get on the same page rather than a unknown tongue.
Something I have been looking at for a while. 40 years. Can you explain what you think the scripture means by "mixing faith" ? It seems to divide those who hear the gospel. . . having faith, the eternal understanding from those who have no ears to hear the unseen voice. no faith.
I would agree. There is no "hidden meaning" in an erroneous interpretation. The spiritual meaning its hidden in the parables
Yes to the crowd everyone, believers and unbelievers. When he got the disciple alone he had that opportunity to teach by his own actions and words directed by the father, aiding them how to hear the signified language of God as the personal signature.
He kept driving into their fleshly minds. . . without parable.... I speak not. Not once did he say if the literal seems to make human sense don't look for another interpretation no digging stay on the surface. Every time the meaning was hid they would revert back to natural man and play "who is the greatest" WWW Alpha Dog and Jesus standing right in the mist of the fire . They learned how to hear the unseen just as any other person .
All parables are scripture (As it is written) but not all scripture is a parable. Except Revelation one parable. A signified place were no more new types and shadows are used. The bible form the beginning offers all metaphors needed to give the spiritual understanding.
Moral laws are not parables. Commands like ..Study to show oneself approved unto God is not a parable . All of the Proverbs are form a parable . They are parables of wisdom having no historical value .
Song of Songs a parable.
I would think you could give your understanding then we can get on the same page rather than a unknown tongue.
Something I have been looking at for a while. 40 years. Can you explain what you think the scripture means by "mixing faith" ? It seems to divide those who hear the gospel. . . having faith, the eternal understanding from those who have no ears to hear the unseen voice. no faith.
Yes, or it's in the plain text.
That's adding to Scripture again. Scripture actually just says, "But when He was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything." (Mark 4:34).
Scripture doesn't support that idea.
Not all parables are Scripture. Parables are also found in other literature. Revelation is not all a parable; there are two chapters of letters. The clues to interpretation are indeed in Scripture, but not all of the clues are metaphors.
Agreed; moral laws are not parables. However, parables can be used to teach moral lessons. Song of songs is not a parable, but it does use metaphor and other poetic devices.
I have explained several things, in plain English.
That's a good topic for a separate thread.
That's adding to Scripture again. Scripture actually just says, "But when He was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything." (Mark 4:34).
Scripture doesn't support that idea.
Not all parables are Scripture. Parables are also found in other literature. Revelation is not all a parable; there are two chapters of letters. The clues to interpretation are indeed in Scripture, but not all of the clues are metaphors.
Agreed; moral laws are not parables. However, parables can be used to teach moral lessons. Song of songs is not a parable, but it does use metaphor and other poetic devices.
I have explained several things, in plain English.
That's a good topic for a separate thread.
It seems to me that if Christ lived today in the flesh he would explain the parable like this: Some of you think that the life you live in the flesh is everything, but there is a world of the spirit that is the most important, it is priceless and eternal. You must accept the gospel and be born again to gain this priceless life that is among us.
The verse of scripture that applies so very well is: Matthew 6: 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you. 34Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Today has enough trouble of its own.…
The verse of scripture that applies so very well is: Matthew 6: 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you. 34Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Today has enough trouble of its own.…
The verse does not use water. words are not water ."the words I say to you are spirit and are life" no water needed in that parable. (John 6).
Yes those are the words that will never die.
Water like blood are used to represent the pouring out of the unseen of the Holy Spirit. His doctrine falls(inspired) from the sky like water or dew another metaphor that speaks of the unseen work of the Holy Spirit . Like the parable sweat as if it was drops of blood to indicate the unseen work of pouring out his spirit in jeopardy of his own spirit life .
2 Corinthians 4:18While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
We are not save after the things that do appear. The 20 /20 prescription above is needed for the unseen understanding. Like the parable believe.
Deuteronomy 32:1-3 King James Version (KJV) Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:
as the rain, Not rain . God is not condensation .
Yes those are the words that will never die.
Water like blood are used to represent the pouring out of the unseen of the Holy Spirit. His doctrine falls(inspired) from the sky like water or dew another metaphor that speaks of the unseen work of the Holy Spirit . Like the parable sweat as if it was drops of blood to indicate the unseen work of pouring out his spirit in jeopardy of his own spirit life .
2 Corinthians 4:18While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
We are not save after the things that do appear. The 20 /20 prescription above is needed for the unseen understanding. Like the parable believe.
Deuteronomy 32:1-3 King James Version (KJV) Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:
as the rain, Not rain . God is not condensation .
