Global warming theory is "false science"

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bojack

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I haven't really pondered it much but in glancing at things online it seems to me to be from an era when men were transitioning from thinking the earth was flat and not yet grasping the earth as a globe with a north and south pole. To me,and I mean a view point of sailing a vessel along the coast, his map would be only an general depiction. So six feet knots on a rope or you would understand why so many vessels ran aground or sank during those years of exploration.

To me though my take of the map is that it was intended to denote the seas and their depths more accurately than the land masses to so that the shorelines could found. If you have never sailed across a body of water you may not see what I'm trying to describe so I'll explain. It's like the old saying a circle with a dot in it, most people look at it when ask what they see and point straight to the dot.

Your asking me about Piri Reis map of Antartica https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map but that means that you look at the map and your focus is on the land but I shake my head because it isn't a map of the land at all it is a map of the ocean and waters between the continents. This is a map drawn Ottoman Admiral (a sailor) and so if you erase the things that you have read that suggest it is a map of the land and look at it again you will clearly see it is not intended to accurately depict the inwards of the land masses but instead the water. In short it is a map of the Atlantic,Caribbean ect. and not of what many are suggested to think it is.
I went back and see it now .. Are their plants and animals found under the ice or is that a hoax
 

iamsoandso

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I went back and see it now ..

Yep there's four compass roses but the one up in the northern Atlantic(east coast US) and the one in the far south Atlantic(above Antarctica) he left small. The two compass roses in the middle (one in the Caribbean and out from Suriname,Brazil ect.) are both larger and when I look at the coast across from them his map is in more detail than the top and bottom of the map.

So his interest seems to be first in that it is a "nautical map" drawn by an Admiral/sailor. It seems also to me that he spent most of his time sailing from somewhere around present day Columbia,Venezuela and down to about the Parana river between Uruguay and Argentina.

Why I say that is that on his map it depicts the rivers as they go inland so they probably anchored and took boats up the rivers mapping them also but there are no rivers above that portion or below. He also spent a lot of time trying to document shipwrecks,islands reefs ect. but other than that all of the details of the inward land masses are left at a minimum(was not his interest).
 

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Yep there's four compass roses but the one up in the northern Atlantic(east coast US) and the one in the far south Atlantic(above Antarctica) he left small. The two compass roses in the middle (one in the Caribbean and out from Suriname,Brazil ect.) are both larger and when I look at the coast across from them his map is in more detail than the top and bottom of the map.

So his interest seems to be first in that it is a "nautical map" drawn by an Admiral/sailor. It seems also to me that he spent most of his time sailing from somewhere around present day Columbia,Venezuela and down to about the Parana river between Uruguay and Argentina.

Why I say that is that on his map it depicts the rivers as they go inland so they probably anchored and took boats up the rivers mapping them also but there are no rivers above that portion or below. He also spent a lot of time trying to document shipwrecks,islands reefs ect. but other than that all of the details of the inward land masses are left at a minimum(was not his interest).
Interesting stuff for sure, and I've seen some stuff saying the Sahara is re-greening
 

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Interesting stuff for sure, and I've seen some stuff saying the Sahara is re-greening

Yep I'm an old man that grew up by the sea. My father had shrimp boats in the old days but I loved the peace of sailing so I've looked at a nautical chart or two. Your lucky I'm old or I might try and talk you into going down to Seawolf park and looking over the Cavalla I bet I could fire them 16-248's up. If we could talk them into refitting the batteries and ex-ray the hull we'd be good to go.

If we took and pinged the bottom out to about seventy feet and set it down in the soft mud and sat and listened and it was okay then we could go out a little more until we got to three hundred feet. At Sixty-seventy feet if it flooded we could open it up and swim out. If it all went well we could refit them old torpedoes to run torpedo juice and then strain the pink lady out with bread but that's one of the most closely guarded military secrets of all about the gilly, and just the right amount of pineapple juice some people go blind with the other types.
 

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Yep I'm an old man that grew up by the sea. My father had shrimp boats in the old days but I loved the peace of sailing so I've looked at a nautical chart or two. Your lucky I'm old or I might try and talk you into going down to Seawolf park and looking over the Cavalla I bet I could fire them 16-248's up. If we could talk them into refitting the batteries and ex-ray the hull we'd be good to go.

If we took and pinged the bottom out to about seventy feet and set it down in the soft mud and sat and listened and it was okay then we could go out a little more until we got to three hundred feet. At Sixty-seventy feet if it flooded we could open it up and swim out. If it all went well we could refit them old torpedoes to run torpedo juice and then strain the pink lady out with bread but that's one of the most closely guarded military secrets of all about the gilly, and just the right amount of pineapple juice some people go blind with the other types.
Ha, small world Bro.. I worked on a 50' shrimp boat one season 1983 out of Carolina Beach off the Cape Fear inlet and loved it.. We caught a couple cannon balls and a couple small missiles from the Civil war days when we shrimped off fort fisher ..We even got caught on and tore an old windlass off a shipwreck one day and offered it to the city .. We usually hauled back 3 times sometimes 4 if the try nets were clean .. I loved it, lots of stories like you I'm sure . We dumped our tail bags on a big table and those blue crabs would go to the corners and pinch me every day when I put my hand down to rest my back from culling, those are some ornery critters, lol ..Fort Fisher protected the blockade runners supplying Wilmington and the photo shows how well they were ''dug in'' on their man made high ground.. I think it was the last confederate port to fall .. On another note there was a lot of letters from the soldiers displayed in the museum and I was surprised at the penmanship and vocabulary level .. Edward Teach was also common in the area back in the day
 

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Yep nothing like adjusting the tickler chain on a net or tying a sheet bend. callinectes sapidus is the best flavor It's my favorite.
 

bojack

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Yep nothing like adjusting the tickler chain on a net or tying a sheet bend. callinectes sapidus is the best flavor It's my favorite.
Ha, our tickler was perfect then close to the end of the season a line broke and we dropped our right boom and damaged it, when we changed out to the new booms capt'n butch changed to new nets but we never got the doors right like before and probably the tickler because we probably fell 10-20% short after that maybe more, we were still working out the adjustment when the hurricane come .. . But before that we were tops of all of the rest , we were killing it .. One peculiar thing one day, a porpoise untied the tail bag knot and lost the whole bag, I got chewed out then the captain tied the next one and was watching and saw the porpoise untie it .. After that we doubled the knot and no more trouble .. I called it a slip knot .. lol .. I learned a few basic knots but I was no sailor .. Actually I used the truckers knot the most for tying down bottles and loads and other knots I can't remember all the names , clove hitch? isn't that the one we docked the boat with I could almost throw that one on, bowline, sheep shank? loggers half hitch .. It's impressive to see some one who knows his knots ..
 

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correction 4 doors and two tailbags two ticklers .. Butch said there are shrimp boats with 4 bags but I don't remember noticing how they were rigged, didn't care .. We went out on high tide every day and come back on high tide or reasonably close . We stayed close to shore , but I remember getting to the dock and Butch would have the coolers ready with ice .. Our goal was 300 lbs a day but the less productive days 100 and the most was about 800 lbs ..We'd take off and once we got the nets in the water in the bunk and lay there and just rock back and forth like a baby until he woke me up to check the try net and I hated when that thing was full of trash but when it was just shrimp I could get back in the bunk and sleep like a baby for a couple hrs .. And butch cooked dinner every day and he could cook pretty good .. He clammed in the off season like most the other guys