GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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Sure we can meet any time and worship God any time purely for our own benefit ! but that is not the same as 'assembling before Him on His Holy day....to receive instruction from His own Lips...you know...it's like 'intimate teaching by which He will 'know you !
There are plenty/many who say 'Lord, Lord....but He will tell them He does not know them. Can you see the difference ? Sunday is a BAD habit derived from a false sunday resurrection imported from Rome.
There are plenty/many who say 'Lord, Lord....but He will tell them He does not know them. Can you see the difference ? Sunday is a BAD habit derived from a false sunday resurrection imported from Rome.
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Why Sunday:
1. Christ was ressurrected on Sunday. (J 20:1)
2. After the ressurrection, He appeared to apostles on Sunday. (J 20:19)
3. The second appearance to apostles was again on Sunday (J 20:26)
4. The descent of the Holy Spirit was on Sunday (Lv 23:16)
5. First public preaching was on Sunday (Acts 2:41)
6. First baptism was on Sunday (Acts 2:41)
7. The only mention about the Lord's Supper practice is on Sunday (Acts 20:7)
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Sunday is so connected to important Christian events, that it would be silly if Church chose another day. But yes, it is not a command, you can meet on Saturday, if you wish.
1. Christ was ressurrected on Sunday. (J 20:1)
2. After the ressurrection, He appeared to apostles on Sunday. (J 20:19)
3. The second appearance to apostles was again on Sunday (J 20:26)
4. The descent of the Holy Spirit was on Sunday (Lv 23:16)
5. First public preaching was on Sunday (Acts 2:41)
6. First baptism was on Sunday (Acts 2:41)
7. The only mention about the Lord's Supper practice is on Sunday (Acts 20:7)
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Sunday is so connected to important Christian events, that it would be silly if Church chose another day. But yes, it is not a command, you can meet on Saturday, if you wish.
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Hi LM1,
HAPPY Sabbath to you (my time now is around 7:24 in the evening). All worship by FAITH in God's Word and Follow Him in FAITH who LOVES ALL. 99% of places around the world Keep His Sabbath RESTING in HIS LOVE through Faith from sunset to sunset according to the commandment because we are NOW free to LOVE and the Sabbath is now OUR DELIGHT in MEETING with the one who calls us in LOVE to be FAITHFUL. The BELIEVERS in the other 1% of places that have no sunset follow the international dateline and adjust to timezone's that are close to their locality. So all can follow him who loves us by faith.
Happy Sabbath from the FUTURE
HAPPY Sabbath to you (my time now is around 7:24 in the evening). All worship by FAITH in God's Word and Follow Him in FAITH who LOVES ALL. 99% of places around the world Keep His Sabbath RESTING in HIS LOVE through Faith from sunset to sunset according to the commandment because we are NOW free to LOVE and the Sabbath is now OUR DELIGHT in MEETING with the one who calls us in LOVE to be FAITHFUL. The BELIEVERS in the other 1% of places that have no sunset follow the international dateline and adjust to timezone's that are close to their locality. So all can follow him who loves us by faith.
Happy Sabbath from the FUTURE
God said remember the seventh day (which is Saturday), and the reason is because God said so, and God sanctified that day.
We can make many excuses to disobey. If God told you to not eat from a specific tree or you will die, and you said, all the trees are good for food and it doesn't matter which tree we eat from, and eat from the one we were told not to, would that be sin? We can worship God all the time, every day of the week but we should make the Sabbath holy and sanctified.
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.
For this reason (verse 11) we should keep and worship God on the Sabbath (Because God created us and the world in six days), and that reason did not change at the cross, and today God should is still to be worshiped as creator.
We can make many excuses to disobey. If God told you to not eat from a specific tree or you will die, and you said, all the trees are good for food and it doesn't matter which tree we eat from, and eat from the one we were told not to, would that be sin? We can worship God all the time, every day of the week but we should make the Sabbath holy and sanctified.
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.
For this reason (verse 11) we should keep and worship God on the Sabbath (Because God created us and the world in six days), and that reason did not change at the cross, and today God should is still to be worshiped as creator.
1. For non-english speaking countries (like mine), Sunday is the 7th day. Week starts with Monday.
2. Not everything God ever said is for us today. We have New Covenant and Old Covenant. We have a covenant with physical Israel and a covenant with the spiritual Israel. We must properly divide Scriptures.
2. Not everything God ever said is for us today. We have New Covenant and Old Covenant. We have a covenant with physical Israel and a covenant with the spiritual Israel. We must properly divide Scriptures.
The Sabbath was given in Eden before sin even entered. The reason to keep the Sabbath was to remember the Lord as our creator and as a sign that he is our God. Those reasons are not exclusive to Israel, and Jesus did not say to stop keeping the Sabbath when He died. Knowing which day and when the Sabbath starts and ends is not difficult if you make an effort.
Are you saying it was Moses's law? It was Gods Law. And does that mean i can kill and steal now because i'm not a Jew.?
Jas 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
Jas 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
These are laws from the 10 commandments? ??
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. I know that i'm guilty when it comes to obeying the law and that's why i need the grace of Jesus to cover my guilt. but i do not think i should use that grace as an excuse to continue in sin.
Jas 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
Jas 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
These are laws from the 10 commandments? ??
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. I know that i'm guilty when it comes to obeying the law and that's why i need the grace of Jesus to cover my guilt. but i do not think i should use that grace as an excuse to continue in sin.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 2:1-3, “Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their array. And in the seventh day the Mighty One completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And the Mighty One blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which the Mighty One in creating had made.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiyl 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am YHWH Who sanctifies them."[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*“sign” is word #226, Hebrew Dictionary,Strong's Exhaustive Concordance,[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:20, “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on the Sabbath Day.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiyl 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am YHWH Who sanctifies them."[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]*“sign” is word #226, Hebrew Dictionary,Strong's Exhaustive Concordance,[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 12:12, "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:20, “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on the Sabbath Day.”[/FONT]
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trofimus,
re: "Why Sunday: Christ was ressurrected on Sunday. (J 20:1)"
I don't see where the verse says that. What do you have in mind?
re: "Why Sunday: The second appearance to apostles was again on Sunday (J 20:26)"
Actually, "after eight days" would be no sooner than the 2nd day of the week.
re: "Why Sunday: First public preaching was on Sunday (Acts 2:41)"
The gathering was in observance of Pentecost, not because it was a first day of the week. And there is even disagreement as to whether or not Pentecost is always on the first day of the week.
re: "Why Sunday: First baptism was on Sunday (Acts 2:41)"
See above. And anyway, the first baptisms mentioned in scripture were by John the Baptist and no specific days were stated.
re: "Why Sunday: The only mention about the Lord's Supper practice is on Sunday (Acts 20:7)"
I don't see where the Lord's supper is mentioned. What do you have in mind?
re: "Why Sunday: Christ was ressurrected on Sunday. (J 20:1)"
I don't see where the verse says that. What do you have in mind?
re: "Why Sunday: The second appearance to apostles was again on Sunday (J 20:26)"
Actually, "after eight days" would be no sooner than the 2nd day of the week.
re: "Why Sunday: First public preaching was on Sunday (Acts 2:41)"
The gathering was in observance of Pentecost, not because it was a first day of the week. And there is even disagreement as to whether or not Pentecost is always on the first day of the week.
re: "Why Sunday: First baptism was on Sunday (Acts 2:41)"
See above. And anyway, the first baptisms mentioned in scripture were by John the Baptist and no specific days were stated.
re: "Why Sunday: The only mention about the Lord's Supper practice is on Sunday (Acts 20:7)"
I don't see where the Lord's supper is mentioned. What do you have in mind?
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 2:1-3, “Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their array. And in the seventh day the Mighty One completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And the Mighty One blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which the Mighty One in creating had made.”[/FONT]
Numbers 15:15-16, “One law is for you of the assembly and for the stranger who sojourns with you – a law forever throughout your generations. As you are, so is the stranger before יהוה. One Torah and one right-ruling is for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you.”
Exodus 12:47-49, “All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the Passover to יהוה, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is nativeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourns among you.”
Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what YHWH says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing any evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to YHWH, speak, saying; YHWH has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what YHWH says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which eplease Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YHWH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to YHWH, to serve Him, and to love the Name of YHWH, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."
Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"
Exodus 12:47-49, “All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the Passover to יהוה, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is nativeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourns among you.”
Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what YHWH says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing any evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to YHWH, speak, saying; YHWH has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what YHWH says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which eplease Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YHWH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to YHWH, to serve Him, and to love the Name of YHWH, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."
Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against YHWH, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away, the saints of YHWH, and think to change times and Laws…"