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I may try something like that... thank you for the suggestion .:)

Even though I left here over half an hour later than I had wanted, I still got to my daughter's place just after 2, which is well within the time frame I said I'd be there (between 2-3). There was not much traffic. We had a lovely visit with each other, exchanged our gifts, gabbed our heads off, and eventually sat down to a wonderful Christmas feast of roasted turkey breast with all the trimmings: stuffing (my absolute fave!), mashed with gravy, browned slices of yam or sweet potato, beans with something like small crunchy onion rings, and cranberry sauce. Plus, Auntie gave me a huge to-go container of leftovers; I think she felt guilty because last year (I think it was last year) she forgot to give me leftovers to take home with me. By the time clean-up was done it was close to seven, and my daughter wanted us to watch a movie together, so we settled on a Nicholas Cage number called Dream Scenario, which was interesting to say the least haha. By the time the movie ended it was close to nine so I said my good byes, packed up my goodies and was home before ten. It took longer to get home: more traffic and rainier. Last year we had snow and a while Christmas. This December we have been breaking records for warmest December days in about a hundred years. All-in-all, a lovely day, even though I could not find two of the gifts to wrap, one of which was Auntie's. Oops! All afternoon and throughout dinner we listened to a lovely, mostly mellow selection of Christmas tunes, many of them about Jesus.

Thank you for listening to me go on and on. Here is one of the panels I fixed after having it bug me for a long time how I had changed the robe colour, because I did not know how to do it back then and made a bit of a mess of it, using a brush instead of a different tool. One time when I showed my daughter one of my panels, I told her the robe had started out red, but I changed it to magenta. She replied, "Of course you did." .:LOL:



I hope you had a wonderful day with your family .:)
Pretty much the same here we had had to travel 80 miles to our Christmas family party .

We got there around about 2
Pm. I got immediately licked to death by a German gundog that went on for most of the afternoon, Betty remembered from last year i was most likely source to share the Christmas turkey I reckon 😊.

When we arrived the Christmas tree was full and it well and truly felt like father Christmas had been 😊.

I got the thickest pair of woolly socks you have ever seen in your life, knitted by my sister with a nice wooly hat and ear muffs, just the job for those cold mornings out side I thought, chuckle they had been knitted in rainbow colours, then I opened another present to find my favorit chocolates and another parcel to find my favourite drink Budweiser, which I haven't drank from last Christmas, after drinking just one bottle I was soon very tipsy, as always I got carried away. And I'm still stuffed this morning lol.

The only disappointed was we couldn't stay as long as we would have liked to this year, we normally stop over for a few days but my partner is currently under virtual ward so we had to get back, she had to drive tho, just to be on the safe side not that I was overly drunk but I did have the hic ups.

Where going again next week for a happy new year's knees up, hopefully my partner will be recovered she's got sepsis at the moment, she has to be monitored daily on a virtual ward at home, just in case her heart beat flies through the roof again,

She got many presents of my sister's to
My sister has the same taste as her, it's quite canny they bought each other identical jumpers lol.

I hope every one else had a good day here Christmas can be a lonely time for some people
 
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One does not go by feelings to try and understand what is in Scripture. The Great Tribulation is a UNIQUE EVENT. It has never occurred before and will never occur again. So there have not been many great tribulations. And we are definitely NOT in The Tribulation.
that's funny there's been lots of tribulations around here. I think anyone who says the world is not in tribulation right now is living a laxy Daisey life, floating in the breeze with butterflys flying around there head, quite possibly on meds too 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
 
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One does not go by feelings to try and understand what is in Scripture. .
if one can not go by feeling where not in tribulation how would you know your in tribulation.

If one could not go of feeling how could you not feel a world without Jesus walking around in the flesh is a world that is free from tribulation, because obviously you have your measure of faith and I have mine 🥳🥳🥳🥳🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
 

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^ "The Day of the Lord" (especially the "judgments" aspect--what we call 'The Trib'--unfolding upon the earth over SOME TIME) will ARRIVE / COMMENCE at a very specific point in time, with very specific evidences "in play" (biblically-speaking).

THAT is how one would know.




Not by how one "feels". = ) (that is how the "false claim" Paul spoke of in 2Th2:2 likely came about... someone "feeling" it was so. lol... "[purporting] that the Day of the Lord IS PRESENT / IS ALREADY HERE [perfect indicative]." To which, Paul says, "NOT!" :D )
 
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^ "The Day of the Lord" (especially the "judgments" aspect--what we call 'The Trib'--unfolding upon the earth over SOME TIME) will ARRIVE / COMMENCE at a very specific point in time, with very specific evidences "in play" (biblically-speaking).

THAT is how one would know.




Not by how one "feels". = ) (that is how the "false claim" Paul spoke of in 2Th2:2 likely came about... someone "feeling" it was so. lol... "[purporting] that the Day of the Lord IS PRESENT / IS ALREADY HERE [perfect indicative]." To which, Paul says, "NOT!" :D )
I think you feel many things yourself here 😋

If you don't think the man of lawlessness has not already been revealed you must be blind,

I guess you think the scripture means the whole world will see the man of lawlessness,

But what I feel is are you implying satan will be born in the flesh,

YEAH BABY

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^ @Thunderrr-mental , your second line has a double negative, so I'm not exactly clear on your meaning there. :)



And I do not believe "the man of sin" is Satan, but a man [/human]. Same guy [human] as in Dan11:36, and a number of other passages... like the Dan7:20,21,24b speaks of, there calling him "another horn [/king]"... so yeah, this is not speaking of "Satan" but a human/man...

This is why Revelation also distinguishes them, where 19:20 says "the beast... and with him the false prophet... These both were CAST ALIVE into a lake of fire burning with brimstone" (at Christ's Second Coming to the earth time-slot), no "exit" out of this, for them! ;) ; but of Satan (at that point) it is said in 20:3, "And cast him into the bottomless pit... TILL the thousand years are concluded: and after that he must be loosed a little season"... whereas LATER / AFTER that 1000 yrs, he then is "cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, WHERE the beast and false prophet" have been for those 1000 years already (since Christ's Second Coming to the earth point in time Rev19 / Armageddon time-slot).

This proves they are not one and the same entity.

Are you thinking that they are?
 
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^ @Thunderrr-mental , your second line has a double negative, so I'm not exactly clear on your meaning there. :)



And I do not believe "the man of sin" is Satan, but a man [/human]. Same guy [human] as in Dan11:36, and a number of other passages... like the Dan7:20,21,24b speaks of, there calling him "another horn [/king]"... so yeah, this is not speaking of "Satan" but a human/man...

This is why Revelation also distinguishes them, where 19:20 says "the beast... and with him the false prophet... These both were CAST ALIVE into a lake of fire burning with brimstone" (at Christ's Second Coming to the earth time-slot), no "exit" out of this, for them! ;) ; but of Satan (at that point) it is said in 20:3, "And cast him into the bottomless pit... TILL the thousand years are concluded: and after that he must be loosed a little season"... whereas LATER / AFTER that 1000 yrs, he then is "cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, WHERE the beast and false prophet" have been for those 1000 years already (since Christ's Second Coming to the earth point in time Rev19 / Armageddon time-slot).

This proves they are not one and the same entity.

Are you thinking that they are?
explain to me why
Dan7:20,21,24b is a man and not a spiritual realm .

And explain to me how Thessalonians 2:2 is quoting reference to the same meaning you feel.
 

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Pretty much the same here we had had to travel 80 miles to our Christmas family party .

We got there around about 2
Pm. I got immediately licked to death by a German gundog that went on for most of the afternoon, Betty remembered from last year i was most likely source to share the Christmas turkey I reckon 😊.

When we arrived the Christmas tree was full and it well and truly felt like father Christmas had been 😊.

I got the thickest pair of woolly socks you have ever seen in your life, knitted by my sister with a nice wooly hat and ear muffs, just the job for those cold mornings out side I thought, chuckle they had been knitted in rainbow colours, then I opened another present to find my favorit chocolates and another parcel to find my favourite drink Budweiser, which I haven't drank from last Christmas, after drinking just one bottle I was soon very tipsy, as always I got carried away. And I'm still stuffed this morning lol.

The only disappointed was we couldn't stay as long as we would have liked to this year, we normally stop over for a few days but my partner is currently under virtual ward so we had to get back, she had to drive tho, just to be on the safe side not that I was overly drunk but I did have the hic ups.

Where going again next week for a happy new year's knees up, hopefully my partner will be recovered she's got sepsis at the moment, she has to be monitored daily on a virtual ward at home, just in case her heart beat flies through the roof again,

She got many presents of my sister's to
My sister has the same taste as her, it's quite canny they bought each other identical jumpers lol.

I hope every one else had a good day here Christmas can be a lonely time for some people
Sepsis sounds very serious; I hope she recovers quickly! Well, you said partner, so I am assuming it is a "she" haha. I jest. But it segues nicely into when I was talking with my sister Christmas Eve day; I was telling her some story from years ago about a Christmas I spent with a different sister's inlaws who lived very close to me. I believe a friend of mine was welcome to come as well, which was very nice considering my daughter's family had to have a pow wow one year when I asked if I could bring a female friend for Christmas dinner (they decided on "No"!). Anyways, mid-sentence, when I was saying my lesbian friend, my sister interrupted to say she thought I was going to say lesbian lover. We had a good laugh over that. So my sister who wakes up every day not knowing how she is going to get on with her life and spends a good deal of everyday crying, was laughing on the phone with me. That was precious.

80 miles is a long drive! My daughter is about 12 miles away (18 kilometers). Sounds like you had a lovely time. It was so interesting for me to hear hours and hours of all the Christmas tunes they had on, since it was a mix of songs abouts toy trains, for instance, and loving Christmas trees, and carols about the true reason for the celebration of December 25th, even as most Christians realize it is highly unlikely that Jesus was really born that day. Neither my daughter nor her aunt are believers, and my daughter's dad was pretty much a hard-core atheist, so he and auntie and I had had some friction around that many years after I became Christian, mostly back in 2016 when Trump was coming into power. Fortunately for me, my daughter is very respectful toward me and never argues with me about these things, and she has heard a lot from me over the last two decades about my life as a Christian. She always listens patiently and sometimes asks questions, not so much about God or Jesus, but other things relative to my Christianity, and she knows how much it means to me and how wonderful my church family is, and of course hears about the times I spend online as a Christian, and knows of my love of designing Scripture panels. She got Photoshop for me after pixlr went offline in 2018 and then came back dumbed down so much it was useless to me for what I was doing. She really is a wonderful daughter, and it was so nice to see her again. We have not seen each other very much this year. She has had covid three times. (Not three times last year.)

When I got up this morning just before 8 and looked out my window, the full moon was hanging well above the horizon, slowly sinking into wispy clouds. So beautiful, and I had not known before that what phase of the moon we were in. Now the sun is shining, and I see blue sky. Have a wonderful day!
 
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Sepsis sounds very serious; I hope she recovers quickly! Well, you said partner, so I am assuming it is a "she" haha. I jest. But it segues nicely into when I was talking with my sister Christmas Eve day; I was telling her some story from years ago about a Christmas I spent with a different sister's inlaws who lived very close to me. I believe a friend of mine was welcome to come as well, which was very nice considering my daughter's family had to have a pow wow one year when I asked if I could bring a female friend for Christmas dinner (they decided on "No"!). Anyways, mid-sentence, when I was saying my lesbian friend, my sister interrupted to say she thought I was going to say lesbian lover. We had a good laugh over that. So my sister who wakes up every day not knowing how she is going to get on with her life and spends a good deal of everyday crying, was laughing on the phone with me. That was precious.

80 miles is a long drive! My daughter is about 12 miles away (18 kilometers). Sounds like you had a lovely time. It was so interesting for me to hear hours and hours of all the Christmas tunes they had on, since it was a mix of songs abouts toy trains, for instance, and loving Christmas trees, and carols about the true reason for the celebration of December 25th, even as most Christians realize it is highly unlikely that Jesus was really born that day. Neither my daughter nor her aunt are believers, and my daughter's dad was pretty much a hard-core atheist, so he and auntie and I had had some friction around that many years after I became Christian, mostly back in 2016 when Trump was coming into power. Fortunately for me, my daughter is very respectful toward me and never argues with me about these things, and she has heard a lot from me over the last two decades about my life as a Christian. She always listens patiently and sometimes asks questions, not so much about God or Jesus, but other things relative to my Christianity, and she knows how much it means to me and how wonderful my church family is, and of course hears about the times I spend online as a Christian, and knows of my love of designing Scripture panels. She got Photoshop for me after pixlr went offline in 2018 and then came back dumbed down so much it was useless to me for what I was doing. She really is a wonderful daughter, and it was so nice to see her again. We have not seen each other very much this year. She has had covid three times. (Not three times last year.)

When I got up this morning just before 8 and looked out my window, the full moon was hanging well above the horizon, slowly sinking into wispy clouds. So beautiful, and I had not known before that what phase of the moon we were in. Now the sun is shining, and I see blue sky. Have a wonderful day!
lol joke accepted haha.

No I'm only a Shirley when it comes to washing the dishes,

Most of my family are sister and brother in law's so I can relate to what your saying. It's nice we get on now tho. 🙂
 

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lol joke accepted haha.

No I'm only a Shirley when it comes to washing the dishes,

Most of my family are sister and brother in law's so I can relate to what your saying. It's nice we get on now tho. 🙂
How wonderful for your partner that you do dishes! We do seem to like to speak about family matters with each other. That is interesting! And yes, it has been pleasant. Still, we are likely to continue to disagree about other things relative to Scripture. LOL. Not to worry. I have seen how hard you have been trying to get along and make amends with others you have had disagreements with, and I commend you for that.
 
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How wonderful for your partner that you do dishes! We do seem to like to speak about family matters with each other. That is interesting! And yes, it has been pleasant. Still, we are likely to continue to disagree about other things relative to Scripture. LOL. Not to worry. I have seen how hard you have been trying to get along and make amends with others you have had disagreements with, and I commend you for that.
lol I bought her a dish washer last Christmas


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Well that present was actually bought for me

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Happy days

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