Hi guys, Messianic Jew here. scripture swap with less hate please.
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Hi, I have no problem with messianic Jews in principle. One man I admire and respect is Professor James Tour. He's a messianic Jew. He also wrote a thoughtful and helpful letter to a fellow Jew that covers the Law with respect to all Christians. This is his website if you wish to check it out. https://www.jmtour.com/personal-topics/letter-to-michael/
The home page is https://www.jmtour.com/
The verses that perhaps have influenced me the most are John 10:10 and John 14:6, especially the neglected part of 14:6 - Jesus The Life. I'm happy to discuss that with you or anyone else.
The home page is https://www.jmtour.com/
The verses that perhaps have influenced me the most are John 10:10 and John 14:6, especially the neglected part of 14:6 - Jesus The Life. I'm happy to discuss that with you or anyone else.
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Because Israel is still immersed in the ancient mode of thinking that God leads them to win wars
soberxp said:
also can't even fight and win Rome at past....
soberxp said:
also can't even fight and win Rome at past....
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I'm curious: Why would you refer to someone as a Brother if they're not treating you like a Brother? Throughout my life, I have been referred to as "Brother" by perhaps thousands of people, yet little to my own sense of knowledge, I was no Brother at all. I was lost and didn't know it. And because people were calling me Brother for decades, this false title only confirmed the idea that I was Saved, when in fact, I was not. My point is that it would have been much better for me to hear the Truth, which is that I was just a regular sinner on my way to hell.
No one was "testing the Spirit" within me. No one, but I wish that someone had.
1 John 4:1 NKJV - "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
I was one of those false teachers. I was horrible, for the Lord had yet to Enable me to understand His Holy Word.
No one was "testing the Spirit" within me. No one, but I wish that someone had.
1 John 4:1 NKJV - "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
I was one of those false teachers. I was horrible, for the Lord had yet to Enable me to understand His Holy Word.
although you didn't grant me my request, i'll grant you yours. You're my brother because Yahh said you are. regardless to whether we see eye to eye, and even if i try to dig deep, and that is rejected, either way you are my brother. phil1'15-18 doesn't apply here, but if it did, i'd stand on the word. i love you because i have been forgiven, and honestly i'm a piece of work. so i come here to gain perspective and share my own.
this shorter message is so much less pompous. look at any of my posts. i don't believe there is any difference either. i believe we are all together in israel. if you could only hear what i'm saying, you would stand with me. i'm convinced of that because i can see you are a brother.
you aren't being considerate about how you are messaging me with these college texts honestly. give me a deep dive on one scripture, not 18 scriptures followed by exposition. that works if you in front of me at the pulpit. i'll listen to you for hours just off the strength that i know you say what you say with a purpose. but this is a forum. think about your audience please.
also, i still want your perspective on isa56.3 and eph1.5. just seeing how your thought process works. i have a lot more, but to be considerate i have restricted myself to only asking for these. if not, i wasn't being plucky when i called you brother. i admire what i have seen so far, and i'm only interested in building bridges here. if you disagree with my phraseology, look at how i've let Yahh mold my speech, and you'll see i'm not being a douche. love you seriously, dude
you aren't being considerate about how you are messaging me with these college texts honestly. give me a deep dive on one scripture, not 18 scriptures followed by exposition. that works if you in front of me at the pulpit. i'll listen to you for hours just off the strength that i know you say what you say with a purpose. but this is a forum. think about your audience please.
also, i still want your perspective on isa56.3 and eph1.5. just seeing how your thought process works. i have a lot more, but to be considerate i have restricted myself to only asking for these. if not, i wasn't being plucky when i called you brother. i admire what i have seen so far, and i'm only interested in building bridges here. if you disagree with my phraseology, look at how i've let Yahh mold my speech, and you'll see i'm not being a douche. love you seriously, dude
Yippy-yahooo! Round 'em up thar partner!!!
Methinks me likes you. Yer shur is full 'a P and vinegar! You could almost pass fer an oyster (on a very foggy day.)
If you believe everything in the NT is true, and can say "yes" to all of it, then that makes you a born again believer! That's good news, little buddy! (patronization intended)
Methinks me likes you. Yer shur is full 'a P and vinegar! You could almost pass fer an oyster (on a very foggy day.)If you believe everything in the NT is true, and can say "yes" to all of it, then that makes you a born again believer! That's good news, little buddy!
(patronization intended)
Yippy-yahooo! Round 'em up thar partner!!! Methinks me likes you. Yer shur is full 'a P and vinegar! You could almost pass fer an oyster (on a very foggy day.)
If you believe everything in the NT is true, and can say "yes" to all of it, then that makes you a born again believer! That's good news, little buddy! (patronization intended)
Methinks me likes you. Yer shur is full 'a P and vinegar! You could almost pass fer an oyster (on a very foggy day.)If you believe everything in the NT is true, and can say "yes" to all of it, then that makes you a born again believer! That's good news, little buddy!
(patronization intended)
lol could have saved yourself some time and read my posts. ive been in christ for a while now.
and i AM ful o p and vinegar. my grandaddy use to say...
"boy, you SOME dumb
but yain't PLUMB dumb"
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you seem very emotionally driven it’s odd because I’ve not intended to insult or offend you with a single word I think we have a lot of disagreement and also you aren’t understanding what I’m saying
but I’ve meant no offense to ya just your op the first original post you do t seem to want to discuss those things you brought up in the original post
like all those scriptures you feel are so in irrelevant and seem to not even read them you seem as if you came I. Offended to this post but it’s all good insults and stuff don’t bother me at all pompous lol haven’t heard that word in a bit
I think perception is sometimes an issue especially when someone doesn’t agree
I don’t see any value honestly in continuing honsnelty tou haven’t even addressed by of the posts I left you just complained and insisted I was insulting you and needed to re read all your posts lol
I think I could take time and do this
Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.”
Romans 9:27-28 KJV
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
then could show you how one becomes an Israelite and gets saved
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:26-29 KJV
and I think you would then explain I’m being pompous me insulting you so it seems like a waste of both our time but yeah I was never offended by you and didn’t intentionally offend you either
if you go back and actually read my posts to you , you will find a time of information to consider like that believing remnant
Yet, behold, therein shall be left a remnant that shall be brought forth, both sons and daughters: behold, they shall come forth unto you, and ye shall see their way and their doings: and ye shall be comforted concerning the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, even concerning all that I have brought upon it.
And they shall comfort you, when ye see their ways and their doings: and ye shall know that I have not done without cause all that I have done in it, saith the Lord God.”
Ezekiel 14:21-23 KJV
The early church is Israel’s remnant and all believers are the nation of Israel being gathered in zion
but I’ve meant no offense to ya just your op the first original post you do t seem to want to discuss those things you brought up in the original post
like all those scriptures you feel are so in irrelevant and seem to not even read them you seem as if you came I. Offended to this post but it’s all good insults and stuff don’t bother me at all pompous lol haven’t heard that word in a bit
I think perception is sometimes an issue especially when someone doesn’t agree
I don’t see any value honestly in continuing honsnelty tou haven’t even addressed by of the posts I left you just complained and insisted I was insulting you and needed to re read all your posts lol
I think I could take time and do this
Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.”
Romans 9:27-28 KJV
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
then could show you how one becomes an Israelite and gets saved
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:26-29 KJV
and I think you would then explain I’m being pompous me insulting you so it seems like a waste of both our time but yeah I was never offended by you and didn’t intentionally offend you either
if you go back and actually read my posts to you , you will find a time of information to consider like that believing remnant
Yet, behold, therein shall be left a remnant that shall be brought forth, both sons and daughters: behold, they shall come forth unto you, and ye shall see their way and their doings: and ye shall be comforted concerning the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, even concerning all that I have brought upon it.
And they shall comfort you, when ye see their ways and their doings: and ye shall know that I have not done without cause all that I have done in it, saith the Lord God.”
Ezekiel 14:21-23 KJV
The early church is Israel’s remnant and all believers are the nation of Israel being gathered in zion
That should be "We are together in THE CHURCH". Not in Israel. God has another plan for redeemed and restored Israel, but at present redeemed Jews and Gentiles are in the Church -- the Body of Christ.
And since you are a black Christian, you cannot even call yourself "Messianic". Only converted Jews take that designation.
And since you are a black Christian, you cannot even call yourself "Messianic". Only converted Jews take that designation.
I don't think Peter was in the control of the adversary when the Lord said get behind me satan.
I think Peter was expressing his care and love for his friend.
He just inadvertantly disagreed with Gods Plan, unknowingly.
I think it shows that even when we THINK we are being "good" before God we are not even close.
I think Peter was expressing his care and love for his friend.
He just inadvertantly disagreed with Gods Plan, unknowingly.
I think it shows that even when we THINK we are being "good" before God we are not even close.
Who said anything about skin color affecting salvation? In fact, if there is neither Jew nor Gentile in the Body of Christ, it should be obvious that Messianic Jews are not holding totally to the teachings of the New Testament. They are maintaining a distinction between Jews and Gentiles. And segregation in either black or white churches is also unacceptable to God.
However, there is no question that the Leftists and Communists in America are using racial differences to divide people, and using Critical Race Theory to destroy America. And Christians need to speak out against that nonsense.
However, there is no question that the Leftists and Communists in America are using racial differences to divide people, and using Critical Race Theory to destroy America. And Christians need to speak out against that nonsense.
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