Have you ever considered this??

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Sorry folks. I've been down these rabbit holes, here, so many times. I'm too busy for repeating myself. I've been accused of having one thing on my mind, Circumcision, and that means its time for me to move on. I will, at least, be taking time off, if not moving onward to a different forum.

Senseless debate with people who are supposed to be my "brothers and sisters" in Christ is accomplishing nothing positive.

May the Lord Bless you all with the most incredible of Blessings.

 

[Journeyman]

Sorry folks. I've been down these rabbit holes, here, so many times.

I haven't created a rabbit hole. I asked you to comment directly on the passages I cited in your own words, as I commented directly on the passages you cited. You haven't done that once. That's what I did for a long time. All scripture must agree,

Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not. Isa.65:12

Apparently, God gave people the ability to hear and respond.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter

Would you like to conduct a Zoom or Web meeting call with me? That way you can say these things to me "face to face."

 

[Gardenias]

Remember 2 ND Timothy when you were wrong about JOB?
Then you learned!

In this attitude all I see is someone looking to be disproven again but too arrogant to listen and learn.

People that act like that have low self-esteem and lack confidence.

All I see is wanting to BE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT , and you're not.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Remember 2 ND Timothy when you were wrong about JOB?
Then you learned!

In this attitude all I see is someone looking to be disproven again but too arrogant to listen and learn.

People that act like that have low self-esteem and lack confidence.

All I see is wanting to BE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT , and you're not.

And would you like to conduct a Zoom or Web Meeting call with me? I'd love to have a chat with you to see if you'd have this same energy. What do you say?

 

[Gardenias]

And would you like to conduct a Zoom or Web Meeting call with me? I'd love to have a chat with you to see if you'd have this same energy. What do you say?

😂😂😂😂😂😂
Are you DENSE?
Seeing your face ,won't change your mind and I don't follow people who know little😀
You can't stand reproof,correction,instruction nor rebuke little boy. I'm not your momma, or you'd know better!

 

[Journeyman]

Would you like to conduct a Zoom or Web meeting call with me? That way you can say these things to me "face to face."

No, because I don't give my phone # or address to people I've never met. What I would like to do is have you tell me what you think the scriptures I cited mean, because you haven't done it yet.

 

[Gardenias]

No, because I don't give my phone # or address to people I've never met. What I would like to do is have you tell me what you think the scriptures I cited mean, because you haven't done it yet.

He won't bc he doesn't KNOW.
He might look it up real quick and give you some yahoos thoughts.
When a person continues to go round and round in their own wheel house we can dust them off,leave them to God or keep trying...........lol im stubborn

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

😂😂😂😂😂😂
Are you DENSE?
Seeing your face ,won't change your mind and I don't follow people who know little😀
You can't stand reproof,correction,instruction nor rebuke little boy. I'm not your momma, or you'd know better!

Nah. You can reproof me all you like. It doesn't bother me at all. You can call me names, belittle me, berate me . . . all of the standard things that you've been doing for quite some time now. Let me know if you'd like to continue to vent and get these things off of your chest.

May the Lord grant you the most incredible of Blessings.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

No, because I don't give my phone # or address to people I've never met. What I would like to do is have you tell me what you think the scriptures I cited mean, because you haven't done it yet.

Sir. I am unemployed and have been for many months. My expenses are $2,500 per month. That's $10,000 per four months. The government is not helping me financially. I am currently studying to be a licensed Real Estate Broker and I pretty much study all day long, with the exception of responding to you folks, here.

I am at a point where I can no longer keep typing the exact same scriptures over and over again, particularly if they are not being recognized or understood.

So, you can either grant me a Zoom call or you can simply accept my explanation. Either way, I don't care . . . and I have to take a break from this place because I am wasting expensive time.

May the Lord grant you the most incredible of Blessings imaginable.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

He won't bc he doesn't KNOW.
He might look it up real quick and give you some yahoos thoughts.
When a person continues to go round and round in their own wheel house we can dust them off,leave them to God or keep trying...........lol im stubborn

You are perhaps the rudest person on this site. I am very sad for you. I hope that you will choose to discontinue your baiting, goading, harassment and bullying. I really wish the Moderators would put you in check so that you would stop hurting new Christians.

I am embarrassed to share this forum with you.

 

[Gardenias]

Nah. You can reproof me all you like. It doesn't bother me at all. You can call me names, belittle me, berate me . . . all of the standard things that you've been doing for quite some time now. Let me know if you'd like to continue to vent and get these things off of your chest.

May the Lord grant you the most incredible of Blessings.

I am trying to HELP you come to the knowledge of the TRUTH.
IF this is your final refusal to listen,I'll put you back on ignore and won't bother with you.

 

[Gardenias]

You are perhaps the rudest person on this site. I am very sad for you. I hope that you will choose to discontinue your baiting, goading, harassment and bullying. I really wish the Moderators would put you in check so that you would stop hurting new Christians.

I am embarrassed to share this forum with you.

THANK you for direct persecution,I love it..

I have hurt NO ONE ON PURPOSE .
A baby in Christ you claim NOT to be, but seasoned, hmmmmmm, looks like NOT SEASONED.

You embarrass yourself.

Jesus called his followers SALT of the earth!
Salt makes one thirsty and thirst brings them to the LIVING WATER,JESUS!

 

[Journeyman]

Sir. I am unemployed and have been for many months. My expenses are $2,500 per month. That's $10,000 per four months. The government is not helping me financially. I am currently studying to be a licensed Real Estate Broker and I pretty much study all day long, with the exception of responding to you folks, here.

I am at a point where I can no longer keep typing the exact same scriptures over and over again, particularly if they are not being recognized or understood.

So, you can either grant me a Zoom call or you can simply accept my explanation. Either way, I don't care . . . and I have to take a break from this place because I am wasting expensive time.

May the Lord grant you the most incredible of Blessings imaginable.

Sorry to hear of your financial trouble and I hope you get your real estate license.

Please consider why God inspired men to write the scripture. Why God instructed parents to teach them to their children and others. These show us that people have the ability to understand things God wants us to know.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

You don't have to apologize to me for being frank. I like I like it when people say what they mean and we can do that without being rude.

faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom.10:17

By "the word of God", Paul means the scriptures,

How then shall they call on him in whom they have notbelieved? and how shall they believe in him of whom they havenot heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? Rom.10:14

This is why God inspired men to write,

these are written, that ye might believe Jn.20:21

Your belief that sinners can't know God from the scriptures isn't true. If you disagree, then explain the verses I cited. Don't ignore them. Don't hop over to another passage. Deal with what I just cited. Ok?

Yes, he chose them based on what he said to them in the verses preceding vs.16, which is abiding in him.

And when I showed you how God chooses people rich in faith and looks on the humble, you didnt comment on those passages.

Paul was a man of integrity even before he came to know the Lord. He wasn't chosen arbitrarily. If I heard God audibly and was then stricken blind by him, I'm sure I'd pay close attention to what he said. This is what God gave Paul and for this reason,

For unto whomsoevermuch is given, of him shall be much required Lk.12:48

And Paul didn't disappoint.

You're interpreting Eph.1:4 to mean God arbitrarily chooses people. That's not what Paul means. He's saying God chose those in Christ inother words, believers....people of faith.

And when Paul says "US" and •WE"in vss.3,4,5,7,8,9,11 and 12, he means the Jewish people.

Then he says,

In whom YE also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of yours alvation:[/b] in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed withthat holy Spirit of promise, vs.13

Ye (gentiles) had faith after hearing the gospel.

If you can't see at this time the plain reading of the passages you're citing, there's no point in continuing this subject.

Amen good post I would say though the “word of God ” is a reference specifically about the gospel that’s where we find knowledge of him or how we can know him

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the word of God is everything written concerning Jesus and that’s how we can know our God to look at Christ and believe his word it is literally the knowledge of God to hear and believe Jesus Christ and the gospel

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Sorry to hear of your financial trouble and I hope you get your real estate license.

Thanks.

If you'd ever like to have a Zoom or Web Meeting call, send me an email at 2ndtimothygroup.com. You'll be surprised to find that I am not as you have falsely judged me to be.

Till then . . .

 

[Journeyman]

Thanks.

If you'd ever like to have a Zoom or Web Meeting call, send me an email at 2ndtimothygroup.com. You'll be surprised to find that I am not as you have falsely judged me to be.

Till then . . .

In less time than it took to write this, you could have explained what Jn.20:31 means.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

In less time than it took to write this, you could have explained what Jn.20:31 means.

Let me know when you'd like to set up a Zoom or Web Meeting. I'd like to hear you say the things you've posted for all to read . . . to my face.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Let me know when you'd like to set up a Zoom or Web Meeting. I'd like to hear you say the things you've posted for all to read . . . to my face.

brother you seem to get easily offended I say this as a fellow Christian it’s on us to not get offended people are going to say things they are going to disagree well even argue at times me juvenile types might even call you a name.

but as a man of God we have to not get offended when people oppose us in order to have an effective ministry

“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves;

if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:24-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I hope this isn’t offensive to you it is said in love because I know your desire to be more effective in your witness. Remember “ be not easily offended , bless when you feel you’ve been cursed insults or whatever you perceive are trying to get you off track through emotions your quick to cut off people of they don’t agree but how can you ever persuade anyone don They aren’t at odds in the beginning somewhat ?

and if we carry offense constantly we’re always going to be emotional

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

brother you seem to get easily offended I say this as a fellow Christian it’s on us to not get offended people are going to say things they are going to disagree well even argue at times me juvenile types might even call you a name.

You couldn't have misjudged me more than you have. I could care less what others have to say about me. Re-read what I've written. I've stated clearly that I don't have time for nonsense. I'm super busy and frankly, tired of getting nowhere.

But . . . thanks?