God called me a goat

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Ok don't let it concern you, post 73
 

blue_ladybug

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Let's stop derailing this thread. It's about Devin, not Blain..

Anyhoo, Devin, clouds change form all the time. I don't think it had anything to do with you seeing a goat shaped cloud, but maybe more the song you were listening to. Sounds like it convicted you in some way? :)
 

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With all the flamboient ways you say you hear God, and then you write this hmmm yea I wonder now...
I was reading through all the pages and wanted to clear the air here personally. Perhaps I misspoke in saying he doesn't speak to us through clouds however the issue with that is that personal interpretation is too broad. This person came to us because he thought God was calling him a goat from the shape of a cloud and felt like God was upset with him at that moment I was not concerned with arguing whether or not God speaks with clouds my concern to was to help to heal a wounded soul so I may have disregarded the fact God could do that like in lady blue's case with her cat so I do apologize for that.

But the fact is there is no one way God can speak to us he can and will use anything to speak to and teach his children but as in this such case we can not know how to really hear his voice and can interpret it as something else entirely. As far as being flamboyant you can think that of me if you wish I honestly have no need to defend myself otherwise
 
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I was reading through all the pages and wanted to clear the air here personally. Perhaps I misspoke in saying he doesn't speak to us through clouds however the issue with that is that personal interpretation is too broad. This person came to us because he thought God was calling him a goat from the shape of a cloud and felt like God was upset with him at that moment I was not concerned with arguing whether or not God speaks with clouds my concern to was to help to heal a wounded soul so I may have disregarded the fact God could do that like in lady blue's case with her cat so I do apologize for that.

But the fact is there is no one way God can speak to us he can and will use anything to speak to and teach his children but as in this such case we can not know how to really hear his voice and can interpret it as something else entirely. As far as being flamboyant you can think that of me if you wish I honestly have no need to defend myself otherwise
Find All In The Heart...

Would it hurt if I said you don't know how to hear God yet... And you say there is no way God can speak to people hmmm...
 
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I was driving home today and I asked God to speak to me. I was listening to MercyMe and crying my eyes out. Then I looked up at the sun and saw a cloud. I couldn’t tell if it was a sheep or goat, but it resembled more of a goat. I researched this and saw what goat means in the Bible. I’m so upset. What am I doing wrong? How can I show God that I do love him and that I want to live my life for him?
Now you probably have heard someone call someone a goat, like a boxer, which stands for greatest of all time, so if that is the case you are in good shape.

But whether you think you see a sheep or a goat as the shape of a cloud does not mean anything, but that is the shape of the cloud, and what about other people that see it and they think it looks like a goat, are they a goat too.

Will they be cursed along with you by the goat shaped cloud because they gazed upon it, when it was only meant for you. Now because you are a goat other people have to suffer that looked upon the cloud in the shape of a goat, putting a Medusa like effect on them but in the way of a stony heart.

Well thanks a lot as I speak for the people that were cursed by the goat cloud.

Of course I am kidding and it does not mean anything, and some people look for signs too much, or make something out of something that does not mean anything.

There is this one man William Tapley that calls himself the third eagle, angel, of the apocalypse, and co-prophet of the end time, that has some weird beliefs about what he encounters, and he could see a fish jump up out of the water, and it means something to him, and he will say sports games, the scores, is a prophesy of God, among more weird interpretations, but of course him saying he is the third eagle, angel, of the apocalypse as described in Revelation, and co-prophet of the end time says it all concerning this man's mental state.

Plus you cannot go off of one isolated incident anyway, which God said, out of the mouth of two or three witnesses let everything be established.

So if you seen the cloud in the shape of a goat, and then saw a goat by the wayside, and then someone was riding with you and said something that got your goat, now maybe it is established you are surely a goat.

But I kid again.
 
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The bible is clear....

a. God speaks in a still, small voice
b. God speaks through conviction
c. God speaks through creation-->day unto day and night unto night
d. God speaks through the invisible-->namely his power and God head
e. God speaks to us through His SON dia the WORD
f. God speaks to us through his servants at times (I.E>a preacher, pastor, brother or sister in Christ ministering the word)

It is foolish to spiritualize everything around us and assume that God is speaking to us.....and exactly why our spirit needs to be fine tuned by the word of God..............!
No one is saying God does not speak in the ways you mention too. And no one said everything which happens is from God. As for spiritualizing everything , that statement is a broad brush stroke that can not possibly apply to everything. I could say of your statement STOP MAKING EVERYTHING PHYSICAL AND UNIMPORTANT. The point: we are called to get to the bottom of - WAS DEVIN RECEIVING A MESSAGE FROM GOD OR satan.Obviously Devin felt that God messaged him. That would require knowing Devin's spiritual state which his physical behavior affects. I am new here maybe you all know Devin I do not.

With that said God gives signs in other manners besides what you state.
Isaiah 7:14
14Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and she will call Him Immanuel
Luke 21:25
25There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among the nations, bewildered by the roaring of the sea and the surging of the waves.
Acts 2:19
…18Even on My servants, both men and women, I will pour out My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and clouds of smoke. 20The sun will be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.…

Now, I never said the sign given this person was from God nor did I say it was not, all I am saying is, God does use His creation to give signs that is all. I thought you were quick to judgement that, this person was seeking a sign. You did post what you did because you believe Devin was exactly as you quoted Christ as saying, you know that is true. Then precede to act like I said something untrue concerning what you plainly said. It is disingenuous to say God speaks only in the way you listed above. What is true is throughout scripture He speaks quietly when need be and sometimes He thunders. He gives physical signs by manipulating His creation- Moses staff turns to a snake to devour Pharaoh's. hail which burned like fire , Pillars of fire , burning bush but not devoured, parting of seas, droughts, locust, signs in the sun moon and stars, rainbows ex....! He too gives personal revelation and speaks to us individually in a manner in which we understand, and that is NOT always through a Pastor, shepherd , priest ex....

Each person can have a personal relationship with Him .

Mourning Turned to Joy Jeremiah 31:33-35
…33“But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD. I will put My law in their minds and inscribe it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people. 34No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity and remember their sins no more.” 35Thus says the LORD, who gives the sun for light by day and orders the moon and stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar—the LORD of Hosts is His name:…

I will end this conversation with you, because you are not honest about what you obviously put in writing- you think you are fooling someone, including God, because you will not own what you obviously said not only implied. Moving on- God Bless!
 
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No one is saying God does not speak in the ways you mention too. And no one said everything which happens is from God. As for spiritualizing everything , that statement is a broad brush stroke that can not possibly apply to everything. I could say of your statement STOP MAKING EVERYTHING PHYSICAL AND UNIMPORTANT. The point: we are called to get to the bottom of - WAS DEVIN RECEIVING A MESSAGE FROM GOD OR satan.Obviously Devin felt that God messaged him. That would require knowing Devin's spiritual state which his physical behavior affects. I am new here maybe you all know Devin I do not.

With that said God gives signs in other manners besides what you state.
Isaiah 7:14
14Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and she will call Him Immanuel
Luke 21:25
25There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among the nations, bewildered by the roaring of the sea and the surging of the waves.
Acts 2:19
…18Even on My servants, both men and women, I will pour out My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and clouds of smoke. 20The sun will be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.…

Now, I never said the sign given this person was from God nor did I say it was not, all I am saying is, God does use His creation to give signs that is all. I thought you were quick to judgement that, this person was seeking a sign. You did post what you did because you believe Devin was exactly as you quoted Christ as saying, you know that is true. Then precede to act like I said something untrue concerning what you plainly said. It is disingenuous to say God speaks only in the way you listed above. What is true is throughout scripture He speaks quietly when need be and sometimes He thunders. He gives physical signs by manipulating His creation- Moses staff turns to a snake to devour Pharaoh's. hail which burned like fire , Pillars of fire , burning bush but devoured, parting of seas, droughts, locust, signs in the sun moon and stars, rainbows ex....! He too gives personal revelation and speaks to us individually in a manner in which we understand, and that is NOT always through a Pastor, shepherd , priest ex....

Each person can have a personal relationship with Him .

Mourning Turned to Joy Jeremiah 31:33-35
…33“But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD. I will put My law in their minds and inscribe it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people. 34No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity and remember their sins no more.” 35Thus says the LORD, who gives the sun for light by day and orders the moon and stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar—the LORD of Hosts is His name:…

I will end this conversation with you, because you are not honest about what you obviously put in writing- you think you are fooling someone, including God, because you will not own what you obviously said not only implied. Moving on- God Bless!


Neither God nor Satan...it was a cloud......end of story!

and a couple of points....you are new here...show some respect and your last line was a joke...you accuse me of being dishonest, trying to fool God and then say God bless....

This is the exact reason Christianity is a joke in the world ^^^^^^^^^^^^^that type of hypocrisy
 
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Let's stop derailing this thread. It's about Devin, not Blain..

Anyhoo, Devin, clouds change form all the time. I don't think it had anything to do with you seeing a goat shaped cloud, but maybe more the song you were listening to. Sounds like it convicted you in some way? :)
Hmm and it's not about a donkey but a goat so much for that, funny was it. just more cliche statements. Surely your not going to say that about the donkey you liked that didnt you.
 

Shamah

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Neither God nor Satan...it was a cloud......end of story!

and a couple of points....you are new here...show some respect and your last line was a joke...you accuse me of being dishonest, trying to fool God and then say God bless....

This is the exact reason Christianity is a joke in the world ^^^^^^^^^^^^^that type of hypocrisy
you don;t know if it was a sign/message from the Most High or not, it's not even your place to say unless the Most High reveals it to you, then He would have to say to reveal it to that person.
 
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you don;t know if it was a sign/message from the Most High or not, it's not even your place to say unless the Most High reveals it to you, then He would have to say to reveal it to that person.
well....I will say it again....It was a cloud....end of story...if It had been from GOD we would not be xx pages in wondering if it was from GOD......
 
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Neither God nor Satan...it was a cloud......end of story!
It was just a cloud, but it was not just that to Devin. It would be just a cloud if Devin was just driving not thinking about anything and saw a cloud which looked like a goat or sheep. So the cloud in and of itself is not really the source of this conversation. Only Devon and God and yes maybe satan knows what he was upset and crying about. So for us a cloud is just a cloud until it is meant to mean more!






A cloud is just a cloud until it represents something else. I would say state of mind and timing would determine that. If you are thinking about God or heaven and hell and you look up not expecting something but get something, coincidence is not always the answer, sometimes it is Providence. I am not dismissing your opinion but I am saying you may not be right.
 
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It was just a cloud, but it was not just that to Devin. It would be just a cloud if Devin was just driving not thinking about anything and saw a cloud which looked like a goat or sheep. So the cloud in and of itself is not really the source of this conversation. Only Devon and God and yes maybe satan knows what he was upset and crying about. So for us a cloud is just a cloud until it is meant to mean more!






A cloud is just a cloud until it represents something else. I would say state of mind and timing would determine that. If you are thinking about God or heaven and hell and you look up not expecting something but get something, coincidence is not always the answer, sometimes it is Providence. I am not dismissing your opinion but I am saying you may not be right.
And I am saying that God does not deal in unknowns....if it was God it would be obvious.....
 
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And I am saying that God does not deal in unknowns....if it was God it would be obvious.....
No God does not deal in unknowns but man whom God chooses to reveal certain things to or not ,does deal in unknowns. We are called to seek "Seek and you shall find , knock and the door will be opened". If all was known to us as to God we would not be called to seek and that is what Devin seems to be doing as well as others here who may not be all knowing as you. Maybe we missed the true Messiah? NOT! You are in for a rude awakening sleeping as you are on the spiritual impact God and yes satan can have on this earth by manipulating the physical. STILL WONDERING WHAT DEVIN WAS UPSET ABOUT????????
 

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Hmm and it's not about a donkey but a goat so much for that, funny was it. just more cliche statements. Surely your not going to say that about the donkey you liked that didnt you.

I never said that it was about a donkey. I posted that picture because Jewel jokingly said she wanted to see a talking donkey. What is your problem?? Devin saw a goat shaped cloud, so what? It was a cloud, nothing more. And he shouldn't attribute more to it than that.