Has the Gospel been preached in all the world?

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ewq1938

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God NEVER made a Coming in judgment, in bodily form, EVERY TIME it was SPIRITUAL.
Are you unable to read??


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soberxp

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Are you unable to read??


and they shall see the Son of man coming

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Who are they ? Do You know who shall see the son of man coming ? you never know, cuz you really don't know.
 

1ofthem

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wow Ive never heard such an interpretation I guess one has to become “ spiritual “ to grasp
It or something.
If that is the only two choices for it, then I think I'll have to go with "or Something". lol
 

soberxp

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Shakespeare said, "there are a thousand Hamlets in the eyes of a thousand viewers."
 

ewq1938

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Who are they ? Do You know who shall see the son of man coming ? you never know, cuz you really don't know.
People are promoting an unseen second coming from the past. Jesus said he would be seen. That's the end of the discussion. The "unseen coming" people are wrong and are promoting heresy.
 

soberxp

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People are promoting an unseen second coming from the past. Jesus said he would be seen. That's the end of the discussion. The "unseen coming" people are wrong and are promoting heresy.
I don't think your understanding is heresy, but you haven't experienced my experience, so I can't blame your understanding for being different from mine. What's different is only the difference in time。:)

Shakespeare said, "there are a thousand Hamlets in the eyes of a thousand viewers."

So God only chose me to see it alone, so there is at least one kind of Hamlet.
 

ewq1938

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I don't think your understanding is heresy

Of course it isn't because my position is scriptural but full preterism is heresy. Anyone claiming the resurrection and/or the second coming already happened are heretics.
 

soberxp

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Of course it isn't because my position is scriptural but full preterism is heresy. Anyone claiming the resurrection and/or the second coming already happened are heretics.
I forgive you, but I will still insist that Jesus has come. As it is written, the LORD came on a day and time you didn't know.

cuz you really don't know, so you call me heretics,I can Understand.
 

soberxp

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That's a lie straight from the devil.
That's what's written in the Bible. I don't want to quote the original text. Read the Bible yourself,I have no obligation to tell you where it is in the Bible, cuz I have told you by my word.
 

ewq1938

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That's what's written in the Bible. I don't want to quote the original text. Read the Bible yourself,I have no obligation to tell you where it is in the Bible, cuz I have told you by my word.

It's not from the bible. No part of full preterism is biblical.
 

studentoftheword

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Has the Gospel been preached in all the world?

No but it will be before the end comes -----


Matthew 24

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The Destruction of the Temple and Signs of the End Times

9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come
 

Gardenias

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Soberxp,DLM and Pureness are now in the box.
Dont want to QUOTE THE ORIGINAL TEXT CUZ IT AIN'T BEEN READ!
Heresy,heresy,heresy

Why would I post SCRIPTURE WHEN THE WORD ISN'T BELIEVED!
 
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The Rapture of the Church and the Raising up of the Saints of Israel are not the same thing, they already married God, they thus do not go to the wedding supper (Armageddon). The Jews are raised at THE END, just like Dan. 12:1-2 says.

The Spirits are in a holding place on earth, that's why Jesus went into the earth for 3 days. In Paradise.

I see the Rapture as the Fall of 2025, I see Apophis as the Revelation chapter 8 Asteroid/Trumpet Judgments. Thus Apophis hits on April 13, 2029, and thus the rapture has to be in the Fall of 2025, 3 1/2 years before the middle of the week Wrath falls.

--You say the rapture has to be in the Fall of 2025...
Like you, many others have also given dates for the rapture; and all of them have failed. Why not just adhere to the sound words of our Lord instead of shedding false, unfounded expectations on the people?

When the Lord predicted Jerusalem's fall at the hands of the Romans. He clearly told the disciples there would come the day for them to see Jerusalem surrounded by the armies, and that was the sure sign to escape for their lives. (As we know, Jerudalem was destroyed and most of their people exiled in 70 A.D.) But in regards to the rapture of the church-age believers, everything will seem to be normal.

[Mat 24:36, 44 NASB95] 36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. ... 44 "For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think [He will.]

[Mar 13:32 NASB95] 32 "But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father [alone.]

And regarding Apophis, click the link below, and see that NASA has recently stated that the risk of it impacting the earth has been ruled out, at least for 2029.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/na...safe-from-asteroid-apophis-for-100-plus-years
 

Rondonmon

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-You say the rapture has to be in the Fall of 2025...
WRONG, wrong, wrong...I said I see it as the Fall of 2025, because me KNOWING Prophecy, and being able to read the signs of the times, and thus knowing the End Times are nigh, therefore see the Apophis Asteroid heading our way as the Day of the Lord God's Wrath (Mountain cast into the Sea in Rev. 8). Thus I stated I SEE....That is my observation as a man called unto Prophecy, but it could happen in 2036 on its next pass by, but it will be CLOSEST on April 13, 2029 and its on Friday the 13 and God loves mocking evil men's traditions and omens.

Apophis will come within 19,000 miles, and that is 10 times closer than the Moon is unto, the earth on that day in 2029!! So, I stated I SEE the Day of the Lord as being Apophis, and since I KNOW the Rapture is Pre Trib, and thus at least 3.5 years before the DOTL event in the middle of the week, then that would place the Rapture somewhere in the fall of 2025, because April of 2029 MINUS 3.5 years = the Fall of 2025. So, nothing is a guess, its me, taking my vast knowledge of all things prophecy and rendering a thoughtful assessment of all things end times. Now could it be 2036? Yes, but I don't see this evil worlds as escaping God's Wrath that long, all the signs point to NOW, Russia, Iran and Turkey are in a sort of Coalition as we speak, the world has gone MAD, we are allowing men into little girls restrooms, allowing these same freaks to swim in women's swimming contests, I think about 1 Billion Babies have been murdered worldwide in the last 50 years. The vast amount of this Facebook/Google/Youtube DATA INFO is ready for a coming Anti-Christ to manipulate. The financial bubble is about to burst etc. etc. etc.

So, like I said, I SEE........... That is me seeing these thigs at this time, I already know its going to happen and O also know how (A Pre Trib Rapture) its going to happen so all I do is look for NOT the Raptures timing like everyone else does, I look instead for the Day of the Lord God's Wrath Event ( Mountain/Asteroid that is cast into the Sea in Rev. 8) and then take off 3.5 years to get THE SEASON I am looking for, the Fall of 2025 would thus fit in a 3.5 year window just before the Apophis Asteroid "FLY BY" would happen.

Like you, many others have also given dates for the rapture; and all of them have failed. Why not just adhere to the sound words of our Lord instead of shedding false, unfounded expectations on the people?
So, as we see, you NOT UNDERSTANDING thing as I do, don't even have the ability to keep us with what I stated without placing FALSE OBSERVATIONS into the record as per what I actually stated.

So instead of saying I stated it would be, why don't you try REREADING and seeing that I said I see it as that, and I also knowing that the Rapture is 3.5 years before the Wrath have an advantage over you guys who are blinded unto that fact. So, I am pointing to what I see as God's Wrath Point via an OBSERVATION which we can see that is heading our way. An Asteroid (Mountain) will be cast into the Sea, and we have NASA Telescopes that can see 20-50 years into the future via what will happen, and via being able to track these courses of asteroids/space rocks. So, Gid foreknew we would have this ability, thus Jesus in Luke clearly says men will SEE THIS COMING and they will FEAR IT TREMENDOUSLY.

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. {RAPTURE)

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Men are going to understand this will hit BEFORE IT HITS !! But Governments will downplay it to try and keep the panic down, but the closer it gets, average joes will be able to see this is going to hit, and they will fear what is coming.

Jesus in the parable of the fig tree Matt. 24:32-35 told us we can KNOW the Season. We are told we can not know the Day nor the Hour, You guys who don't understand the Pre Trib don't even understand what this actually means. The New Year started when the new moon came in, that always happened over a 2 day period, thus the Israeli leaders sent out two-witnesses to spy on the b=new moon, as soon as they saw it had come in, they sent word, and then they blew the Trumps 99 times in 9 sets of 11, thus on the 100th Trump (the LAST TRUMP) it blew LONGER & LOUDER than the other 99 and it officially ended the Summer Harvest (THINK Church Age). Thus this is Paul's LAST TRUMP, it ends the Church Age Harvest of Souls for the Gentiles.

So, we can't know the DAY nor the HOUR because of this, its symbolism, thus in like manner, God sends Jesus on a certain day that only He knows, and Jesus thus blows the LAST TRUMP that ends the Church Age Harvest as we see in Rev. 4:1. So, we can't know the EXACT day nor Hour, but Jesus said we can know when Summer is Near by looking at all the SIGNS, thus we can indeed know THE SEASON.

So, how is the FALL of 2025 a Day or Hour? I think we can indeed know the DOTL (Asteroid) because we will see it coming way ahead of time, we can thus also know the day of the Second Coming, because that will happen exactly 1260 days after the Anti-Christ conquers Jerusalem/Israel. So, only the Pre Trib Rapture fits. But its not DATE SETTING which is picking a day for the coming rapture. But indeed I SEASON SET, and in Matt. 24:32-35 Jesus said we can and should know THE SEASON !!

When the Lord predicted Jerusalem's fall at the hands of the Romans. He clearly told the disciples there would come the day for them to see Jerusalem surrounded by the armies, and that was the sure sign to escape for their lives. (As we know, Jerudalem was destroyed and most of their people exiled in 70 A.D.) But in regards to the rapture of the church-age believers, everything will seem to be normal.
This is INCORRECT, you ought to know better brother, Jesus said just the opposite, he was merely WARNING THEM NOT TO COME BACK, not to flee Jerusalem. So, only Matt. 24:4-6 fits he 70 AD events, Matt. 24:7-14 is the Church Age Events, Matt. 24:15-31 is the 70th week Events. Matt. 24:32-35 is the Parable of the Fig Tree and Matt. 24:36-51 is the Rapture of the Church.

[Mat 24:36, 44 NASB95] 36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. ... 44 "For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think [He will.]
Thus the DAY & HOUR no one will know, but THE SEASON we can know, we should know by the RIPENESS of the Fig that SUMMER IS NIGH. Thus me telling you the Fall of 2025 is me seeing the Figs and understanding the SEASON we are in, it is not me telling you the exact Day and Hour we will be Raptured.

And regarding Apophis, click the link below, and see that NASA has recently stated that the risk of it impacting the earth has been ruled out, at least for 2029.
1.) They would lie to you if they thought it was going to hit anyway, you ought to know that.

2.) Many scientists have stated, ANYONE trying to say an Asteroid coming that close in 8 years time will INDEED MISS the earth is just utter hogwash. A sun burst can warm it enough to change an nth of a degree, OR as I imagine, if it is coming that close, and the SIGNS are all around us, thus why is it you seem to trust "NASA" and not the SIGNS all around you?

I see the SEASON.....NOW. You sound like you trust men more than God's signs which are obvious to me. Then again, you can't even get the simple Pre Trib Rapture correct brother. It is what it is. God Bless.