Great End-Time Revival?

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ResidentAlien

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You do not believe what I say and I do not believe what you say. In the future I will remember not to reply to your post. It would only be a trap set. I'll be praying for you.
I don't lay traps; I talk straight. If you can't handle that then yeah, you should probably just put me on ignore.
 

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Wether or not there will be a revival will be proven in time. Jesus said, " My sheep know my voice and another they will not follow." If you are his sheep then you have heard his voice. If you hear his voice then you are receiving revelation.
I hear his voice every morning as I read and study his word.
 
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If God OUTPOURS His Spirit in the Last Days, how do we imagine the outpouring would take place, if not in congregations of like minded Believers?

Even if a Movement began in a tent or on the street, an outpouring would become a gathering.

Humans would then move that gathering to Churches and big stadiums.

Eventually you would have the settings for a Revival.
 
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To what outpouring do you refer? Scripture reference please.
Joel Chapter 2:

In my first attachment you will see Joel Prophesied concerning the Last Days Outpouring.

Many calls it Acts 2, and it is

But Attachment 3 includes Verses that immediately FOLLOW Joel 2 and you will discover Joel is speaking right before the SECOND COMING of the Messiah.
 

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Joel Chapter 2:

In my first attachment you will see Joel Prophesied concerning the Last Days Outpouring.

Many calls it Acts 2, and it is

But Attachment 3 includes Verses that immediately FOLLOW Joel 2 and you will discover Joel is speaking right before the SECOND COMING of the Messiah.
Didn't Peter say that that passage was fulfilled the day of Pentecost?
 

ResidentAlien

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The prophecy has two parts: 1) Pouring out of His Spirit on all flesh. Peter said in Acts 2 that this part was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost; 2) The remaining verses (Joel 2:30-32) are the second part which will be fulfilled in the future. They don't say anything about another future outpouring.

It's a distortion of scripture to use Joel 2 or Acts 2 to say there will be a future great outpouring. What we do know will be poured out is strong delusion.
 
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Didn't Peter say that that passage was fulfilled the day of Pentecost?
I mentioned there's a reference to it in Acts.

But when you read Joel he's making a reference before the Second Coming.

Yes, 2k years before the Second Coming still works but Joel says the Jews will be Saved. That's Last Days.
 
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The prophecy has two parts: 1) Pouring out of His Spirit on all flesh. Peter said in Acts 2 that this part was fulfilled on the day of Pentecost; 2) The remaining verses (Joel 2:30-32) are the second part which will be fulfilled in the future. They don't say anything about another future outpouring.

It's a distortion of scripture to use Joel 2 or Acts 2 to say there will be a future great outpouring. What we do know will be poured out is strong delusion.
Not when you read and Joel points to the fact JEWS will call out to the LORD or Jesus... that has never happened and is Future Event.
 

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Not when you read and Joel points to the fact JEWS will call out to the LORD or Jesus... that has never happened and is Future Event.
If your assumption is that everything before Joel 2:28 is yet future then I can see your point; but I don't see it that way. First of all, if that's the case then Peter's assertion that the day of Pentecost fulfilled Joel 2:28-29 doesn't make any sense. Second, Joel 2 doesn't say anything about the Jews calling on Jesus.
 
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If your assumption is that everything before Joel 2:28 is yet future then I can see your point; but I don't see it that way. First of all, if that's the case then Peter's assertion that the day of Pentecost fulfilled Joel 2:28-29 doesn't make any sense. Second, Joel 2 doesn't say anything about the Jews calling on Jesus.
Verse 32:

Everyone that calls on NAME of the Lord will be Saved.

What's going on here where before the Second Coming that's 2,000 years plus to come [after Book of Acts] whatever is happening in Verses 31 to finish?

What we do understand in those Verses is there's enough people existing before the actual Second Coming calling out to the NAME of the Lord and being Saved.

That is some kind of possible Event or Revival that leads to people calling out to the Lord and being Saved before the Second Coming takes place.
 

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cv5

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If your assumption is that everything before Joel 2:28 is yet future then I can see your point; but I don't see it that way. First of all, if that's the case then Peter's assertion that the day of Pentecost fulfilled Joel 2:28-29 doesn't make any sense. Second, Joel 2 doesn't say anything about the Jews calling on Jesus.
No, you are mistaken. Peter's recital of Joel 2:28-32 is only PARTIALLY fulfilled. This was intentional of course.

Joel 2:28 & 29 WERE being fulfilled then and there, yes. Because these are and were then the "LAST DAYS".

But 30-32 have yet to occur. Obviously. These doings are to happen as prophesied in Revelation chapters 6 thru 19 et al.

Another thought....both here AND in Acts 15, there embedded in the recitation of OT prophecies is the consolation to the hearers of the SURETY of the reconstitution of the Nation Israel in the promised Kingdom.

Joe 2:30
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joe 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Joe 2:32
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

The a-mills, post-mills and historists mess up badly with this verse. Because they don't "get it" for lack of a better term.
 

cv5

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It's a distortion of scripture to use Joel 2 or Acts 2 to say there will be a future great outpouring. What we do know will be poured out is strong delusion.
Yes, this "outpouring" per se definitely ceases when the Church age ("last days") have terminated (by the rapture) no doubt about that.
 

cv5

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No, you are mistaken. Peter's recital of Joel 2:28-32 is only PARTIALLY fulfilled. This was intentional of course.

Joel 2:28 & 29 WERE being fulfilled then and there, yes. Because these are and were then the "LAST DAYS".

But 30-32 have yet to occur. Obviously. These doings are to happen as prophesied in Revelation chapters 6 thru 19 et al.

Another thought....both here AND in Acts 15, there embedded in the recitation of OT prophecies is the consolation to the hearers of the SURETY of the reconstitution of the Nation Israel in the promised Kingdom.

Joe 2:30
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joe 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Joe 2:32
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

The a-mills, post-mills and historists mess up badly with this verse. Because they don't "get it" for lack of a better term.
Definitely future, in the first part of the 70th week tribulation, 6th seal opened.

Rev 6:12
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Joe 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
 
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My advice would be to run fast and far from all these personal revelations. I would add that people should stop cherry picking verses to align with what they believe will happen in the future and especially if they think God has spoken privately to them in a way that suggests that meeting supersedes what is actually written in the word.

Actual time spent with God and study is so boring compared to all these revelations and spiritual sensations.

You can warn people till your throat runs dry and they will not listen. It seems they are programmed not to listen.

God is merciful but blindness is not a blessing by any means.
 

cv5

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Okay, if you say so I must be then.
Well.....unless I misunderstood your post. I thought you were saying that Acts 2/Joel 2 was completely resolved back then.
If I am in error as to your opinion on that let me know.