Ever wonder Why?….

Seeker47 · Jun 15, 2023

Deut:29:29 (KJV)

The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

Lifted_by_the_word · Jun 15, 2023

Lafftur said:

There's more Scripture as well.

Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

The heavens declaring the glory of God means they're testifying the glory of God.They testify of the Water, and the Blood like we do.
The firmament sheweth his handywork is the Ozone layer.The firmament is in the image of the curtain veil,which is in the image of the water and the blood.
The heavens declare that Jesus sits on the mercy seat and that he is God in the flesh.
The Ozone covers us from the celestial elements and preserves/ brings life on Earth, like the water, and blood covering us does
spiritually.

Psalm 19:2-5
Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

Pilgrimshope · Jun 15, 2023

Lafftur said:

Jesus had to become a man and die because what God says is irrevocable and creates what he says inevitably must be fulfilled so the issue was started here and must be true and come to pass

“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

From this point on now if Adam eats the fruit he will certainly die.

Satan then used this commandment against man deceiving then into breaking it and cursing themselves with death , from the word of God intended to keep them safe from death

“For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭7:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Paul is talking about human kind here and where it went wrong back in Eden when the commandment came he’s referencing Adam and all of adams offspring still in his body when he was cursed to death

from Adam and Eve we inherited sin and then death

“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; ( don’t eat the fruit you’ll die ) and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

because of the very first commandment and mans breaking it death was created upon man by man and God can’t lie therefore he can’t just say “ never mind “

So now we’re in this boat the wages of sin is death to every man who sins

“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and add this to that

“for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23‬ ‭KJV

“God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; There is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭53:2-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

So you have this situation God has always warned man of sin and death . He’s told us after we’ve sinned I’ll forgive you but if you don’t stop sinning you will die for sure . There need to be one man who is worthy because again God doesn’t revoke his gifts

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: But the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

man lost creation to sin and death Jesus became a man in order to redeem creation from sin and death to Gods Will and design and Jesus died for this purpose and cause remember we’ve seen that all who sin must die and we’ve sin that all mankind has sinned so then

“But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:9-11, 14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

he died to fulfill his word about man dying for sin that’s why when we get baptized it tells us we died with him for our sins Gods word is fulfilled th at sinners must die through Christs death

Grace911 · Jun 15, 2023

Lafftur said:

There is the law of Divorce and Remarriage found in Deuteronomy 24:1-4. Also spoken of in Jeremiah 3 and Paul teaches in Romans 7:1-4 The entire book of Hosea is THE PLAN in allegory. The whole Bible OT and NT is all about this Divorce and Remarriage Law. The LORD/YHWH knew always what THE PLAN would be. He started with calling out Abram who became Abraham and his wife Sarah. They had a son name Isaac whose wife was Rachel, and they had the twins Esau and Jacob.

Jacob had 12 sons and together they made ONE NATION, until after King Solomon's death, they separated and became TWO NATIONS, the House of Israel and the House of Judah.

THE PLAN was for the children of Israel to be a LIGHT to the other NATIONS and make the WHOLE WORLD to learn and understand the LORD/YHWH's ways.

The LORD/YHWH DIVORCED the adulterous/idolatry House of Israel/Ephraim/Joseph/lost ten tribes.

The LORD/YHWH gave them 390 years to change their ways. But they did not change, was taken into Assyrian captivity, and from there began to scatter themselves all around the whole world. In the book of Numbers we see that the LORD/YHWH increased their punishment from 390 years to 7 times more for their sin. The math is fairly easy to understand. 390 x 7 = 2730 years. Historically they were fully enslaved by Assyria in 721/720 BC. Some resources state 718 BC. So the Northern Kingdom was scattered, they forgot YHWH as their God, they forgot His Commandments and Laws, and adopted pagan practices mixed into other Nations/Gentiles ways. The LORD/YHWH calls this ADULTERY.

Now time wise, 2730 years MINUS 721/720 BC = 2008/2009 CE. At that time, there was an EXPLOSION of believers who became TORAH OBSERVANT. This was the work of the Holy Spirit in each of their lives. The punishment time was over and their ability to know TRUTH was opened to their understanding.

Note, however, these Torah Observant believers in Yeshua/Jesus are scattered all around the WHOLE WORLD. Think John 3:16.

There are still many believers who have not heard and understood the DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE LAW.

Yeshua/Jesus says He will not return to earth until the LAST sheep is found. Is it you?

Psalms_119:176 I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.

Jeremiah 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.

Matthew_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Luke_15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Luke_15:6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.

It is my opinion based on deep Torah study that the day the last believer/lost sheep is found will be the day the rapture takes place.

It will be a day of rejoicing when THE FLOCK is together again.

Ezekiel 28:25 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall have gathered the house of Israel from the people among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified in them in the sight of the heathen, then shall they dwell in their land that I have given to my servant Jacob.

Blade · Jun 15, 2023

Lafftur said:

Have I ever wondered?

when have I ever stopped. This is the day the lord has made I will rejoice and be glad in it. Each day is new.. all new wonders! Praise God glory to JESUS! I don't think you were asking for answers to each but just "WONDER". Like the song playing "before there was time". Once you start to wonder... just beautiful.

Niki7 · Jun 15, 2023

Lafftur said:

Yeah. Plenty to wonder about for sure. However, we don't have to wonder about why God created the devil because
God did not create the devil.

Really. He did not.

God created the angel who became the devil but He did not create him as the devil.

44 You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. John 8:44

Those are the words of Jesus and they indicate that the devil did not 'stand fast in the truth' meaning he did not stay as he was created.

Seems we might wonder why he had the free will to do that but we cannot wonder why God created him evil because he did not create evil.

And God saw everything that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day Genesis 1:31 That, would indicate the devil was not created as the devil.

Then this happened:

You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit on the mount of assembly on the heights of Zaphon; will ascend to the tops of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High"

Isaiah 14: 13 & 14

Fundaamental · Jun 15, 2023

Niki7 said:

Yeah. Plenty to wonder about for sure. However, we don't have to wonder about why God created the devil because
God did not create the devil.

Really. He did not.

God created the angel who became the devil but He did not create him as the devil.

44 You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. John 8:44

Those are the words of Jesus and they indicate that the devil did not 'stand fast in the truth' meaning he did not stay as he was created.

Seems we might wonder why he had the free will to do that but we cannot wonder why God created him evil because he did not create evil.

And God saw everything that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day Genesis 1:31 That, would indicate the devil was not created as the devil.

Then this happened:

You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit on the mount of assembly on the heights of Zaphon; will ascend to the tops of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High"

Isaiah 14: 13 & 14

I have to give credit where credit is due.

I completely agree with this 🙂.

EricH · Jun 16, 2023

If Jesus died for us, does that mean he loves us as he loves himself?

listenyoumustAll · Jun 16, 2023

Lafftur said:

Romans 3:25(KJV) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
So my sister ,for the remission of sin there had to shedding of blood ..No blood is more glorious that the royal blood of God in his begotten Son . Jesus ,God with us . God in Man ..God made flesh . he had die because he is also the Priest and the Lamb a perfect offering . God is just and mighty.

listenyoumustAll · Jun 16, 2023

Lafftur said:

Genesis 1:5(KJV) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
So God exists in eternity .time is but a fraction in eternity. Glory to God he did get into Time through Jesus Christ in his perfect timing to die the prescribed death for the cleansing from sin once and for all . A believer is a spirit being like God because he lingers his hope upon that which is not seen ..

John146 · Jun 16, 2023

Lafftur said:

When Adam and Eve ate of the forbidden fruit, it corrupted their bodies turning their living water into blood. Our blood is corrupt. All of Adam’s blood line is corrupt. One had to come, not of Adam’s blood line, but with the sinless blood of God. The shedding of blood pictures getting rid of the what is corrupt from our bodies, making us sinless. As Jesus stated in the garden, it really was the only way.

listenyoumustAll · Jun 16, 2023

Lafftur said:

Genesis 2:9(KJV) And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. So this tree has to do with choices ,Adam and Eve in creature were not matured in mind yet to receive of that yet . they were toddlers in the knowledge of God to make righteous choices ,Satan also has knowledge of God,
Isaiah 14:12-13(KJV) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Glory to God Satan is brought to nothing .
Isaiah 14:15(KJV) Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

listenyoumustAll · Jun 16, 2023

Lafftur said:

concerning this two verses come to my mind
John 6:65(KJV) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
So let it be a base that Judas was not coincidental.
The story of the blind man born blind sheds light on tinted cases as I would call them ..
John 9:2-3(KJV) And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
Judas though he meanth it for evil ,God turned it for good .

listenyoumustAll · Jun 16, 2023

Lafftur said:

Psalms 95:1(KJV) O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation. Believing in Jesus as Lord and saviour is being saved . once . sanctification works its way outward.

listenyoumustAll · Jun 16, 2023

Lafftur said:

that's in scripture from Jesus himself my sister
Matthew 18:11-14(KJV) For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

listenyoumustAll · Jun 16, 2023

Lafftur said:

it is finished ,its finishing and will be finished .God bless you

Lafftur · Jun 16, 2023

Niki7 said:

Ever wonder about this verse....

Isaiah 45:6-8

King James Version

6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the Lord have created it.

Love has to have a choice... God had to place both good and evil, life and death, to eat the forbidden fruit or not to eat it in front of us so we could choose to love Him or not to love Him....

God wants us to CHOOSE to love Him so, He has to give us a choice....

I choose to LOVE GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and GOD the Holy Spirit!

Lafftur · Jun 17, 2023

listenyoumustAll said:

Amen!

Ever wonder how Love seeks to love and to be loved....

While we were sinners, the enemy of God.... Christ died for us. God is Love... God seeks us to love us and to be loved by us. He greatly desires us to know Him and to love Him and to receive His Love for us.

He's so beautiful, His Love is so beautiful...

Lafftur · Jun 17, 2023

listenyoumustAll said:

Christ died before the foundation of the world... God the Father had slained His Lamb before He created the world... Oh the depths of the love and wisdom of God... His Plan is flawless.... EVERYTHING is in order and will happen.... our part of His Plan is our "choices."

He sets Life and Death before us and tells us to CHOOSE LIFE. This is our part, to always choose Life. I choose Life!

Lafftur · Jun 17, 2023

John146 said:

Yes, I agree... Jesus Christ's Body and Blood was the only way to save us. It is the way God the Father chose to save us.

I love the justice of God... Eve was deceived by Satan in the serpent, she had believed his lie as truth and ate the forbidden fruit. Yet, Adam was not deceived but, ate also thus, allowing Satan to crush Adam's head and take dominion.

It was the Seed of the Woman that God would use to bring forth a New Adam that would crush the serpent's head and take back dominion, a dominion that has no end and can NEVER be taken away.

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