Hermeneutics: Interpreting Scripture

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So, what can we learn from Paul's prayers in Col. 1:3&9b-12, Eph. 1:15-19 & Phil. 1:3-11?
May I propose to you crickets that we can learn the following from Col. 1:3 & 9b-10:

Col. 1:3: "We always thank God, the Father" - We should direct prayers to God the Father, and prayers begin well by expressing gratitude.
"of our Lord Jesus Christ" - We pray because of faith in Jesus as Messiah/the incarnate Lord (v.4).
"when we pray for you" - Prayer may be spontaneous and intercessory

Col. 1:9b: "We have not stopped praying for you" - Intercessory prayers may be "continual" or frequent and repeated.
"and asking God to fill you with the knowledge of His will" - Prayers should ask God for learning of His will/word.
"through all spiritual wisdom and understanding" - Prayers should harmonize with Scripture.

Col. 1:10: "We pray this in order that you may live a life worthy of the Lord" - A main purpose of prayer should be moral improvement.
"and may please Him in every way" - Moral perfection should be the goal of every believer.
"bearing fruit in every good work" - The fruit of the HS includes all good works.
"growing in the knowledge of God" - Perfection is a life-long learning process.

Paul continues describing what perfection includes, but not with specific reference to prayer,
so I will pause to ask whether any of y'all want to take a turn at proposing what can be gleaned from Eph. 1:15-19a.
 
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The core of the prayer in the first chapter of Ephesians is found in verses 16-18.

Eph. 1:16: "I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers" - Paul also began his prayer in Col. 1:3 by thanking God for the faith of the recipients of his epistle.

Eph. 1:17: "I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father," - Paul also addressed his prayer in Col. 1:3 to God the Father.
"may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation" - The Spirit of wisdom is equivalent to "spiritual wisdom" in Col. 1:9, and revelation refers to "knowledge/understanding of His will" in Col. 1:9.
"so that you may know Him better" - The word "so" is equivalent to "in order that" in Col. 1:9, so it is likely that knowing God better is another way of saying living "a life worthy of the Lord" in Col. 1:9.

Eph. 1:18: "I pray also that the eyes of your heart" - The heart in Scripture refers to the human spirit (2Cor. 1:22, 3:2-3, 4:6, Eph. 3:17, Col. 3:15-16, etc.) and "eyes" refers to the human will (MFW, Matt. 13:14-15).
"may be enlightened" - Enlightenment is akin to edification, which occurs as a believer learns GW (Psa. 119:105), and it is in the same vein as "growing in the knowledge of God" in Col. 1:10.
"in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you" - A main purpose of Paul's prayer and aspect of learning is understanding the hope of heaven and experiencing it in part during one's earthly sojourn.
"the riches of His glorious inheritance in the saints." - Paul compares spiritual blessings to physical wealth and calls them "glorious", as he did the Father in v.17, which indicates that desire for heaven is the proper motivation for wanting salvation.

At this point Paul's prayer segues into discussion of God's power, so next let us look at his prayer in Phi. 1:3-11.
 
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The continuing discussion on the Free Will thread indicates the need to reiterate the results of our systematic study of the doctrine of election, which concluded with posts #616-624.

First, let us apply the survey of Romans 1-11 (R#1-42) to TULIP and MFW in order to see which parts of these interpretations are supported by that Scripture. The application will continue the enumeration of the survey for future reference, beginning with TULIP.

43. Regarding Total depravity, R#1-6 teach that all normal adult humans are sinners and that God’s intent (will/desire) is to lead them to repent, so they will not condemn themselves to suffer righteous wrath—which implies that sinners are enabled by God’s leading to repent, so their depravity does not totally nullify MFW.

44. Regarding Unconditional election, R#10, 11, 14 & 15 specifically cite faith/belief as the condition for receiving s/e. R#17 illustrates this truth with the example of Abraham leading to the conclusion that faith is the condition for justification or s/e in R#18. R#34 laments that Jews as a whole failed to satisfy the condition of faith, and R#35 celebrates that everyone may satisfy that condition.

45. Regarding Limited atonement, R#20&21 indicate that Christ died to pay the penalty for all sins of all sinners, and R#29 laments the fact that most Jews reject Christ’s atonement, although R#37 finds consolation because there remains a remnant who have not stumbled over the stumbling-stone, who is Christ (R#34).

46. Regarding Irresistible grace, R#3&4 refer to wicked souls who spurn (resist) God’s kindness and do not repent. References to “all who believe” (R#11) and to “the man who has faith” (R#15) imply there are some who resist God's will or leading to saving faith. R#32 cites pharaoh as an example of a sinner who hardened his heart against God’s will.

47. Regarding Perseverance, R#6 implies the need for those who do not resist God’s leading to persist in doing that. R#40 mentions God’s kindness to believers provided that they continue to believe, because if not they “also will be cut off”.

Next, let us consider the remaining Scriptures cited in the descriptions of the TULIP and MFW interpretations in light of Romans 1-11.

51. T - Mark 7:21-23 lists some evil thoughts in sinful hearts, but it does not teach that evil people cannot repent. Rather, Jesus states this truth in order to prick sinners’ hearts and lead them to repent of ignoring the commands of God in order to preserve the traditions of men (Mark 7:6-13, R#3&4). 1Cor. 2:14 says that those without the Spirit view GW as foolishness, but this does not teach that unspiritual souls cannot repent. Rather, Paul urges the readers to humble themselves and accept the foolishness of God (the crucifixion of Christ per 2:8, cf. R#12-15) as wiser than the wisdom of the world (1Cor. 1:27-31, 3:18-19).

52. U – The only Scripture cited as specifically supporting this point is R#21, but only if universal salvation is also accepted as being taught by the reference to all/many, but Romans 5:17 limits the many to those who receive God’s grace, and Romans 4:16 & 5:1 teach that grace is received through faith, making it the condition for reception (s/e).

53. L – In Matthew 20:28 Jesus said that his life is given as a ransom for many (stated also in Hebrews 9:28), but this does not preclude anyone who has faith being included, and Scriptures such as 1Timothy 2:3-4 indicate God’s desire for all to become “many” (John 3:16, Acts 2:21, 1John 2:2), indicating that although Christ’s death atoned for the sins of all humanity only for those who accept Jesus as Messiah does it result in forgiveness (s/e, R#14&18).

54. I - Phil. 2:13 says that God works in believers to will and act according to His good purpose, but this does not mean that believers do not willingly cooperate (R#23).

55. P – John 10:27-29 states that Jesus gives his sheep eternal life, and no one can snatch them, which is stated by Paul in Romans 8:35-39 as being separated from the love of God in Christ. However, there are numerous Scriptures indicating that a believer may not persevere (including John 8:31, Matt. 10:22& Heb. 10:36), so although God gives endurance per Romans 15:4-5, it too must be received through continued faith (2Cor. 5:7) “from first to last” (Romans 1:17).