Greater Things Shall Ye Do

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VineyardsOfEngedi

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And again everyone with wonderful replies that it is necessary to be vigilant to weed out error. :confused:
 
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And this is what I meant, this is not happening as far as I know. So what is greater than all of that?

Its the number that is greater .There is no greater miracle than salvation.

Raising the dead is a work of the gospelthe power of God. We can plant the incorruptible seed by which all new creatures are born after and water that seed with the doctrines of God that fall from above like rain . But God alone can cause the growth if any .

All of the underlined metaphors used in that parable signify the gospel

Luke 7:22Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

They are the kind of unseen to the eye signs (Mark 14) that follow after hearing the gospel the power that works in us to both will and do His good pleasure. He informs to believe without murmuring.

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

New tongues, The gospel. . . the tongue of God, prophecy.
 

Adstar

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Think inside the box, the context is while on earth, for Jesus says that he is going to the Father, and that he will send the Holy Spirit. These are not chronological facts that pertain to the afterlife. 'Going to the Father' means that he is not with us anymore, and 'sending the spirit and its manifestations' are gifts that are not necessary once in heaven (1 Cor 13:9).
Matthew 28: KJV
18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. {19} ¶ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: {20} Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

Matthew 18: KJV
19 "Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. {20} For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
 

DB7

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Matthew 28: KJV
18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. {19} ¶ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: {20} Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

Matthew 18: KJV
19 "Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. {20} For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
The context is '...because I am going to the Father...' , meaning that he will not be on earth to perform miracles any more, as we understand miracles to be, physical or natural phenomena. This is the immediate context. I cannot understand this passage to mean that they will perform greater than him in the afterlife. For, obviously they won't outdo him while in heaven, for on what grounds can they, he is King of Kings in heaven,
and secondly, miracles aren't even required in heaven.
Words can't express, Adstar, how far out you are on this! You're wrong both in chronology and administration.